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Old 04-22-2013, 10:12 PM   #421
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the definition of "unreasonable" is pretty squishy. and nothing was seized. and this really isn't any more of an intrusion than NYC stop and frisks. it's just in white suburbia so people care more.

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Yeah honestly this case does not seem unreasonable.


What seemed unreasonable to me was the police reaction to Dorner in LA, shooting civilians and such and then burning down someone's cabin

 
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:14 PM   #422
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that's a blatant violation of the 4th amendment on these people...

ahh, n/m.


go back to sleep.
how familiar are you with current 4th amendment jurisprudence

my guess is not very

 
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:15 PM   #423
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goddamn it i am violating my own rules now

 
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:17 PM   #424
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From what I have heard, the older brother went back to Chechnya and hung out with some underground terrorists. One of our spies saw him and that is when fbi started to track him. The little brother may have gotten caught up in his brother's mess. idk


Then why did they let him back in the country?


think, Starla.



You know one of the end games. you've been predicting it around here for awhile now, while I've been skeptical. Well...






nothing official of course, beta-test for sure. whatev...looks pretty real to me. You're a damn fool if you think this is gonna be an isolated incident going forward.

 
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:17 PM   #425
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:51 PM   #426
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EDIT bla forget it.

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Old 04-22-2013, 11:01 PM   #427
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I still think it was conducted in an unreasonable way. How many were consenting? Why were they forced out of the house with hands behind their heads and patted down as if they were all suspects? I will have to go back and listen again, but I thought I heard someone in the house say "don't be so forceful" . I don't know if that was an officer or one of the residents.

 
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:04 PM   #428
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I still think it was conducted in an unreasonable way. How many were consenting? Why were they forced out of the house with hands behind their heads and patted down as if they were all suspects? I will have to go back and listen again, but I thought I heard someone in the house say "don't be so forceful" . I don't know if that was an officer or one of the residents.
At the same time, we're not seeing really what happened before the "raid". Maybe those civilians threatened the offers? Maybe they though Han Dzholo himself was in there? We just don't know, so we should reserve judgement until we have more information.

 
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:10 PM   #429
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I could be wrong because I only glanced at the story but I swear people were tweeting pics of the cops searching their house while they were like sitting on the sofa.

I dont think they were all done this way is what Im saying.

 
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Old 04-22-2013, 11:18 PM   #430
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where did all these clear pics of the bombers come from, like on MSN:



these might've been more useful than grainy side view surveillance footage. Non-omega concern territory here, just wondering how these shots could be missed

 
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Old 04-23-2013, 12:13 AM   #431
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where the 1st bomber kicked it. kinda :erm


 
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Old 04-23-2013, 12:42 AM   #432
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hahahahahaha

I have a dark sense of humor, but we have a pretty violent mentality as a society

 
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Old 04-23-2013, 12:47 AM   #433
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The Czech Republic is having a hard time trying to shut up all this nonsense going around, I even saw travel warnings. How is such idiocy (and lack of education or access to a map of the world) even possible.

 
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Old 04-23-2013, 01:02 AM   #434
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they bombed us first

 
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Old 04-23-2013, 01:12 AM   #435
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And is it just me ODing on bullshit or is TOC becoming more and more irrational?



 
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Old 04-23-2013, 01:38 AM   #436
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The Czech Republic is having a hard time trying to shut up all this nonsense going around, I even saw travel warnings. How is such idiocy (and lack of education or access to a map of the world) even possible.
yeah, the worst part about this is how some people claim "the czech republic" attacked them, when in reality not even "chechnya" did, but a couple of individuals. it's like the palestinians burning U.S. flags when some individual American does something stupid like that hilariously warped Muhammed film

 
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:10 AM   #437
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where did all these clear pics of the bombers come from, like on MSN:



these might've been more useful than grainy side view surveillance footage. Non-omega concern territory here, just wondering how these shots could be missed
probably found in a crowd shot after the surveillance

 
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:12 AM   #438
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where the 1st bomber kicked it. kinda :erm


 
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Old 04-23-2013, 03:25 PM   #439
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DT is confessing. citing Iraq War and his brother as his reasoning for the bombimg.

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From his hospital bed, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has acknowledged his role in planting the explosives near the marathon finish line on April 15, the officials said.
He's also cited the Iraq war and his brother as reasoning for the bombimg.

Here are quite a few photos from the shootout too. Pretty wild.

 
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Old 04-23-2013, 03:51 PM   #440
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Nope, obvious govt photoshops to back-up a forced confession.

You should be called sheeplepunk.

 
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Old 04-23-2013, 03:58 PM   #441
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It’s not a good idea to take down the pictures. Law enforcement and the FBI will claim they don’t want them out there because people might jump to conclusions or draw the wrong conclusions. That is not true. They don’t want pictures, films, or credible first person accounts because they don’t want anything out there that contradicts the story they want to disseminate.
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Great pics. You should have put a bead on those two iSLAMIC pigs and dropped them like the animals they are. All the more reasons why Americans should be armed.


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This makes no sense and PROVES nothing. Where is the black Mercedes that they hijacked? And now they are riding around in two cars? And if they did indeed detonate bombs, as you say, then why are other witnesses claiming they only herd gunshots? And you mean to tell me they are just riding around with pressure cooker bombs in their car? Not only that, but they then car jacked a man and risked moving the bomb to another car? And what about suspect #1 getting “run over” by his brother? You make no mention of that… Then you say suspect #1 runs towrads the cops and they dont riddle Him with bullets? And dont say they did because there is video of them escorting a man naked into a cop car, and theres also footage of a fully dressed man laying on the ground. And isn’t it ironic that theses home made bombs caused no damage to its surroundings? NEXT!

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Old 04-23-2013, 04:40 PM   #442
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i understand the current admin isnt particularly doveish but isn't iraq pretty much after-the-fact at this point in history. nigga's kinda dumb

 
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:22 PM   #443
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Since recovering enough to communicate by nodding his head and writing, the younger Tsarnaev has also told authorities he and his brother acted alone, learned to build the pressure-cooker bombs over the Internet and were motivated by a desire to defend Islam because of "the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan," NBC News reported.

NBC cited an unnamed U.S. counterterrorism source who has received multiple briefings on the investigation. Reuters could not confirm the information.

 
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Old 04-23-2013, 05:41 PM   #444
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Just because it might piss you off...

A Poem for Dzhokhar
by Amanda Fucking Palmer

you don’t know how it felt to be in the womb but it must have been at least a little warmer than this.

you don’t know how intimately they’re recording your every move on closed-circuit cameras until you see your face reflected back at you through through the pulp.

you don’t know how to stop picking at your fingers.

you don’t know how little you’ve been paying attention until you look down at your legs again.

you don’t know how many times you can say you’re coming until they just stop believing you.

you don’t know how orgasmic the act of taking in a lungful of oxygen is until they hold your head under the water.

you don’t know how many vietnamese soft rolls to order.

you don’t know how convinced your parents were that having children would be, absolutely, without question, the correct thing to do.

you don’t know how precious your iphone battery time was until you’re hiding in the bottom of the boat.

you don’t know how to get away from your fucking parents.

you don’t know how it’s possible to feel total compassion in one moment and total disconnection in the next moment.

you don’t know how things could change so incredibly fast.

you don’t know how to make something, but the instructions are on the internet.

you don’t know how to make sense of this massive parade.

you don’t know how to believe anyone anymore.

you don’t know how to tell the girl in the chair next to you that you’ve been peeking at her dissertation draft and there’s a grammatical typo in the actual file name.

you don’t know how to explain yourself.

you don’t want two percent but it’s all they have.

you don’t know how claustrophobic your house is until you can’t leave it.

you don’t know why you let that guy go without shooting him dead and stuffing him in some bushes between cambridge and watertown.

you don’t know where your friends went.

you don’t know how to dance but you give it a shot anyway.

you don’t know how your life managed to move twenty six miles forward and twenty eight miles back.

you don’t know how to pay your debts.

you don’t know how to separate from this partnership to escape and finally breathe.

you don’t know how come people run their goddamn knees into the ground anyway.

you don’t know how to measure the value of the twenty dollar bill clutched in your hurting hand.

you don’t know how you walked into this trap so obliviously.

you don’t know how to adjust the rearview mirror.

you don’t know how to mourn your dead brother.

you don’t know how to drive this car.

you don’t know the way to new york.

you don’t know the way to new york.

you don’t know the way to new york.

you don’t know the way to new york.

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At least Eulogy has the guts to thrust and parry now and again. It's not like I'll ever say I know what the real story is, but, there is knowledge the story as unfolding is a manipulation. follow the bloody brick road from there.




It's easy to see the manipulation if you look, which bozo in the sand over there can't now. i envy that somewhat, ignorance can be bliss...until is isn't...errr



ahh yes, the FBI's problem:






This is them caught in Big Lie number one. Feigning ignorance to the identity of the suspects.


After this release, the family of the brothers claimed the fbi had been in contact with their boys for a number of years. Since the family and the boys knew they were both on surveillance, they were surprised the feds would say they did not know they were planning something.



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CBS would report that the FBI would initially deny having any prior contact with the suspects. In their report, "CBS News: FBI Interviewed Tamerlan Tsarnaev 2 Years Ago," CBS claimed:

CBS News reports although the FBI initially denied contacting Tsarnaev, the brothers’ mother said they had in an interview with Russia Today
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The FBI was then forced to admit they interviewed the suspects 2 years prior to the bombing.


http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/pre...ign-government


I could go on, but that should be enough to know that you should be skeptical of all info regarding the Marathon bombings as it unfolds -- from the conspiratorial to the authorities to the mainstream media.







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Old 04-23-2013, 08:11 PM   #447
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i understand the current admin isnt particularly doveish but isn't iraq pretty much after-the-fact at this point in history. nigga's kinda dumb
he's 19 and probably coerced by his brother

 
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Really? So the older brother spent months with terrorist in Chechnya yet learned to build bombs over the internet? Of course. n/m. that makes perfect sense in the bizzarro shill world of the U.S. mainstream media. Why ask tough questions...




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The British Daily Mail in their article titled, "Russia asked FBI to investigate bomber just 6 MONTHS ago after being spotted with 'a militant' on trip to Dagestan: Was it this known terrorist who Boston killer liked on YouTube?," would state:

Speculation is growing that one of the Boston bombers met a known Jihadist terrorist in 2011 - as it emerged the FBI failed to follow up on a Russian tip that he was seen with an Islamic militant six times.

The Daily Mail would also report that:

The FBI has confirmed that Russia alerted the agency in 2011 that Tsarnaev had ties to 'radical Islam' groups in his homeland. Homeland Security sources have also revealed the agency received tips in 2012 about his ties to extremists connected to a Boston mosque.


This is Big Lie no. 2. There's more info coming out how the Russians warned our government of the older brother just 6 months before the bombings when they spotted him on a trip in the Chechyan region.


fellow Americans should also know the mother isn't being painted as the loco yolo crazy in denial type as painted here in the states. That narrative is much different worldwide, fyi.

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Really? So the older brother spent months with terrorist in Chechnya yet learned to build bombs over the internet? Of course. n/m. that makes perfect sense in the bizzarro shill world of the U.S. mainstream media. Why ask tough questions...








This is Big Lie no. 2. There's more info coming out how the Russians warned our government of the older brother just 6 months before the bombings when they spotted him on a trip in the Chechyen region.


fellow Americans should also know the mother isn't being painted as the loco yolo crazy in denial type as painted here in the states. That narrative is much different worldwide, fyi.
America is all about freedom and not being intrusive so they didn't really want get involved in that guys life you know?

 
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Really WHAT, TOC? I quoted Reuters saying they were not able to confirm the NBC story, I don't see what point you're trying to make here. That the FBI interviewed the older in 2011 because Russia alarmed them has been in the news for days now.

What I'm interested in is if the younger one - interrogated in hospital - was tube-waterboarded to nod a confession.

 
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