How do you feel about tipping when you get poor service?

[jczeroman]

Originally Posted by Bread Regal

You do have a point. Wage disparity doesn't start to become a real concern until people starve to death. Until a society reaches that point, the social effects of low wages are negligible, at best.

Before this gets too far away from the original point of the comment (if it hasn't already) - I brought up the German example not to talk about minimum wages themselves or income inequality, but to note that tipping need not be seen in the context of augmenting the minimum wage. I imagine that many people in the US tip because it is expected socially.

I don't think that Americans are more aware of the plight of the low-wage worker than Germans and while many would say they are tipping for a humanitarian reason (an ultimately self-serving comment which immediately confers status on the person that says it by defining a hierarchy and a client/patron relationship) while really they tip because there would be severe social shaming if they did not and got caught.

[Trotskilicious]

Not my chair not my problem thats what i say

[Bread Regal]

I'm feeling more dread by the minute as I sit here with my hands on the keyboard, knowing the shitfest this thread will turn into.

So I will abstain from responding directly. Good day sir.

[killtrocity]

The person tipping the server does not define the hierarchy. The employer does that by paying the server $2.13 per hour.

[Trotskilicious]

jc do you think humankind can function without hierarchies?

[Elphenor]

I tip really well pretty much always even though I'm poor. But I don't eat out much.

The whole server thing actually makes me kind of uncomfortable. I don't like it.

[jczeroman]

Originally Posted by Bread Regal

I'm feeling more dread by the minute as I sit here with my hands on the keyboard, knowing the shitfest this thread will turn into.

So I will abstain from responding directly. Good day sir.

Yea, feeling's mutual.

[jczeroman]

Originally Posted by killtrocity

The person tipping the server does not define the hierarchy. The employer does that by paying the server $2.13 per hour.

The employer is unquestionably at fault for the economic hierarchy.

What I am talking about is the status distinction that comes from a person making sure to let everyone know that they are lifting the under-classes out of poverty. It automatically confers the social position of a patron on the tipper and the worker as a client.

[jczeroman]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

jc do you think humankind can function without hierarchies?

I think hierarchy has been inescapable. Perhaps it helped our ancestors survive. Whether it is still needed is another question. I don't want to say that human societies can remove hierarchy, but I do think it should be minimized and avoided wherever possible.

[null123]

<3 hierarchies

[Eulogy]

Oh my goddddddd

[null123]

C-bag and Yuli G in the house

[slunken]

[yo soy el mejor]

juli

hooli

[yo soy el mejor]

we text each other about three times a year. i love him so. miss him dearly. my mom liked that one time he made the outgoing message on my machine. she said it made it sound like a boy lived with me. like boys have magical bodies that block bullets and shit.

[butthurt]

See me
Feel me
Tip me
Heal me

[yo soy el mejor]

here is your food

gimme money

[yo soy el mejor]

you're here a lot, rach

<3

[Future Boy]

Originally Posted by slunken

was this the result of a quick google search

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by juliana

When I went to cuba, my friend tipped the cab driver a quarter I was so mortified, the guy just laughed at her. She really thought she was giving him some big money. I paid him a proper tip when she left the vehicle.

Whaaaaaaaat. Do you guys tip Cab drivers as you would a waiter? Sometimes I'm smashed and can barely afford to pay the fare to get home and won't even tip the guy at all. I figure that the long, pricey fare is satisfying enough for the guy. I normally at least give em a couple bucks though.