Mexican food is all the same thing

[The exploding boy]

Well feel free to judge my culture on poutine.

[The exploding boy]

my cultures food I meant

Originally Posted by juliana

What are you talking about? We are talking about people JUDGING an entire cultures food based on taco bell and a few restos in their neighbourhood. That is fucking disrespectful.

That's what I was talking about I'm pretty sure. There's like a dozen portuguese restaurants just around the corner , ive eaten to most of them (so thats "a few restos in the neighborhood"). When I rate Portuguese cuisine (meaning "judging an entire cultures food"), I rate it based on my experience of it in north America, in quebec, more specifically in montreal. If I say I love/hate portuguese cuisine (that would definitely be love), or even if I made a reducing statement like "it's kinda all chicken, sausage or fish right?" I am aware I might no know all of portuguese cusine, or maybe not REAL portuguese cuisine (though I'd doubt that considering most immigrants here I see are first generation), or that I've not experienced cuisine from all portuguese regions but so fucking what? I'm judging it on what I have experienced. I'm sorry I didn't go to Lisbon, Faro and Coimbra to appropriately rate portuguese cuisine from north to south of the country.


I was joking about the poutine but I see no problem with people reducing quebecois cuisine to statements like "you kinda put maple syrup in everything don't you?" Or "it's kinda all pork isn't it?" It's not entirely true, but it's not entirely false either. Like I'd like to see an indian try to defy the notion that "you kinda put curry in everything don't you?" They don't. But then again...they kinda do too. Or an Italian object to "you kinda have tomato sauce in everything right?"

[juliana]

Tomato sauce is one is a southern italian thing. There are a lot of southern italians in north america.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream

maybe these indians in these indian restaurants all come from the same region?
or is there an americanised version of indian food (like they have "indian" in england)? maybe they've adjusted their cooking to what they believe the people are expecting.

I believe most dishes served in Indian restaurants in the US were invented in England. However, I am a prodigious consumer of Indian food, and there is a lot of diversity between restaurants. Most Indian restaurants are based on north Indian cuisine, but other than a few staples like tikka masala it's not like chinese food where basically every joint has the same stuff.


also scotty is a fucking moron if he doesn't like both american chinese and indian food

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

mexican food creates lots of dishes from a short list of ingredients, but that's what makes it brilliant and cheap

Originally Posted by The exploding boy

Same thing with indian food.

dude no it's not. I can let a lot of shit go but not the public disparaging of indian food. Have you actually ever been to an Indian restaurant? All the dishes have a hundred different spices in them

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

also scotty is a fucking moron if he doesn't like both american chinese and indian food

forgive me for not enjoying Panda Express and fake indian food from shitty restaurants that all buy their sauces from Sysco.

Of course there are great chinese and indian restaurants out there but the majority of them in the USA are terrible. Like eating at Fazoli's and calling it Italian or buying "sushi" at Kroger and pretending you're eating real Japanese food.

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

dude no it's not. I can let a lot of shit go but not the public disparaging of indian food. Have you actually ever been to an Indian restaurant? All the dishes have a hundred different spices in them

yeah, authentic restaurants are cooking from scratch, but most of the indian and chinese restaurants in the USA buy their sauces and seasonings premade. That's why so much of it all tastes the same.

[redbreegull]

where the fuck do you live that you have indian restaurants of the quality of panda express? all the places anywhere around here are family owned

[redbreegull]

and I have eaten at many, many indian restaurants.

[redbreegull]

I mean the only time I have ever had indian food of the quality of a standard chinese place is if you go to the cruddiest hole in the wall for the afternoon buffet.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

forgive me for not enjoying Panda Express and fake indian food from shitty restaurants that all buy their sauces from Sysco.

Of course there are great chinese and indian restaurants out there but the majority of them in the USA are terrible. Like eating at Fazoli's and calling it Italian or buying "sushi" at Kroger and pretending you're eating real Japanese food.

ah i just want to mention that pretty much anything you get in this country is probably not authentic

i mean one of my favorite items in sushi is the california roll. which has fucking avocado in it. i mean if that's not Americanized i dunno what is, but it still goo

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by The exploding boy

You're just jealous cause I'm threatening your status as most miserable on forum.

well i mean i was doing the sad sack larry davis comedy sad and you're like holy shit man go see a fucking therapist already

[MyOneAndOnly]

"where the fuck do you live that you have indian restaurants of the quality of panda express? all the places anywhere around here are family owned"

most shitty non chain restaurants are family owned. it doesn't mean that they're not buying their shit premade.

And just because you live in a neighborhood that drips authenticity doesn't mean the rest of North America does.

RBG, 100% authentic food hipster!

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

ah i just want to mention that pretty much anything you get in this country is probably not authentic

i mean one of my favorite items in sushi is the california roll. which has fucking avocado in it. i mean if that's not Americanized i dunno what is, but it still goo

yeah, authentic and fresh/scratch made are two different things.

[Trotskilicious]

honestly when it comes to the many regional varieties of mexican food both in its native land and here in the states, "authentic" is a word i don't really get

i mean ultimately i want the clientele to be predominantly mexican/hispanic/latino/not white, that's when i know i'm in the right place. then i judge the food on its merits.

when i walk into a mexican restaruant full of white people i just know i'm getting velveeta enchiladas in flour tortillas

[hnibos]

Flour tortillas are good =/ but I'm Honduran.

[Trotskilicious]

i love them, honestly i always get them with tacos. even though i like corn

but there's something heretical about enchiladas with flour tortillas

[MyOneAndOnly]

flour enchiladas are terrible. flour torts get too soggy if they're cooked or served under sauce.

the one thing i absolutely hate is what most of the country calls a bagel today. Even my favorite deli is now making them too big and too soft. It's like eating a stale bun with a hole in the middle. Don't get me started on whipped, runny cream cheese.

disgusting

[Trotskilicious]

our grocery chain HEB had some trully horrible bagels that were pretty much dinner rolls with a hole in them

they stepped their game up recently, they aren't as good as einstein bros but they are pretty chewy now

[The exploding boy]

That most bagels anywhere. I mean the dinner rolls thing.

Thankfully outside of new York montreal is probably the best place to find authentic bagels in north America. That being said, even when it's real bagels right out of the ovens, meh. I don't get the big deal with bagels.

[MyOneAndOnly]

HEB is a pretty good chain. I like their Central Market stores.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

flour enchiladas are terrible. flour torts get too soggy if they're cooked or served under sauce.

there's that but it's also just kind of wrong as far as a flavor profile goes...it's just wrong

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

HEB is a pretty good chain. I like their Central Market stores.

it's come a long way but fuck that boozhy central market bullshit

but they love them spurs



(go spurs)

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

"where the fuck do you live that you have indian restaurants of the quality of panda express? all the places anywhere around here are family owned"

most shitty non chain restaurants are family owned. it doesn't mean that they're not buying their shit premade.

And just because you live in a neighborhood that drips authenticity doesn't mean the rest of North America does.

RBG, 100% authentic food hipster!

I might buy this if you were talking about chinese only because many chinese restaurants do in fact offer similar fare and most of it is equally bland and soaked in MSG. Perhaps it's a benefit of living in a city and not some hinterland, but indian restaurants vary far, far more than chinese places in general. sure there are some indian places that suck, but there's hardly enough similarity between most of them to claim "most of the indian... restaurants in the USA buy their sauces and seasonings premade. That's why so much of it all tastes the same."

I guess it wouldn't surprise me though if you were making this judgement based an a few dried out shitty buffets owned by white people that only serve the five most popular "indian" foods

[juliana]

Where I live chinese food is diverse and amazing. There are also different types of restaurants that serve specialties or from certain regions.

[redbreegull]

lucky, most of the places around here are very bland clones of each other. There's one place I am really partial to but it's all the way in baltimore

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by juliana

Where I live chinese food is diverse and amazing. There are also different types of restaurants that serve specialties or from certain regions.

I've had good indian food in Ontario too.

also you have a fascist mayor who smokes crack and calls for motorists to hit cyclists with their cars.

[Trotskilicious]

pale princess was telling me how diverse the toronto food culture is

course their MEXICAN food sucks and they don't have WHATABURGER

[Order 66]

when i was a kid i thought it was "waterburger"

[MyOneAndOnly]

couple years ago I got a bit lost out in one of the Toronto suburbs. I pulled into the parking lot of a taco bell to check my GPS and realized that it was packed with Indian teenagers. It seemed really strange to me that Indians living in Toronto would hang out at a Mexican restaurant run by an american company.