would you vote for somebody who doesn't believe in god?

[Starla]

Originally Posted by FutureBoy

probably all that Jew in him

FB what is your nationality and religious beliefs?

[Future Boy]

american, i worship money

[Future Boy]

some might say Im a mexican catholic, but really what do they know

[Starla]

I like Catholics...

[Future Boy]

of course, we're awesome

[Future Boy]

is probably what a catholic would say, but really what do they know

[Trotskilicious]

nothing but guilt

[killtrocity]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

I was very firmly of this belief but there are recent studies of mitochondrial DNA that have traced the majority of Ashkenazi Jews back to a single group that was expelled from the Israel area when the Romans tore that shit up. Obviously very intermingled with Europeans at this point, but there is scientific evidence for a common ancestry, which is basically what we see as race anyway

google "epigenetics"

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by killtrocity

google "epigenetics"

sorry I'm not good enough with biology to really understand even the wiki on that beyond the fact that it has to do with inheritable traits not caused by changes in DNA. I see how this can apply to groups or populations of human beings but couldn't find anything specifically about race. what are you getting at?

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

I was very firmly of this belief but there are recent studies of mitochondrial DNA that have traced the majority of Ashkenazi Jews back to a single group that was expelled from the Israel area when the Romans tore that shit up. Obviously very intermingled with Europeans at this point, but there is scientific evidence for a common ancestry, which is basically what we see as race anyway

In this thread a jew argues that jews are their own race because science

[MyOneAndOnly]

Mitochondrial DNA only traces DNA passed through the mother. What about the father? For that matter, we're all African if you go back far enough. Keep going back and we're all reptilian

[Future Boy]

whats after that

[Trotskilicious]

why are these motherfuckers talking about midichloreans

[Future Boy]

starwars marathon on spike

[Starla]

ain't nobody got time for that

[Trotskilicious]

I GOT BRONCHITIS

[slunken]

JESUS CHRIST

[yo soy el mejor]

CHEESE AND RICE

[slunken]

EULOGY FUCK

[yo soy el mejor]

ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE ME VOMIT?

[slunken]

SMOOCHY

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

Mitochondrial DNA only traces DNA passed through the mother. What about the father? For that matter, we're all African if you go back far enough. Keep going back and we're all reptilian

I'm not sure what your point is. That there is no biological basis for race? We all know that already except for Nimrod's Son.

What we see as race is basically what could be described as the "boy/girl marries boy/girl next door effect." Because people only really reproduced with others with very close geographic origin to themselves until very recently in history, most people in any given part of the world have stronger "familial" ties to other people in that part of the world than elsewhere. This is what our brains process as "race." It's essentially just family resemblance. When you look at overall genetic diversity on Earth, there is more diversity within any given population or "race" than there is between what we see as races, which is why the concept cannot be quantified scientifically. But those few phenotypes which our brains have been trained to see so prominently do convey to us the general closeness of ancestry between different people although obviously it is very possible to be wrong if want to make those kinds of guesses. Native Australians and New Zealanders are more closely related to white Europeans than to black Africans.

but none of this has anything to do with what I was actually saying, which was just that most European Jews have direct ancestry from a single line of people. I don't see why it matters that mitochondrial DNA is passed by maternity unless you are arguing I am wrong because women don't count as people. This "familial" closeness of European Jews is just as legitimate a basis for race as any other.

[Trotskilicious]

Juropean Eews

[Order 66]

alot of people try and get all philosophical and saynwe came from DNA or whatever. i do believe that, but at the same time i think it came from adam and eve