Obama is a fucking idiot

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

It's there with the Nazi party because that's what they named it. AND STASI started in 1950 while the KBG started in 1954.


SO HOW THE FUCK COULD THE STASI BE MODELED ON THE KGB!!!

so what exactly is the difference between the NKVD and the KGB omega concern


edit: can't be fucked with this shit in the middle of the night, the KGB was the new moniker given to the GUGB division of the NKVD, existing since the 1920s. omega concern is a fucking moron.

[reprise85]

omega concern learn how to use apostrophes jesus christ

[Trotskilicious]

proof that anyone can use wikipedia and still not know what the fuck they are talking about

[Trotskilicious]

also i'd like to point out

[null123]

Originally Posted by Future Boy

why were you going to start a separate one

those are good things though

[Trotskilicious]

charmfuck strikes again

[Trotskilicious]

i know you guys think it's hilarious to subvert western culture by supporting brutal dictatorships but it's kind of...well, dumb.

[Order 66]

you sir are an moran

[null123]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

i know you guys think it's hilarious to subvert western culture by supporting brutal dictatorships but it's kind of...well, dumb.

not all communists are trots :)

[Starla]

I dunno how to explain this to you trots, but even I believed the official WMD story..... as did a lot of people that I know. As I mentioned previously, my cousin reacted to 9/11 .... ran out and enlisted himself into the marines. I think a lot of people believed that going into Iraq was the right thing at the time.

As for this whole ordeal being a nobama thing... I agree that there are plenty of nobama people, however, with the majority of Americans being against a strike in Syria, I don't see how all of them can be nobama types.

[Starla]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

also i'd like to point out

yeah... just because Putin is saying a few things that make sense lately, let's not forget his shitty past and what he's doing now. He's not a good guy.

[Starla]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

and to think just a few years ago, john couldn't even turn a computer on

Some kind soul showed him how to run a cell phone :]

[Starla]

the giants suck

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Charmbag

not all communists are trots

oh i know, for example i don't think cuba could be described as "brutal," other than being a hereditary dictatorship (apparently) it seems like it's fairly well run and economically stagnant primarily because of pointless embargos. however, unlike PRK, vast swaths of the populace don't die of starvation and undernourishment and they don't invest what little they have on building missiles and having big parades.

but the soviet union did terrible, terrible things. I will grant that post-stalin they did a lot of backtracking and apologizing. it also was more "free" than people think, i studied russia and the USSR and there's a pretty great tradition of comedy and Krokodil was a widely circulated satirical newspaper that didn't spare the Party at all. But it was also hugely corrupt and essentially replaced the inefficient, entitled Tsarist bureaucracy with one that was functionally identical. The principle of "freedom" is ill-defined and a ludicrous base of comparison, as well as the fact as the United States did a bang up job at silencing, censoring, and destroying communist speech. Eugene V. Debs is one of my historical favorites.

fact is you have to have consensus about an economic system in order for it to work, so both capitalist and communist countries have to be censorious about economic dissent

east germany was a bit of a dystopian, orwellian nightmare, but granted most of what i know about it was the symbolism of east berlin.

mayfuck loves to bump north korea which i think is absolutely deplorable.

[duovamp]

Why are Netphorians still arguing with this troll? You people genuinely do not learn, do you?

[Trotskilicious]

are you talking about charms or TOC

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Starla

the giants suck

the hell you say! wait

which giants are you talking about

[duovamp]

Well... TOC, but I mean...

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by Charmbag

not all communists are trots

the only communists who aren't are the ones that live in Liberal Democracies, get most of their spending money from their parents

[MyOneAndOnly]

When I ran the UofM chapter of the Democratic Socialists of America the Spartacist League crazies used to occassionally give me shit. The most common thing was to start yelling at me in public that I had killed Trotsky (usually when I "invaded" their favorite cappuccino establishment)

.... because every social democrat is a sell out and personally responsible somehow for the death of their Martyr. Like the jews are for murdering Jesus.

[MyOneAndOnly]

"Stalinist capitulator!"

[Order 66]

you, sir, are and idiot

[Trotskilicious]

mmm, that's goooood soup

[null123]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

oh i know, for example i don't think cuba could be described as "brutal," other than being a hereditary dictatorship (apparently) it seems like it's fairly well run and economically stagnant primarily because of pointless embargos. however, unlike PRK, vast swaths of the populace don't die of starvation and undernourishment and they don't invest what little they have on building missiles and having big parades.

but the soviet union did terrible, terrible things. I will grant that post-stalin they did a lot of backtracking and apologizing. it also was more "free" than people think, i studied russia and the USSR and there's a pretty great tradition of comedy and Krokodil was a widely circulated satirical newspaper that didn't spare the Party at all. But it was also hugely corrupt and essentially replaced the inefficient, entitled Tsarist bureaucracy with one that was functionally identical. The principle of "freedom" is ill-defined and a ludicrous base of comparison, as well as the fact as the United States did a bang up job at silencing, censoring, and destroying communist speech. Eugene V. Debs is one of my historical favorites.

fact is you have to have consensus about an economic system in order for it to work, so both capitalist and communist countries have to be censorious about economic dissent

east germany was a bit of a dystopian, orwellian nightmare, but granted most of what i know about it was the symbolism of east berlin.

mayfuck loves to bump north korea which i think is absolutely deplorable.

i disagree with pretty much everything you've written here

but i hope we can all continue to board in peace

[duovamp]

Just fucking die.

[duovamp]

<3

[duovamp]

Over.

[null123]

trotsky have you ever read the book Is the Red Flag Flying? I just got it in the mail I'm gonna start it soon

[Starla]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

the hell you say! wait

which giants are you talking about

baseball

[Trotskilicious]

carry on then