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Old 10-30-2012, 10:21 PM   #31
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Are you seeing a therapist at all, ilp?

 
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:25 PM   #32
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No I don't have insurance but today I started thinking I might have depression again, not just a bad mood I can will away.

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Old 10-30-2012, 10:26 PM   #33
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I'm sorry, but I don't (hope you feel better).
First posting about meth, then your stashbox, then "drugs are not a problem, I only shot heroin xy times"...blah. You feel like shit? Good for you. Maybe you need to hit rock-bottom to wake up.

Also you don't spend money on a therapy but on trippin? Sure, it's all depression, nothing to do with the way you keep fucking up your body.

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Old 10-30-2012, 10:27 PM   #34
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Because fuck I am trying to will it away! I've surrounded myself with new people, places, things, and experiences and I hate them all and they make me want to die. That is not right, I fear.

 
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:28 PM   #35
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I'm sorry, but I don't.
First posting about meth, then your stashbox, then "drugs are not a problem, I only shot heroin xy times"...blah. You feel like shit? Good for you. Maybe you need to hit rock-bottom to wake up.
It sounds hollow but using never makes me bummed out, it's my own personality traits that do it. Being high is just a feeling

 
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:30 PM   #36
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you should watch some MLP Friendship is Magic

 
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:38 PM   #37
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No I don't have insurance but today I starting thinking I might have depression again, not just a bad mood I can will away.
Keep an eye on things, can you go to the dr. without insurance? I was addicted and depressed for a long time and they are separate issues though the overall effect of the drugs was to worsen my depression. I was self-medicating with drugs so it alleviated things for a while but the chemical aftermath for my brain left me feeling a bit worse. I'm off the drugs and still depressed though so I get what you mean about it being a separate issue. Be kind to yourself...can you take a long bath or shower with nice smelling stuff? Or make a huge pot of herbal tea or moisturise your arms with scented moisturizer. You won't be able to punish yourself well. . I tried for years and years. It doesn't work. Wellness begins with self care, not self hatred. It takes a long time to be ready for that though.

 
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:41 PM   #38
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i don't subscribe to the "rock-bottom" belief

however, ilp, just because you don't see a direct cause and effect doesnt mean it doesn't play a signifigant role...

for example, you feel like shit... you do drugs instead of working on not feeling like shit... is it the drugs making you feel like shit? no. but it is preventing you from doing real work - you dig me?

i'm not saying this is exactly what is happening but i think it's a bigger problem then you think.

even psychedelics can be used for these purposes under certain circumstances. i started doing it with LSD. i felt in control while on it, like i could make anything happen, and in a sense i could (in my mind, w/ hallucinations and whatnot) - and that is all well and good - if it's not what you live for

i dont have advice just be careful out there and dont be afraid to get outside help

 
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:43 PM   #39
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No I don't have insurance but today I starting thinking I might have depression again, not just a bad mood I can will away.
there are sliding scale places. look for community center type places. here there's a lot of jewish family services places that won't charge you a thing if you can't afford it.

 
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Old 10-30-2012, 10:45 PM   #40
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whether it started with depression or substance abuse doesnt really matter at this point, it is being perpetuated and you are right you are in a hole that will get deeper until you realize it's not working anymore and change a lot of stuff but thats different for everyone and i wont pretend to know the secret to... whatever... changing. but getting professional help is a good start

 
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:07 PM   #41
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i dont know what to change for

 
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:08 PM   #42
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do you know the secret to that? to finding value and meaning in things that won't disappear on you?

 
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:29 PM   #43
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I want to destroy myself and everything else also fuckkkkkkkkk everythiiiiiiiiing

 
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:32 PM   #44
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YES, THAT

 
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:35 PM   #45
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do you know the secret to that? to finding value and meaning in things that won't disappear on you?
the answer is no i don't know the secret but i dont know if you're asking the right question either

i am not the same as you; but much of my problem was purely biochemical. both from drug use and lack of helpful medication

value and meaning change all the time, don't they? maybe it's coming to terms with that that's really the 'secret'?

i dont know i just hope you can find what you are looking for

 
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Old 10-31-2012, 12:37 AM   #46
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thank you ladies, no point to keep whining I guess =]

 
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Old 10-31-2012, 12:38 AM   #47
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you know what helps? new conversations and new male attention

 
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:56 AM   #48
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you should watch some MLP Friendship is Magic
what the hell, i thought this was a real movie recommendation

 
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I'm sorry, but I don't (hope you feel better).
First posting about meth, then your stashbox, then "drugs are not a problem, I only shot heroin xy times"...blah. You feel like shit? Good for you. Maybe you need to hit rock-bottom to wake up.

Also you don't spend money on a therapy but on trippin? Sure, it's all depression, nothing to do with the way you keep fucking up your body.
I trip for free, and more and more I've been creating the shit in the first place

 
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Old 10-31-2012, 02:07 AM   #50
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Who gives you heroin, meth and "monster weed" for free?

 
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Old 10-31-2012, 02:20 AM   #51
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My guess would be boys who think she's hot.

 
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Old 10-31-2012, 02:26 AM   #52
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Who gives you heroin, meth and "monster weed" for free?
tripping is referring to psychedelics... however what do you mean by make, ilp? extracting DMT? are you actually doing chemistry? ... maybe growing shrooms? don't you have a lot of 2C-x drugs?

 
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Old 10-31-2012, 02:54 AM   #54
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My point was she is spending money on drugs instead of therapy. If she gets heroin and meth for free as well, it's even worse. Who the fuck would give that to a girl with obvious health issues? And somehow the she-is-hot-theory doesn't work. I don't have to buy meth to fuck someone.

 
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:03 AM   #55
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and she's so proud of herself, too. ol' nasty ass. and you all give her the attention she wants... especially reprise.

 
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Old 10-31-2012, 12:30 PM   #56
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Let's all ignore her and call her nasty. That'll show her.

 
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:20 PM   #57
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and she's so proud of herself, too. ol' nasty ass. and you all give her the attention she wants... especially reprise.
i respect your opinion but if this is "all the attention she wants" then her standard is pretty low.

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Let's all ignore her and call her nasty. That'll show her.
seriously

 
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:07 PM   #58
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Who gives you heroin, meth and "monster weed" for free?
I live in a generous neighborhood, we have a communal mindset.


Honestly, high people give me these things. Have you ever been up for days alone? Not fun. I'm a willing accomplice I guess.

 
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Let's all ignore her and call her nasty. That'll show her.


ignoring her would be just fine. her 'lol oh well' attitude whenever anyone expresses concern is what's nasty.

 
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lol @ recreational heroin use

 
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