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null123 · 10-18-2014, 07:38 PM

Fashion designers dressed and facilitated the creation of the Sex Pistols. John Lydon was a regular customer at VW+McLaren's store (which had been around since '71) before ever singing a note. Did VW+McLaren single-handedly invent the punk aesthetic? No but they were influential contributors to the visual culture which really wasn't a revolutionary thing anyway, this whole sex dungeon aesthetic has been a thing with bored bourgeoisies for a minute now, and then there are the bikers and skinheads and teddy boys and so forth who preceded all this. Designers had as much to do with the scene as any angry teens.

Trotskilicious · 10-18-2014, 07:52 PM

And either way, why are chain wallet grungebabies always worried about fahion being a bad thing?

null123 · 10-18-2014, 08:29 PM

Fashion is for republicans and women

Elphenor · 10-18-2014, 08:48 PM

I prefer post-punk fashion.

Elphenor · 10-18-2014, 08:49 PM

As in, almost none whatsoever

Elphenor · 10-18-2014, 08:53 PM

My point about designers was that, yes, they had a big influence on the punk fashion once it started to be a mainstream thing, but originally designers like Westwood were obsessed with and influenced by the low income fashion trends that arose organically.

They then shaped it into different directions and exaggerated certain parts of it such as the safety pins and the sex dungeon thing

Trotskilicious · 10-18-2014, 09:12 PM

What is a 'real chain'

Elphenor · 10-18-2014, 09:12 PM

I was pretty grunge when I was 16, but not grunge enough for a chain wallet

Trotskilicious · 10-19-2014, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elphenor

I was pretty grunge when I was 16, but not grunge enough for a chain wallet

you realize i went to high school in 1996, right? i mean goddamn you were rocking that shit in 2005? fucking lame man

Elphenor · 10-19-2014, 01:31 AM

I really, really liked Nirvana and The Pumpkins and Radiohead. I even played in a grunge band.

I'm pretty embarrassed by it now, but whatever

Elphenor · 10-19-2014, 01:32 AM

I wore Flannel

Trotskilicious · 10-19-2014, 01:32 AM

they do and did make chain wallets and sold them at journeys or whatever the other one was

the real punk rock shit to do was to find chain and make it yourself, which is what i did

i still don't get what was so fucking amusing to you about a dog chain. i used one too. That was pretty much which kind you used for the most part, big link ones were not favored. or whatever the hell a real chain is. what are chains for dogs not real chains? do they have not enough of the undefinable quality of being a chain for you?

null123 · 10-19-2014, 01:33 AM

In 98 I had elementary school classmates who wore chain wallets and bowl cuts and super baggy jeans and vans
I even sported jncos myself

Trotskilicious · 10-19-2014, 01:34 AM

jincos are korn tho, that's post grunge

Trotskilicious · 10-19-2014, 01:34 AM

i think? maybe i'm crazy

Elphenor · 10-19-2014, 01:34 AM

When I was in High School I wore Superhero shirts everyday pretty much and flannel

null123 · 10-19-2014, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elphenor

I really, really liked Nirvana and The Pumpkins and Radiohead. I even played in a grunge band.

I'm pretty embarrassed by it now, but whatever

Much like how you will feel about your current phase in as little as 3 years

null123 · 10-19-2014, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

jincos are korn tho, that's post grunge

Right but so is 1998 in general, I was more commenting on 90s fashion
Are chain wallets really "grunge" that seems postgrunge too

Elphenor · 10-19-2014, 01:36 AM

It's possible

Trotskilicious · 10-19-2014, 02:06 AM

when i got to high school in 94 they were already very popular

Trotskilicious · 10-19-2014, 02:06 AM

i mean that's when i got mine #hip

Trotskilicious · 10-19-2014, 02:20 AM

you're like a little child

The exploding boy · 10-20-2014, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charmbag

Much like how you will feel about your current phase in as little as 3 years

I don't know. i'm pretty sure everyone should be embarrassed about having been into grunge. I know i am. But Post punk has endured.

Elphenor · 10-20-2014, 08:54 PM

I don't think I ever really liked Grunge so much as I liked Nirvana

I stand by them being the real deal

fuzzyroes · 10-21-2014, 04:55 AM

Original Alice in Chains has still help up pretty well

fuzzyroes · 10-21-2014, 04:57 AM

Elphenor · 10-21-2014, 05:08 AM

No it absolutely does not. Alice was shit from the very beginning

fuzzyroes · 10-21-2014, 05:12 AM

Come on man. This songs fucking great.

Go listen to being beige

fuzzyroes · 10-21-2014, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elphenor

No it absolutely does not. Alice was shit from the very beginning

You gave Being beige a 5/10 yet say AIC is shit?

Elphenor · 10-21-2014, 05:29 AM

Well I mean they're both shit

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10-18-2014, 07:38 PM	#301
null123 Minion of Satan Location: bye Posts: 7,274	Fashion designers dressed and facilitated the creation of the Sex Pistols. John Lydon was a regular customer at VW+McLaren's store (which had been around since '71) before ever singing a note. Did VW+McLaren single-handedly invent the punk aesthetic? No but they were influential contributors to the visual culture which really wasn't a revolutionary thing anyway, this whole sex dungeon aesthetic has been a thing with bored bourgeoisies for a minute now, and then there are the bikers and skinheads and teddy boys and so forth who preceded all this. Designers had as much to do with the scene as any angry teens.

10-18-2014, 07:52 PM	#302
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	And either way, why are chain wallet grungebabies always worried about fahion being a bad thing?

10-18-2014, 08:29 PM	#303
null123 Minion of Satan Location: bye Posts: 7,274	Fashion is for republicans and women

10-18-2014, 08:48 PM	#304
Elphenor Braindead Location: Shivers Posts: 16,139	I prefer post-punk fashion.

10-18-2014, 08:49 PM	#305
Elphenor Braindead Location: Shivers Posts: 16,139	As in, almost none whatsoever

10-18-2014, 08:53 PM	#306
Elphenor Braindead Location: Shivers Posts: 16,139	My point about designers was that, yes, they had a big influence on the punk fashion once it started to be a mainstream thing, but originally designers like Westwood were obsessed with and influenced by the low income fashion trends that arose organically. They then shaped it into different directions and exaggerated certain parts of it such as the safety pins and the sex dungeon thing

10-18-2014, 09:12 PM	#307
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	What is a 'real chain'

10-18-2014, 09:12 PM	#308
Elphenor Braindead Location: Shivers Posts: 16,139	I was pretty grunge when I was 16, but not grunge enough for a chain wallet

10-19-2014, 01:31 AM	#310
Elphenor Braindead Location: Shivers Posts: 16,139	I really, really liked Nirvana and The Pumpkins and Radiohead. I even played in a grunge band. I'm pretty embarrassed by it now, but whatever

10-19-2014, 01:32 AM	#311
Elphenor Braindead Location: Shivers Posts: 16,139	I wore Flannel

10-19-2014, 01:32 AM	#312
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	they do and did make chain wallets and sold them at journeys or whatever the other one was the real punk rock shit to do was to find chain and make it yourself, which is what i did i still don't get what was so fucking amusing to you about a dog chain. i used one too. That was pretty much which kind you used for the most part, big link ones were not favored. or whatever the hell a real chain is. what are chains for dogs not real chains? do they have not enough of the undefinable quality of being a chain for you?

10-19-2014, 01:33 AM	#313
null123 Minion of Satan Location: bye Posts: 7,274	In 98 I had elementary school classmates who wore chain wallets and bowl cuts and super baggy jeans and vans I even sported jncos myself

10-19-2014, 01:34 AM	#314
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	jincos are korn tho, that's post grunge

10-19-2014, 01:34 AM	#315
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	i think? maybe i'm crazy

10-19-2014, 01:34 AM	#316
Elphenor Braindead Location: Shivers Posts: 16,139	When I was in High School I wore Superhero shirts everyday pretty much and flannel

10-19-2014, 01:36 AM	#319
Elphenor Braindead Location: Shivers Posts: 16,139	It's possible

10-19-2014, 02:06 AM	#320
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	when i got to high school in 94 they were already very popular

10-19-2014, 02:06 AM	#321
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	i mean that's when i got mine #hip

10-19-2014, 02:20 AM	#322
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	you're like a little child

10-20-2014, 08:54 PM	#324
Elphenor Braindead Location: Shivers Posts: 16,139	I don't think I ever really liked Grunge so much as I liked Nirvana I stand by them being the real deal

10-21-2014, 04:55 AM	#325
fuzzyroes Banned Posts: 21,216	Original Alice in Chains has still help up pretty well

10-21-2014, 04:57 AM	#326
fuzzyroes Banned Posts: 21,216

10-21-2014, 05:08 AM	#327
Elphenor Braindead Location: Shivers Posts: 16,139	No it absolutely does not. Alice was shit from the very beginning

10-21-2014, 05:12 AM	#328
fuzzyroes Banned Posts: 21,216	Come on man. This songs fucking great. Go listen to being beige

10-21-2014, 05:29 AM	#330
Elphenor Braindead Location: Shivers Posts: 16,139	Well I mean they're both shit