Fuzzy and Elph have taken over Netphoria

[MyOneAndOnly]

if you aunt was black would you call her "colored" because of your principles?

[MyOneAndOnly]

do you us the term "fag" too, because of your principles?

[Eulogy]

Holy shit

[Elphenor]

Hahahahaha

[Elphenor]

This is not a Democracy, this is a Republic where minority rights are protected. You do not get to vote on which sexual orientation gets rights

[SensibleChuckle]

Gold

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by Belteshazzar

We've considered reaching out to him, but I'm not sure how my dad would feel about it. Should I ever meet him, I'm not sure if I would call him Wayne or Jennifer. My principles would say call him Wayne, but my sympathy and pragmatism would say call him Jennifer, just to avoid conflict and giving him pain.

ever heard of something called respect?

your principals are not more important than somebody's life, personal freedom, choices for their body, or basic human dignity.

it really bothers me that anyone can think they know how a transgendered person feels.

you also said a lot of stuff that is illogical and im not going to argue with you but i think your biggest problem is that you think you know the "truth" when in a lot of instances there isn't even a "truth" to know.

of course gender is more than a penis or vagina. that is the entire point

[Sonic Johnny]

Originally Posted by Belteshazzar

d.) my beliefs on this stem from my religion and my understanding of the needs of children, not from hatred or phobia of homosexuals

Please explain to me how preventing gay people from access to visitation rights, next-of-kin status for emergency medical decisions, joint loan applications, domestic violence protection orders, joint tax filing, spousal bereavement leave, legal right to inheritance, spousal testimonial/confidentiality privileges, the capacity to prevent or authorise spousal postmortem organ donation, widows compensation payment, postmortem social security pension access and veterans widows pensions and compensations allowances, is meant to protect the needs of children, exactly?

[I'm Hardcore]

Originally Posted by reprise85

ever heard of something called respect?

your principals are not more important than somebody's life, personal freedom, choices for their body, or basic human dignity.

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by Belteshazzar

in political science class (if you ever take one), you learn that "democracy" is the common term to describe what is actually a "democratic republic," but that we are neither in fact a pure democracy or a pure republic.

and yeah, actually, we do get to do that. it's been going on for some time, elf.

I'm a political science major, buddy. I've taken a few classes.

Do you know what Civil Rights are?

[I'm Hardcore]

don't you know man, Civil Rights go out the window when it comes to the Ordained Way of things

[Sonic Johnny]

Originally Posted by Belteshazzar

you're lumping a lot of separate issues together as if they are all one issue. they are not. i see all of those as separate issues.

They're all one issue, it's called marriage equality. If we just let gay people get married they would have all of those things, which they do not currently have because all of those things are intrinsically tied to the status of legal marriage.

Now answer my question... how does depriving them of those things protect children? Where do children even come into this? Except for the ones who will grow up into gay adults?

[Elphenor]

Seriously dude, you have no idea what you're talking about and as someone who's really into this stuff it's like nails to a chalkboard

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by Belteshazzar

then they must have some whacked up political science classes in san diego. hardly surprising.

civil rights are rights given by law, not nature.

Behold. Google.

https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...hts+definition

"The Rights of Citizens to political and social equality"

[MyOneAndOnly]

Belt loves his ****** uncle that he's never met because principles and because social studies

[MyOneAndOnly]

why aren't more boarders here institutionalized?

[Sonic Johnny]

If the defense of your ideological standpoint is that people don't have a right to social equality, i'm pretty sure that makes you categorically an arsehole.

[I'm Hardcore]

only if it's a legal right, Sonic Johnny. and we all know who the law favours...

[MyOneAndOnly]

[Mals Marola]

i just heated some wings in a new toaster oven i bought to day then followed it up with a yoCRUNCH oreo yogurt and boy was that a delicious stay-at-home dinner i had tonight!

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by Belteshazzar

we don't have a "right" to "social equality" in the way i'm pretty sure you mean. but i'm sure they teach that in California.

Civil Rights are not unique to California you fucking moron

They come from the Constitution, I don't know how to explain this to you

[Elphenor]

King Jr. pointed at the Constitution when he demanded social equality and he was 100% correct that it grants it

Edit: Well at the Declaration of Independence where it pertains specifically to "All men are created equal" to not cause any confusion

[I'm Hardcore]

King Jr was a black man though

[Elphenor]

Basically Belte is saying that Jim Crow was totally legitimate because that's what the majority wanted and we shouldn't have any sort of protection against that.

[Order 66]

i want to be one with the dolphins

[I'm Hardcore]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

Basically Belte is saying that Jim Crow was totally legitimate because that's what the majority wanted and we shouldn't have any sort of protection against that.

that is precisely what he is saying, yes

[Elphenor]

Originally Posted by Belteshazzar

hey guys, if you believe it's possible to get an operation to change your gender, can i get an operation to change my race? or my species?

Nobody believes that.

It is however possible to change your Sex

[Elphenor]

Belte, you know there are homosexual animals right? Like it happens in nature, no choice involved whatsoever.

I don't know why you still think homosexuality is a choice for humans, it's super weird to me.

[I'm Hardcore]

because he is a straight, white male, who has absolutely no comprehension of anything.

[I'm Hardcore]

a monkey looking at a fucking spaceship, unable to comprehend what he sees