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Old 06-17-2013, 06:22 PM   #121
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what if autistic kids are the only weapons we have against the all seeing lucepherian snake jew banksters from the shadow planet? like maybe they're functioning on another plane of consciousness that we can't even comprehend and eventually they will form a gestalt whole and kill all the snake men with mind bullets

bet you never thought of that

 
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:24 PM   #122
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no but seriously: if officials do nothing but lie then what does that make official documents

 
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:59 PM   #123
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official documents made official by a government that lies to us, right?

just keeping track here

so what does that make the official documents, are they lies or not? I mean if the government is in on the conspiracy of the true ishtarian snake overlords then if they release a document that reflects something you think is true then that suddenly makes it true or what


You should follow this line of questioning more often with official sources. You wouldn't need to question this paper however if you bothered to read just a little bit of it to get the context of the evidence.


In this case 30 years of official transcripts of UK government vaccine committees and the “experts” sitting on them with their drug industry connections. All held in secret until this doctor was able to obtain them through an FOIA act request in the U.K.



But thanks for showing your level of discourse. You and Bread Regal must hang out at the same "2+2 = 3" school cuz you just can't put together all the pieces when there in front of you.

 
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:29 PM   #124
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So did Glenn Beck say anything today about his bullshit he pulled last week? Even Alex Jones thinks he's lame for this.

 
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:31 PM   #125
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what if autistic kids are the only weapons we have against the all seeing lucepherian snake jew banksters from the shadow planet? like maybe they're functioning on another plane of consciousness that we can't even comprehend and eventually they will form a gestalt whole and kill all the snake men with mind bullets

bet you never thought of that
lol oh God.

 
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Old 06-17-2013, 08:34 PM   #126
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35 years ago, Autism was at a ratio of 1 in 25,000. Now its 1 in 75.
I concede that this is statistically significant and merits further study. Part of the increase is likely attributable to the fact that the "spectrum" in "autism spectrum disorder" has broadened significantly in those 35 years. it's widely acknowledged by the scientific community that that this is the primary driver in the increase of autism diagnoses (and misdiagnoses).

but for you to say that it's attributable to a vaccine requires you to produce compelling statistical evidence.

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Let the debate go on about the direct cause, there's probably more than one but it would be foolish to discount vaccines as a whole.
I agree. That would be completely foolish if there wasn't any statistically significant increase in the rate of autism among children who have and have not been vaccinated.

Let me repeat that: the rate of autism among children who have been vaccinated is not any different from children who have not been vaccinated.

here's a scholarly article to show it, based on a 7 year population based study in Denmark:

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa021134

it's actually not very long is is quite information dense. shouldn't take you long to go through the whole thing.

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Not when in 1983 children received 10 vaccinations before attending school. Today they receive 24 vaccines before the age of 1, and 36 by the time they attend school. And that’s not including the recommended seasonal flu shot each year.
i'm actually a little bit amused that you would embolden this. it doesn't really do anything to help your case that the mmr vaccine causes autism. you place special importance on the volume of vaccines, but you do not present any evidence that there is any correlation to the rate of autism, which is what this discussion is all about, isn't it?

Let me put it this way with an example:

Americans consume more calories on a daily basis today than they did 40 years ago. the rate of obesity is also higher than it was 40 years ago. While it might be obvious that eating a lot of food makes you fat, you cannot make that claim unless you compare the rates of obesity within two discrete groups: 1) People who eat a lot and 2) people who do not eat a lot.

This might seem obvious, but you seem to be missing this concept which is fundamental to all research. You need to produce evidence that shows a statistically significant correlation between autism and the MMR vaccine.




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You may not be familiar with the eugenic aspect to all this. Once one is, the battle at the ground floor becomes clearer.
Explain to me how eugenics is at all relevant.

 
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Old 06-17-2013, 08:36 PM   #127
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scotty (edit oh you were actually specifically talking about him after all lol)

i love reading your posts about science

in fact i would love reading a blog wherein you take down all the specious psuedo scientific and anti-scientific reasoning you can find
I would love to do that but it would take up way too much of my time. Maybe after grad school though.

 
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:24 PM   #128
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Explain to me how eugenics is at all relevant.



The roots and genesis of modern day pharmacology is in Nazi eugenics. The process has metastasized into a soft kill behemoth that is a tool for population reduction.



We might come to agreement that the increase in various ailments is environmental more so than genetic. Just a guess. And at that, increase in ailments could be attributed to broader definitions. T'was a time when it was considered 'boys will be boys', but now is often viewed as ADD ADHD and other psychological definitions which, again, suit the pharm's bottom line more so than the populace's health.


that's my take. Its not to tough to see from where I stand.

 
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:40 PM   #129
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You should follow this line of questioning more often with official sources. You wouldn't need to question this paper however if you bothered to read just a little bit of it to get the context of the evidence.


In this case 30 years of official transcripts of UK government vaccine committees and the “experts” sitting on them with their drug industry connections. All held in secret until this doctor was able to obtain them through an FOIA act request in the U.K.



But thanks for showing your level of discourse. You and Bread Regal must hang out at the same "2+2 = 3" school cuz you just can't put together all the pieces when there in front of you.
you didn't actually explain why these official documents written by the government are trustworthy when the government officials that write the official documents are not

are you having trouble figuring out how to explain that so you resort to ad hominem attacks and stuff or what

i mean the reason you can't figure out how to explain it is because it's a complete logical failure

 
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:45 PM   #130
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every minute we keep TOC tied-up posting in here is time he can't spend out in the real world telling people the truth about the Lizard people.

 
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:54 PM   #131
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the government is not to be trusted, except when it allegedly verifies my pet theory

 
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:58 PM   #132
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he's using the government against itself...

cause he's smart enough to know which lies are lies and which lies are truths

 
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Old 06-18-2013, 05:04 PM   #133
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probably because of jesus

 
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Old 06-18-2013, 05:21 PM   #134
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i had assumed TOC was a trots troll anyways

 
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Old 06-18-2013, 05:25 PM   #135
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you think i'd argue with my own troll, i think i'm insulted

but then i remembered that honey badger don't give a shit

 
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Old 06-18-2013, 05:49 PM   #136
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There is certainly an interest in an even bigger pharma market.
So to quote you: follow the money. Killing potential clients would be a rather idiotic move, don't you think?
I onno phillip morris seems to be doing just fine

 
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:06 PM   #137
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the government is not to be trusted, except when it allegedly verifies my pet theory
quite the contrary, when it comes to the police state, most of what Alex Jones claims is in government documents. Them telling the truth is reason enough not to trust what they plan to do.


straight Stasi, in case you've been living under a rock the last month.

 
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:13 PM   #138
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yeah actually was it last month when they failed to Take All of Our Guns Away and Put Us In FEMA Camps for what is it now the 1345th consecutive month

your sentence basically made no sense but i guess that's about as close as we can get.

"we can't trust them because of the truths in their papers"

logic how does it work

 
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:17 PM   #139
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i just found this picture on wiki, attributed to nasa



proves its fusion bomb capability based on lines obvious sheeple head in the sand right there in your face alex jones nasa fema camp obama micropenis montelds government papers 9/11 truth airplane lucepherian is spelled with a p lizard people shape shifting pedo cabal ring

 
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:20 PM   #140
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he's using the government against itself...

cause he's smart enough to know which lies are lies and which lies are truths



I understand how to read each situation in context.


History is filled with FOIA requests that get denied and then opened. You take in the data and see where it leads. that's what good researchers do.


But the twitty level of argumentation here is telling. Its revealing to me that you can't understand why 30 years of previously unreleased transcripts is important in the vaccine issue.


Conversely, you all seem to indicate you believe the government/pharm industry when it comes to vaccines, yet you ignore the evidence that shows a conspiracy as fact.

Of course, cognitive dissonance and all. who the hell wants to think about the other theories out there, unproven, but in line with what was thought to be a theory here, but found to be true.

 
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:21 PM   #141
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you are fucking retarded

 
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:30 PM   #142
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Are you? You keep taking him seriously.

 
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:18 PM   #143
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Hey we're still here.

 
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I'm part of the power structure.

 
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Old 06-18-2013, 09:06 PM   #145
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quite the contrary, when it comes to the police state, most of what Alex Jones claims is in government documents. Them telling the truth is reason enough not to trust what they plan to do.
so them telling the truth is the best indicator that they are lying about something bigger, is what you are saying? how do you know what the BIG LIE is and what the SMALL TRUTHS are?

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Old 06-18-2013, 09:10 PM   #146
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schizophrenia

 
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:26 PM   #147
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I'm 70% sure that TOC overdosed on bromodragonfly or something like that, suffering irreparable damage to his psyche

 
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Old 06-18-2013, 11:33 PM   #148
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http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...ies-at-33?lite

MAN RESPONSIBLE FOR RESIGNATION OF GENERAL Stanley McChrystal DIES IN "MYSTERIOUS" CAR CRASH

ELITE BANKERS LIZARD JEWS REPLITLIANS

 
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Old 06-18-2013, 11:37 PM   #149
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Everything happens for an ishtarian jew pedo luciferian khmer rouge reason

 
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Old 06-19-2013, 12:20 AM   #150
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so them telling the truth is the best indicator that they are lying about something bigger, is what you are saying? how do you know what the BIG LIE is and what the SMALL TRUTHS are?


You should spend as much time breaking down the complexity of a government and pharm industry that conspires for profit at the expense of public health.

However, your circular ill logic exposes you and anyone else lopping on to your willing blindness.


30 years of transcripts previously hidden gets exposed, and many of you can't even grasp the simple concept of that. They got caught lying. fuckin A, you dipshits. seriously. get a fucking clue.


To answer your question: as time moves and the lies get exposed and the truth comes out, you know who stood where prior to exposure and those are the people who gain credibility.


But I'm not sure of the level of discourse here. You see, this Snowden thing has blown the surveillance grid out in the open. Same grid many in government lied about previously, but now have to admit it.


Y'all telling me you can't understand that simple picture...getting caught in a lie and having to admit the truth.

Knock yourselves out trying to entrap me in something that can't exist unless its in the mind of a retard. straight up.

 
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