On a scale of 1 - 10 how would you rate hysteria about Islam in your country?

[ninsp]

Originally Posted by The exploding boy

Well i said i was out, i lied.

Clearly the whole reason why there are misogynists and men's rights activists (unfortunately it is kinda the same thing...) runs much deeper than just "because they're assholes", its a cultural and societal problem that needs to be addressed at its core but i find it useless to try to engage in a rational dialogue with people who are essentially angry trolls. They don't want to see the light. It's too late for them.

Also i have issues with some people like Sarkeesian but it's not in her message but more in the way she chooses to relay it though i don't really want to get into it because it would probably lead to misunderstanding (but it does imply a lack of self-awareness)

When it comes down to it anyway i don't have much faith in humanity and believe that women have probably already lost because i don't believe that enough men OR women are interested in deprogramming what is essentially thousands of years of conditioning. Gender role and expectations will, more or less anyway, keep on being what it's always been. That doesn't mean i don't want to fight it but it's surely a losing fight.


Also, I think its high time someone starts a misogyny/feminism/MRA/sexism thread because so many threads get sidetracked by the topic so in the future anytime a thread gets hijacked by this subject it can be cut and thrown into the apprpriate thread or something.... I blame trots though. He first mentioned it here. He dug that rabbit hole.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. My issues with Anita probably aren't too different from your, honestly.

[Order 66]

NO FEMS NO FATS

[Elphenor]

The term "white knight" is just replaced with "I'm an idiot" whenever I see it in someone's post

[The exploding boy]

i'll leave Trots to defend himself if he cares to but 1- i don't get the impression at all that he's mindlessly repeating other people's rhethoric or that his views on gender equality/sexism are self-serving (white knightism) and i wonder where ninsp got this idea 2- why bring his body weight into it? Especially after talking about being inclusive in the feminist cause.... The opinion of overweight people on the issue is invalid! And apparently all the same? Is it being brought up because the implication is that fat guys can't get laid so they resort to "fake feminism" to get girls interested?

[ninsp]

Originally Posted by The exploding boy

i'll leave Trots to defend himself if he cares to but 1- i don't get the impression at all that he's mindlessly repeating other people's rhethoric or that his views on gender equality/sexism are self-serving (white knightism) and i wonder where ninsp got this idea 2- why bring his body weight into it? Especially after talking about being inclusive in the feminist cause.... The opinion of overweight people on the issue is invalid! And apparently all the same? Is it being brought up because the implication is that fat guys can't get laid so they resort to "fake feminism" to get girls interested?

Because trots is just repeating what is all over Twitter. That bullying is OK as long as it's bullying misogynists. Fighting fire with fire never works.

Actually, no, I was just being a dick to trots.

I don't hold my standards on an online forum nicknamed "Hatephoria."

I probably shouldn't have bothered to get serious on here.

[Eulogy]

We all could have predicted the outcome so don't sweat it too much

[Trotskilicious]

i told you this thread got super dumb super quick

this is another guy that thinks i lead some kind of clique that decides who to hate. he's got neg rep back to 2009, obviously an offending idiot to a lot of people

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

The term "white knight" is just replaced with "I'm an idiot" whenever I see it in someone's post

I love it because what's the alternative, not agreeing with feminist thought at all? I mean the term itself disparages feminism and implies that men only want women to fuck. It's incredible, but since they don't say that out loud they just talk around the issue and try to make sure that the primary target is women and his anger and hatefulness towards them, probably stemming from personal issues and buying into rape culture. The echo chamber of stupid is impressive on the internet, and they really cling to this "I know you are but what am I?" defense, because yeah we're mean but we're smarter than you because their arguments literally don't make any sense and often justify feminist thought.

The other thing as there's plenty of neck bearded fedora wearing types doing the opposite of "white knighting." They buy into pick up artists and make creepy profiles about being nice guys on dating websites. I mean if you want to stereotype a group for being pathetic losers then you got your own black knights, the guys bitter about the fact that women don't like them because they can tell you're creeps and probably most important that you're dirty and you look at them like they're objects for sexual pleasure. You're right, I definitely want to appeal to smart women, but it's not an act. There are definitely ideas in the very broad philosophical family of feminism that I do not agree with.

He mentioned twitter, and the hypocrisy of repeating everything he says on twitter, because it shines hard in his posts he's got the full MRA douchebag talking point list. He's even butthurt that people disagree with him and act like he's persecuted for it.

It's gross, why bother posting here when the dominant personality of the board is against your asshole values, there's an MRA forum on reddit for you to cry in about injustice and persecution.

[Elphenor]

I think it's another result of this modern world where we're told to abandon all of our natural instincts in favor of sitting inside all day.

Sex is the ultimate primitive feeling and when men see women that instinct is triggered and this terrifies Mr. Neckbeard and as a result he hates women

[Trotskilicious]

i think it's mostly about one of two things 1) they're the kind of guys that are forever alone because they come off as creeps and weirdos and stalkers because they pretty much are and women are not receptive to that and then they watch her through binoculars or facebook stalking fall for some douchebag (which happens) and they get super jealous and butthurt because they are friendzoned niceguys. 2) They are genuine assholes who take what they want from women and coerce them into sex, and they think this is worthy of praise, the way the world works, and all women like it and they're just being professional victims by complaining about the status quo.

[Elphenor]

I also think this culture of basing male value around sex is to blame. The "Pick up artist" thing is totally a myth as far as I can see. Guys who get the most girls are just the most normal guys and as a result have the highest odds of appealing to both women and men in terms of friendships and relationships.

It has nothing to do with "Game" or whatever.

[Trotskilicious]

That's rape culture. Using women as objects to satisfy a competition of how much you get laid, and using any possible kind of cajoling, insistance, persistance. PUAs are rape culture in action, and the worst thing about it is that it does work.

[Elphenor]

Does it?

I mean, if you hit on every woman you see that's going to increase your odds I guess, but I just feel like most relationships or sexual experiences happen naturally as a result of being around people who are similar to you and not from basically men tricking women into having sex with them.

[Elphenor]

Like a lot of guys think they don't get laid because they're "bad at talking to women" or "they have no game" when I think it's more of a result of them trying to pick up girls that they don't have anything in common with.

[Elphenor]

If you're a gothy dude like me and you try to hit on girls in a "club" it doesn't work out because you're creepy to them. But if you go to a punk concert girls will even start conversations with you because you're cool to them

[Mooney]

i pick up chicks by coming off as a decent guy because i am a lonely, caring, genuine, sad sack of shit.

[Trotskilicious]

fucking white knight faggot

[Mooney]

just got to play it cool until having sex is their idea. i've never had a one night stand because of this - they've always came back for seconds. mind you being a douchbag would still yield exponentially better results.

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by The exploding boy

Well i said i was out, i lied.

Clearly the whole reason why there are misogynists and men's rights activists (unfortunately it is kinda the same thing...) runs much deeper than just "because they're assholes", its a cultural and societal problem that needs to be addressed at its core but i find it useless to try to engage in a rational dialogue with people who are essentially angry trolls. They don't want to see the light. It's too late for them.

Also i have issues with some people like Sarkeesian but it's not in her message but more in the way she chooses to relay it though i don't really want to get into it because it would probably lead to misunderstanding (but it does imply a lack of self-awareness)

When it comes down to it anyway i don't have much faith in humanity and believe that women have probably already lost because i don't believe that enough men OR women are interested in deprogramming what is essentially thousands of years of conditioning. Gender role and expectations will, more or less anyway, keep on being what it's always been. That doesn't mean i don't want to fight it but it's surely a losing fight.


Also, I think its high time someone starts a misogyny/feminism/MRA/sexism thread because so many threads get sidetracked by the topic so in the future anytime a thread gets hijacked by this subject it can be cut and thrown into the apprpriate thread or something.... I blame trots though. He first mentioned it here. He dug that rabbit hole.

Truth of life #24:

Feminism was established to allow unattractive woman easier access to the mainstream of power.

[The Omega Concern]

Oh, and...would love to see how y'all would do in a Sharia Law community.

But if your comfortable in reducing any and all alarmist as hysterical about the Camel's nose under the tent, then go ahead and get your prayer rug.

[The exploding boy]

Originally Posted by Elphenor

when I think it's more of a result of them trying to pick up girls that they don't have anything in common with.

this so much

[Trotskilicious]

the omega concern everyone, it's not even thinly disguised anymore

[reprise85]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

Truth of life #24:

Feminism was established to allow unattractive woman easier access to the mainstream of power.

fuck you

[Mooney]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

Feminism was established to allow unattractive woman easier access to the mainstream of power.

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

Feminism was established to allow unattractive woman easier access to the mainstream of power.

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

Feminism was established to allow unattractive woman easier access to the mainstream of power.

.

[Trotskilicious]

i'm amaze but not surprise wow

[Elphenor]

Probably the most offensive thing I've read on this board

[Trotskilicious]

i'm sure it was a hilarious joke

[The exploding boy]

you people are so brainwashed.


Anyway Id have thought someone like TOC was very aware that most female if not all female politicians in history were actually men who had a sex change operations. It's a common practice within the cabal when it's deemed a woman might be more desired in a position of power for various reasons.

[Trotskilicious]

that's definitely the kind of thing satan is into

[hnibos]

What a nice and upstanding gentleman toc is.