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Old 04-21-2013, 04:57 PM   #391
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And by "real story" we mean the immense government conspiracy that planned and detonated the blasts of their own citizens and the framing of two individuals who just also happened to have explosives on them anyways, all for the purposes of A) creating a police-state for a mere 12 hours in one singular neighborhood and B) that the citizens wouldn't notice Obama signing bills that would have been signed anyways (all to the insane government costs of covering the expenses of 150 injured people all simultaneously needing emergency care, as well as three different police agencies all working in tandem), correct?
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Old 04-21-2013, 04:59 PM   #392
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yes eyewitnesses



So obviously they'd kill him at the least opportune moment when he's surrounded by hospital workers, cops and the world knows where he is, brilliant!
Too much logical thought here, not enough fantasizing

 
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:40 PM   #393
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Jury bias...

Then why didn't they say that? Instead they said the reason the tape wasn't shown was because they didn't want someone getting angry by seeing it played over and over again and then taking actions into their own hands if they ever came across the suspects. But now the suspects are caught so that shouldn't be an issue anymore.


I'm starting to doubt we will ever see the video and it wont even be shown during the trial.

 
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:10 PM   #394
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TOC, I don't know if it has been asked or addressed yet but do you think drones were used at all during this manhunt? Not necessarily to attack but to look for him?

 
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:19 PM   #395
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Seriously there is nobody out there who believes EVERYTHING is a conspiracy. It's clearly a troll. Jus stop feeding it already. Play along and have fun but don't argue with it.

 
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:13 PM   #396
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I'm having a difficult time believing that a kid was hired by FBI to penetrate terrorist cells. And you know how questionable debka is.

 
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:19 PM   #397
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Everything is a false flag now. The bridge out here could collapse and someone would shout false flag!

 
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:28 PM   #398
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yes eyewitnesses



So obviously they'd kill him at the least opportune moment when he's surrounded by hospital workers, cops and the world knows where he is, brilliant!


Setting aside the CluesForum ethic of digital deceptions, I'm gonna take that photo I've seen of the one getting out of the boat at face value.

He doesn't appear bloodied to any extent and his face looks intact.

But the photo's of him on the ground surrounded by the cops he looks pretty fucked up. From what I understand, the police say those came from a failed suicide attempt.

So how did that happen between the time he got out of the boat and the time he was prone on the ground?


at that, we're being told he can't speak. The governor put it that he can't communicate as yet, so I guess his fingers are broken as well and there's no need for pen and paper.





this is the guy that got his citizenship on 9-11 of last year, right? lived here for a decade and then gets his papers on the 11th anniversary. lol. wake the fuck up people. that's the leets playing their wicked games man. rskpeckkk...


 
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:43 PM   #399
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you cant make anything out of that boat pic, all you see is his hair, cant even see his face

 
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:43 PM   #400
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:50 PM   #401
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I'm having a difficult time believing that a kid was hired by FBI to penetrate terrorist cells. And you know how questionable debka is.


The FBI has a PR problem. They are gonna have to wear the look of incompetence on this because they had contact with the older brother for years:


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The FBI confirmed yesterday it had interviewed Tamerlan in 2011, at the request of an unidentified foreign government — later reported to be Russia — over suspected ties to an extremist group.

The questioning did not produce any “derogatory” information and the matter was put “to bed,” a US law enforcement source said.

The FBI’s contact with Tamerlan was described as “a sit-down interview where they asked him questions about contacts and surroundings”.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...at-wounds.html



and note that it was the mother who came out with this info before the FBI had to admit it. That's a damage control I wouldn't imagine they'd want or likely expect. If the Prez is pulling a Bush again with the Saudi's keeping known suspected terrorist from being questioned by the FBI, I'd imagine the FBI is none too happy about that as well.


On the surface of it. The trail of contact the FBI had with this guy only opens up more questions, not answers. Again, if you're from a foreign country and have been tagged and followed by the FBI for five years, you're likely a terrorist or possibly an informant.

roll with me, if the latter is indeed the case, the FBI has to do damage control on their 'incompetence' in not getting this guy before his terrorist act. Because if he wasn't a hired gun, it was incompetence or worse negligence on their part.

I'm gonna guess this agency isn't gonna take this option too well. Something's a brewing amongst the intelligence agencies and military for that matter. division in the ranks and all...interesting times.

 
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Old 04-21-2013, 10:54 PM   #402
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DT is awake and answering questions in writing, per Boston.com.

And

Josh Elliott @JoshElliottABC 38m
Law enforcement sources tell @PierreTABC bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is awake, and responding in writing "sporadically" to questions.

 
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:08 PM   #403
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you cant make anything out of that boat pic, all you see is his hair, cant even see his face


i guess but it still doesn't look like a guy who just tried to blow his head off or whatever, cut his own jugular or something. whatever that failed suicide attempt we're being told.


I guess you buy that he ran over his brother with the SUV too? Any video of that? I've seen a vid of a guy that fits the description of the older brother walking naked in handcuffs being led to a cop car. But I guess that was some unlucky guy who strongly resembled him. its all a bit confusing. its kinda meant to be.

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Old 04-21-2013, 11:16 PM   #404
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DT is awake and answering questions in writing, per Boston.com.

And

Josh Elliott @JoshElliottABC 38m
Law enforcement sources tell @PierreTABC bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is awake, and responding in writing "sporadically" to questions.



Wonderful. I'm confident at least 2 out of 3 FBI agents can handle it.




 
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:30 PM   #405
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Do you have any sources for any of your claims Omega?

 
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:37 PM   #406
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I guess you buy that he ran over his brother with the SUV too?
yeah, because its hysterical

 
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Old 04-22-2013, 12:05 AM   #407
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Do you have any sources for any of your claims Omega?
No. He was shouting this bullshit before the smoke from the bombs cleared.

 
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Old 04-22-2013, 02:40 AM   #408
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From what I have heard, the older brother went back to Chechnya and hung out with some underground terrorists. One of our spies saw him and that is when fbi started to track him. The little brother may have gotten caught up in his brother's mess. idk

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Old 04-22-2013, 03:14 AM   #409
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Huh?
I read it was a Russian secret service that kept an eye on the older brother, then tipped off the US, FBI interviewed him, saw nothing that seemed relevant, let him off the hook. Later, in 2012, he spent some months in Russia.
This story is changing too fast for me.

 
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I actually did not read that, I heard it reported on CBS and RT yesterday. And yeah there are different versions to this story. I don't know what to believe.

 
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Tamerlan Tsarnaev traveled to Moscow in January 2012 and spent six months in Dagestan, a law enforcement source said. Neighbors in Makhachkala, the region's capital city, said he kept a low profile while spending time last summer help his father renovate an apartment unit. It was unclear if he could have had contact with militant Islamist groups in southern Russia's restive Caucasus region.

But that trip, combined with Russian interest in Tamerlan communicated to U.S. authorities and an FBI interview of him in 2011, have raised questions whether danger signals were missed.
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The criminal complaint against DT was filed today.

TT also has a connection to an unsolved triple-murder two years ago.

 
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:50 PM   #413
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Conspiracies and bs aside, I do think this is unreasonable search and seizure.



 
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Old 04-22-2013, 09:56 PM   #414
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Not under the Patriot Act it's not... :/

which actually was of no help in this particular case, because the kid was identified by a vigilant individual.

 
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:03 PM   #415
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i mean

the definition of "unreasonable" is pretty squishy. and nothing was seized. and this really isn't any more of an intrusion than NYC stop and frisks. it's just in white suburbia so people care more.

my two cents

 
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Do you have any sources for any of your claims Omega?

it's a cadre of info/disinfo/misinfo sites that have varied rates of hits and misses on their intel.


as a quick example, Ben Fulford, controversial of course, but WAY CONNECTED for sure, was accurate in reporting months in advance the Pope would step down. Since one hadn't in 700 years, that was a pretty big hit. So when he goes on about his P2 Vatican lodge sources, it comes with some level of credibility these days.



Spy games a wicked web though...


but the illuminati don't exactly hide their intentions.




Like this Martial Law beta test the other day in Boston. It's been a decades long end goal of the elites to bring to this nation:




 
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also my guess would be that the people in the houses consented to searches because like, there was a goddamn terrorist in the neighborhood.

 
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also my guess would be that the people in the houses consented to searches because like, there was a goddamn terrorist in the neighborhood.


 
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Old 04-22-2013, 10:07 PM   #419
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Hey Eulogy,


that's a blatant violation of the 4th amendment on these people...

ahh, n/m.


go back to sleep.

 
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