Bradley manning rightly sentenced to DEATH

See you in Hell, traitor

[duovamp]

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He sold America's secrets to the enemy and profited off the blood of our citizens...he got what he deserved

[Order 66]

never fuck with the NSA

[Starla]

He ruined this country's reputation. We had such a good rep until he did this.

[MyOneAndOnly]

bradley manning feltching AIDS tainted cum in hell

http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/ima...g_1024_822.jpg

[Future Boy]

you against manning scotty?

[MyOneAndOnly]

Not for or against. I do think he made some stupid fucking mistakes, though. If you're going to release classified info to the public don't indescriminately download shit tons of classified info that may or may not have anything to do with the issue you claim to be championing. Not unlike Snowden it makes him look like he only really cared about embarrassing or screwing with the military. If anything he has bigger balls than Snowden. He didn't go hide in china or Russia.

I also don't think he should die or spend the rest of his life in a military prison.

[redbreegull]

deserves a fucking monument

[Future Boy]

I dont quite get the lack of balls criticism of Snowden. He's taking on the US government, I think making sure he's out of the country first is just smart. Like is he just supposed to stay and get fucked over, especially since the stuff he leaked is actual shady shit being done by the gov? TAKE IT LIKE A MAN SNOWDEN, YOU BITCH

[The Omega Concern]

I'm not sold that either of these guys are even real. Vic Sim's is one term: Simulated victims. Or in this case, whistleblower/traitors.


With Manning; No family, no friends, no soldiers, no videos, no pics prior to trial (just one), have come forward.

No one can see him, no one can talk to him..I am wondering if this is a NWO sham...kind of the same deal with the Sandy Hoax parents.




Snowden? No high school, sketchy background considering the level he eventually got to in the NSA, and at that, that place is too compartmentalized for him to get access to all that he claimed. It's more likely he's a CIA plant that has been given all of these "leaks".



Both of their scenarios have essentially outed our government as the surveillance force many speculated about. This is the point of their outing.

[duovamp]

Clearly traded a sex change for pretend leak. That was her buy out. Everybody has a price, like when Nixon sold his presidency to Jimmy Carter because peanut Jimmy kidnapped Pat and replaced her with an android wife that Nixon didn't notice until 2 years after the switcheroo occurred.

I've said too much.

[Future Boy]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

I'm not sold that either of these guys are even real. Vic Sim's is one term: Simulated victims. Or in this case, whistleblower/traitors.

With Manning; No family, no friends, no soldiers, no videos, no pics prior to trial (just one), have come forward.

No one can see him, no one can talk to him..I am wondering if this is a NWO sham...kind of the same deal with the Sandy Hoax parents.

Snowden? No high school, sketchy background considering the level he eventually got to in the NSA, and at that, that place is too compartmentalized for him to get access to all that he claimed. It's more likely he's a CIA plant that has been given all of these "leaks".

Both of their scenarios have essentially outed our government as the surveillance force many speculated about. This is the point of their outing.

you know Omega I dont think anyone has defended you here more than me. Maybe Starla. Having said that...you went full retard man. Never go full retard.

[duovamp]

This message is hidden because Future Boy is on your ignore list.

[Future Boy]

yet you still have me on the brain, ignore is working wonders

[Starla]

Originally Posted by Future Boy

you know Omega I dont think anyone has defended you here more than me. Maybe Starla. Having said that...you went full retard man. Never go full retard.

TOC I do like you. I think you have some interesting thoughts sometimes, but this cluesforum stuff is way out there, don't you think?

[Starla]

Manning has family, they probably don't want to be in the news

Manning's uncle Kevin Fox told BBC television that the soldier shouldn't have been given any time at all and he called him a hero. Fox is Welsh, like Manning's mother, who is reportedly in poor health.

http://www.leaderpost.com/entertainm...230/story.html

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by Starla

TOC I do like you. I think you have some interesting thoughts sometimes, but this cluesforum stuff is way out there, don't you think?

It's so your fault. : )

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by Starla

TOC I do like you. I think you have some interesting thoughts sometimes, but this cluesforum stuff is way out there, don't you think?

You have a point there.


That's why I said what I said. THEY went full retard. I didn't consider manning anything other than what we're told until now.


Clues Forum is a site dedicated to media fakery and is likely trolled by the agencies. that said, they have a fairly strict method in determining digital manipulation. It leads to an interesting philo of what we think we know and how we think we know it.


tbh, I haven't checked much of their work on the wikileaks etc. I know their drill and put it into consideration, because their work on previous events is often outstanding.


It's the transgender "Chelsea" bit that makes me suspect now. It's a wink and a nod among the elite. It fits too many recent narratives in our culture with the bonus of now putting such people in the same swath of suspects such as tea partiers, armed veterans, ron paul supporters and any other right wing "extremist" that's been targeted and harassed by this government. that's how they roll.


so caution to you libs out there. you're next.

[Starla]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

You have a point there.


That's why I said what I said. THEY went full retard. I didn't consider manning anything other than what we're told until now.

I think the 9/11 vicsims thing is nuts. There are people over there even claiming the jumpers were not real, when there are hundreds of people who watched them jump. Then there was some theory that there were no people on the planes that crashed into the towers, and that the planes had landed somewhere, let the people off and they sent empty planes back out, and took all of those people to Costa Rica and other countries to hide them. Or was that the loose change guys who came up with that?

Clues Forum is a site dedicated to media fakery and is likely trolled by the agencies. that said, they have a fairly strict method in determining digital manipulation. It leads to an interesting philo of what we think we know and how we think we know it.

I admit that they have been able to prove media fakery and photo shops.

It's the transgender "Chelsea" bit that makes me suspect now. It's a wink and a nod among the elite. It fits too many recent narratives in our culture with the bonus of now putting such people in the same swath of suspects such as tea partiers, armed veterans, ron paul supporters and any other right wing "extremist" that's been targeted and harassed by this government. that's how they roll.


so caution to you libs out there. you're next.

It's kind of strange that it is coming out now. The govt in the past has used tactics like this to try and discredit a persons rep, like accuse them of having a porn den, being a child molester, etc. But since Chelsea's lawyer has said it... perhaps it is true. The way it's being played up in the media is gross to me.

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by Starla

I think the 9/11 vicsims thing is nuts. There are people over there even claiming the jumpers were not real, when there are hundreds of people who watched them jump. Then there was some theory that there were no people on the planes that crashed into the towers, and that the planes had landed somewhere, let the people off and they sent empty planes back out, and took all of those people to Costa Rica and other countries to hide them. Or was that the loose change guys who came up with that?




I admit that they have been able to prove media fakery and photo shops.






It's kind of strange that it is coming out now. The govt in the past has used tactics like this to try and discredit a persons rep, like accuse them of having a porn den, being a child molester, etc. But since Chelsea's lawyer has said it... perhaps it is true. The way it's being played up in the media is gross to me.

In a related manner, the vids and photos being shown about a Syrian chemical weapons attack were posted the day before the attacks occurred. Canned news. Complete bullshit and quite possibly just more staged drills for the war propagandist. Thing is, more and more people are catching on...




The "No Jumpers" on 9/11 could be disinfo. That's why I mentioned how that site is likely trolled by the agencies. They like to muddy the waters to discredit the whole movement.

The claim the planes landing in Cleveland I thought had more credibility in that it was reported by local media there that those planes had landed at that airport the morning of 9/11.

[Starla]

They even go as far as saying that the cell phone calls made by people on the planes were faked or staged. It's too crazy for me.

As for the chemical attacks, I think they are real... but I don't believe the Syrian govt did it.

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by Starla

They even go as far as saying that the cell phone calls made by people on the planes were faked or staged. It's too crazy for me.

As for the chemical attacks, I think they are real... but I don't believe the Syrian govt did it.

real or staged the intention is the same with Syria.


with 9/11, is your disbelief based in the implausible motive people must have to pull that off or perhaps some logistical concern?

from a tech point of view, they've had advanced voice sims for decades now. the stuff we peons deal with the automated operators is intentionally crude. For a few months, Amtrak rolled out the super gubmint virtual A.I. voice activation call center and it was almost like talking to a real person but with better customer service. They pulled it back in '03 and have kept it dark since.

[Starla]

I believe there were real people, real planes, and real phone calls. I believe there were jumpers.. and so on. It's the other things that I question... who really did this, the explosives, thermite found in the dust, building 7, fire fighters rendition of what they saw and heard etc.

Seriously, to fake all of these people, their names, families, voices... It would take irrefutable evidence in order for me to believe it.

[redbreegull]

it's no use, it actually takes an understanding of how real people interact with each other to comprehend that a conspiracy of complex lies and information suppression involving thousands of people is completely impossible, and toc does not have that

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by redbreedull

it's no use, it actually takes an understanding of how real people interact with each other to comprehend that a conspiracy of complex lies and information suppression involving thousands of people is completely impossible, and toc does not have that

You don't understand the notion of compartmentalization. And btw, the Manhattan Project involved thousands of people and was kept secret for years. So please, you are out of your league redbreedull.

Multiple U.S. intelligence sources have reported to WMR that a super-classified network with only some 70 terminals in select U.S. government locations handled the parallel command-and-control activities that permitted the 9/11 terrorist attacks to be successful.

The "above top secret" network bears the acronym "PDAS." WMR has not yet discovered what the acronym stands for, however, the system is limited to only a few hundred people with Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) Special Access Program (SAP) need-to-know access, in addition to the President and Vice President.

On September 11, 2001, PDAS was used to convey the information from the Air Force Chief of Staff to the White House, CIA, and other select agencies that the Air Force had successfully intercepted and downed a target over Pennsylvania. It is believed that the "target" in question was United flight 93, although there is no confirmation that the aircraft was in fact the one downed by Air Force interceptors.

[The Omega Concern]

Any liberal in good standing must consider this as nefarious and enough circumstantial evidence to further question the former VP on conspiracy charges.

Mineta testified before the 9/11 Commission that Cheney was aware of special orders concerning a plane heading toward Washington. Mineta said: "During the time that the airplane was coming into the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President the plane is 50 miles out the plane is 30 miles out.and when it got down to the plane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the vice president 'do the orders still stand?' And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said "Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary?"

http://rense.com/general90/911chen.htm



Simple questions are the best ones.


What "orders" was Cheney referring to when he addressed the young man who kept telling him the plane was headed for D.C.?

[redbreegull]

right, the problem is that you don't know what a "fact" is versus a made up piece of bullshit information that an insane person with internet access is propagating

[Future Boy]

I thought it came out in a book or something years ago that they had given an order to shoot the plane down before the passengers went all Die Hard and shit. Not really sure how thats proof of a conspiracy, it was clear by then shit was going down. Hijacked plane headed for Washington after two were just crashed into WTC. They shouldve given the order.

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

it was almost like talking to a real person but with better customer service.

http://forums.netphoria.org/wwwboard/icons/icon10.gif

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

right, the problem is that you don't know what a "fact" is versus a made up piece of bullshit information that an insane person with internet access is propagating

It's official testimony of Norman Mineta from the 9/11 Commission. You lose redbreedull because you choose to be a dumbed down idiot.

Mineta later followed up with reporters and stated "When I overheard something about 'the orders still stand' and so, what I thought of was that they had already made the decision to shoot something down."

Logical deduction, but of course officially denied. that Mineta, such a conspiracy theorist.