Obama is a fucking idiot

[null123]

usa soldiers are bad but usa is good

[Starla]

duhhh I think it be better if we get assad out of power and put crazy muslim brotherhood in to run country!! Obama knows what he is doing trust him. Let's take over nothr country beforee they build a big bomb that kills us all!

[Starla]

How am I doing so far? I bet I'm finally making some sense here!!

[Starla]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

LOL @ Starla & TOC arguing

toc and I have a special relationship...

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Mayfuck

I hate that kind of smarmy liberal attitude too. The army recruits a lot of working class people, many of them people of color.

you're right, i was out of line

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by Starla

wtf? what are you even talking about? I can't deal with this today TOC. You should be listening to the hearings.

Gotta have all angles covered. I guess my ultimate point is how much is Obama really in control here? This Megiddo war plan is a biblical regurgitated one being played out once again and the psychopathic satanic control freaks pushing for it may as well be space aliens.


That said, the Pentagon apparently did stand down and in the 24 to 48 between John Kerry's impassioned speech and Obama saying he'll have a vote in congress, the Generals got to the Prez and told him to cool his jets, and he did. The delay is not helping the cause for war which unfortunately raises the risk of further false flags to sway opinion. The western anglophile banking cabal is cornered, but it just makes them more dangerous.

[Starla]

well hell, it seems like they want this more than Obama does... and I'm not really a Rand Paul fan... but you know shit is bad when he's the only one in the room making any sense, vs "omg mushroom cloud over the united states some day if we don't do this!!"

[null123]

well said

[Order 66]

i wish obama had that candidness about him. but i'm at the same time glad obama doesn't have a receding hairline and is lankier

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by Starla

toc and I have a special relationship...

That's horrifying

[The Omega Concern]

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by Starla

well hell, it seems like they want this more than Obama does... and I'm not really a Rand Paul fan... but you know shit is bad when he's the only one in the room making any sense, vs "omg mushroom cloud over the united states some day if we don't do this!!"

I think Rand was first, then Ron, then Pat Buchanan.


Today, it was Rush Limbaugh that alleged False Flag. He openly speculated today that Obama provoked the chemical attacks in Syria.


O.K. Rush.


What about 9/11? How 'bout Mineta's testimony that shows Cheney running a show from the white house bunker? If conservatives are gonna go down this path with Obama, they gotta go back a bit more to the previous administration to know the whole score. but I digress...

[Future Boy]

still not sure why you keep thinking this Cheney and the bunker thing is some unreported secret when Cheney himself has gone around talking about it

[The Omega Concern]

Holy shit.



http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/nzz3.jpg



the Sorcha Fall group (info/disinfo intelligence site) is claiming two Israeli missiles were brought down by the U.S. Navy. I only mention it because what Putin has done regarding this incident is plenty enough:


Unannounced Israel-U.S. missile test fuels jitters over Syria

By Dan Williams and Steve Gutterman

JERUSALEM/MOSCOW (Reuters) - Israel tested a U.S.-backed missile system in the Mediterranean on Tuesday but did not announce the launch in advance, prompting a disclosure by Russia that kept the world on edge as the United States weighed an attack on Syria.

The morning launch was first reported by Moscow media that quoted Russian defense officials as saying two ballistic "objects" had been fired eastward from the center of the sea - roughly in the direction of Syria.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/russia-says...090528639.html



This type of test requires advanced notice, which Israel did not give. The Sorcha Faal report mentions the U.S. backed ballistic shield Arrow was what brought the missiles down.


with that in mind, this is also in the Reuters report:


"The United States sees its underwriting of the Arrow as a means of reassuring Israel and, by extension, of reducing the chance that its ally might launch unilateral attacks on Syria or Iran that could destabilize the wider region."


What a threaded line that is. They actually mention the U.S. using this to squander an Israel attack, which is what Sorcha is claiming. jeebus. Regardless of that blue pill/red pill, Putin was on the motherfucker from the get go and outed Israel post haste. Dude is not fucking around.

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by Future Boy

still not sure why you keep thinking this Cheney and the bunker thing is some unreported secret when Cheney himself has gone around talking about it

hiding in plain view. He can't deny he was there, but will he ever mention what order it was he told that soldier was still on when the soldier asked if it was still on?

[Future Boy]

yeah, to shoot the plane heading to Washington down. He has written about it in his book, and then went around talking about it and his book. There is no mystery there, the first link I posted the other day was from 2004.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Starla

well hell, it seems like they want this more than Obama does... and I'm not really a Rand Paul fan... but you know shit is bad when he's the only one in the room making any sense, vs "omg mushroom cloud over the united states some day if we don't do this!!"

yeah i know what the fuck

also rand paul was the only repub senator to sign off on gillebrand's military rape crisis bill

[Starla]

I don't know if I have anymore energy to go off about that..

But

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...c-c0b0d9d4fe0a

McCain playing poker on his phone during the hearings.

[Future Boy]

thats exactly what a Maverick would do though, fuck that hearing

[RenewRevive]

wow Putin sounds like a statesman. Cameron, take note.

[Trotskilicious]

through an interpreter

really what he was saying in russian was DA I HAVE HUGE WANG BUT I DON'T SWING IT

[Order 66]

he was reciting dolph lundgren's lines from rocky 4

[The Omega Concern]

saw this reply on zerohedge. i laughed.

the consequences could be catastrophic



but wait.....

McCain said the consequences could be catastrophic if we don't go to war.

Now the Ruskies are saying the consequences could be catastrophic if we do go to war.

My wife said the consequences could be catastrophic if I don't keep my dick in my pants.

My girl friend said the consequences could be catastrophic if I don't dump my wife.

Shit! I'm so confused. I need beer, chips and a game to watch.

[The Omega Concern]

http://dam.alarabiya.net/images/aabd.../338/1?x=0&y=0



Why bother paying attention to a rigged vote?

[The Omega Concern]

y'all think McCain wants the war so he can impeach Obama on the backdoor?

[Future Boy]

no

[jczeroman]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

yeah i know what the fuck

also rand paul was the only repub senator to sign off on gillebrand's military rape crisis bill

I say this with the caveat that I personally do not plan on voting for Paul, but I don't understand why people on the left go after him. In terms of meaningful actions and stands on issues, he is arguably among the more left-leaning republicans in the Senate. Yes he is rhetorically pro-life, but I can't think of much else that should get him lumped in with someone like Ted Cruz or Rubio. I mean, his work with Wyden and Gillebrand is worth noticing. This is not your standard social-issues-first republican.

[duovamp]

I think you've got things a bit mixed up. Some principles aren't adopted by individuals in parties because they fit an ideal as much as they're just better ideas. By your logic, liberals in the US should be in favor of government regulating abortions. The left has developed some clever ways of using the government to improve lives, meanwhile the right in the US recently decided government is a failed idea. Rand favors his ideas because they fit an ideal. So sometimes he favors good ideas and sometimes he favors incredibly stupid ideas. To use a now beaten-to-death phrase, even a broken watch is right twice a day. Rand might be right twice a day, but he's still broken and ultimately useless. Especially when his reason for supporting good ideas is bad.

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by duovamp

I think you've got things a bit mixed up. Some principles aren't adopted by individuals in parties because they fit an ideal as much as they're just better ideas. By your logic, liberals in the US should be in favor of government regulating abortions. The left has developed some clever ways of using the government to improve lives, meanwhile the right in the US recently decided government is a failed idea. Rand favors his ideas because they fit an ideal. So sometimes he favors good ideas and sometimes he favors incredibly stupid ideas. To use a now beaten-to-death phrase, even a broken watch is right twice a day. Rand might be right twice a day, but he's still broken and ultimately useless. Especially when his reason for supporting good ideas is bad.

Both of you would do well to drop the left/right paradigm, but at least Trots is level headed with his reasoning.



The current left are a bunch of warmongering marxist/bolshevik freaks.


The current right are a bunch of warmongering nazi/stasi freaks.



Rand Paul and what I would term classical liberals, or how bout this, Tea Partyers and Occupy Movement folk, are neither of these. It's not that government doesn't work, it's that with the two marxist/nazi factions playing the game of opposition and fooling the general public it matters, THIS government doesn't work.

[The Omega Concern]

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