what the fuck

[reprise85]

[TuralyonW3]

Lots of old white rock stars are republicans because of taxes


Oh and stupidity

[Order 66]

the way i see it is, you cant spend money you dont have. its not about how much you can take but simple common sense

[hnibos]

Would you look at that.

[hnibos]

Just look at it

[The Omega Concern]

http://rense.com/1.imagesH/obamamasksplash.jpg

weeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE are never ever everrrrrrr

[MyOneAndOnly]

Kid Rock

Alice Cooper

Dave Mustaine

Every living member of AC/DC

[vixnix]

Maybe it's an act of sacrifice in a way, they're voting to maintain the society they grew up in, so that future generations of privileged North American youths will have something to rebel against. You know, at the expense of their personal reputation. Not that they had much to protect. Ok. Forget I said anything.

[MyOneAndOnly]

conservatism is a way for the rich to justify their incredible luck by giving themselves all the credit. it doesn't matter if they're running a business, born rich or one of the handful of rock stars that managed to get wealthy off the recording industry. same shit different assholes

[vixnix]

OMG meritocracy Scotty, look it up. We get what we deserve! If you want to be rich just be good at something or work really hard or both, and make money that way!

[reprise85]

im really good at confusing people can i get paid for that

[reprise85]

its depressing that i dont have any really skills at this age. she had so much potential yada yada

[The Omega Concern]

originally posted by scottythelostlib:

conservatism is a way for the rich to justify their incredible luck by giving themselves all the credit. it doesn't matter if they're running a business, born rich or one of the handful of rock stars that managed to get wealthy off the recording industry. same shit different assholes

Here's the Obama phone lady:






Her voice is Gold. And i do mean priceless. it's a rare talent actually and has all the potential to manifest a voice-over career for someone. however, as you can see by generations of brainwashing by the fucked up-dumbass logic held by libs like scotty here, this woman's instinct is to be dependent. On the government no less. good lorrrd, its sad really.

But with the philosophy I just quoted, Libs like Scotty would rather she become dust in the wind and a statistic to use against 'conservative rich people', as opposed to her actualizing her talent into an effort for a richer life...and more money.

[redbreegull]

you're a privileged, oblivious ayn rand shithead just like the people scotty is talking about. you'll do whatever you have to in order to avoid the cognitive dissonance which would come with admitting you are just a lucky fuckstick who should be more kind and giving to the less fortunate.

the majority of people on planet earth do backbreaking work their whole lives and die dirt poor

[The Omega Concern]

which is why America is such a jewel and the constitution and bill of rights the key to helping the most people break out of tyrannical bondage through the ages. Sorry your pathetic public education brainwashed you into becoming a marxist clone, preconditioning you to make broad assumptions about things and people you don't know, especially if successful.

you're a privileged, oblivious ayn rand shithead just like the people scotty is talking about. you'll do whatever you have to in order to avoid the cognitive dissonance which would come with admitting you are just a lucky fuckstick who should be more kind and giving to the less fortunate.

You talking to me? lol. you don't know me, so why say something like this and risk looking ignora...oh wait, It's your condition. I get that, but do you!

[MyOneAndOnly]

American Exceptionalism is a cruel joke.

kind of sad that libtards mouth the same cruel nonsense as the wingnuts. Goes to show what sheeple they all are, following Ron Paul back into the Republicon voting booth.

[The Omega Concern]

"American Exceptionalism is a cruel joke"


nice phrase. but what does it mean? I don't know because you don't elaborate, you just throw out a catch phrase and deem it a philosophy unto itself. It's not. To me, the phrase is a simple observation that, for a variety of reasons, non-royal bloodlines have had an honest chance to prosper in America whereas prior to this country being around, those opportunities for upward mobility of the poor were stifled by the overtaxation of bloated regimes.

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

you're a privileged, oblivious ayn rand shithead just like the people scotty is talking about. you'll do whatever you have to in order to avoid the cognitive dissonance which would come with admitting you are just a lucky fuckstick who should be more kind and giving to the less fortunate.

the majority of people on planet earth do backbreaking work their whole lives and die dirt poor

you do realize though that everything you said here has nothing to do with government or politics

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

you do realize though that everything you said here has nothing to do with government or politics

man you don't even know what's up

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

man you don't even know what's up

Your suggestion that *he* should be giving more to the less fortunate doesn't need to involve the government taking his money by force and giving it wherever they please.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

which is why America is such a jewel and the constitution and bill of rights the key to helping the most people break out of tyrannical bondage through the ages. Sorry your pathetic public education brainwashed you into becoming a marxist clone, preconditioning you to make broad assumptions about things and people you don't know, especially if successful.

You talking to me? lol. you don't know me, so why say something like this and risk looking ignora...oh wait, It's your condition. I get that, but do you!

you're wasting time on netphoria, so I think I know enough about you to conclude that you are a privileged, materially endowed individual. Nothing innate about America or its form of government has allowed for the rise of a comfortable middle class. Class makeup changed very little from the transition from British rule to autonomy. The American Revolution was led by the elite, for elite interests. The elevation of the masses out of squalor and abject poverty in the US was achieved by the blood, sweat, and tears of working men, women, and children who organized in the face of murderous super corporations and industry barons who would omit no form of cruelty against human beings in order to turn a buck. Meaningful labor reform and the rich scooting over to make room for an affluent middle class did not happen until the late 19th century, after Marxism had the capitalists shaking in their boots.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

Your suggestion that *he* should be giving more to the less fortunate doesn't need to involve the government taking his money by force and giving it wherever they please.

I'm making an indictment of his worldview Nimrod, I know these things are a bit abstract for you, you might want to step out for a bit and come back later

[vixnix]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

"American Exceptionalism is a cruel joke"


nice phrase. but what does it mean? I don't know because you don't elaborate, you just throw out a catch phrase and deem it a philosophy unto itself. It's not. To me, the phrase is a simple observation that, for a variety of reasons, non-royal bloodlines have had an honest chance to prosper in America whereas prior to this country being around, those opportunities for upward mobility of the poor were stifled by the overtaxation of bloated regimes.

Wow so which non-public schools conditioned you into believing this bizarre version of history?

[redbreegull]

it's just blatantly, blatantly false to believe that lower taxes resulted in the relatively cushy existence of middle class America. The comfortable middle class really only evolved in the post-Civil War era and had nothing to do with taxes, it had to do with social reformers and common people ripping power out of the hands of the rich capitalist class and screaming into the face of government until it afforded them some protection. Omega concern doesn't know fuck all about history and he is inventing his own frames and his own narratives for american history which are not supported at all by anything outside ideology and magical thinking

[The Omega Concern]

you're wasting time on netphoria, so I think I know enough about you to conclude that you are a privileged, materially endowed individual.

Completely presumptuous so as to be laughable and setting the standard that people who spend time on the internet are "materially endowed"...what's your standard redbree? 3rd world peasants?

Nothing innate about America or its form of government has allowed for the rise of a comfortable middle class.

There are these two oceans that do flank the east and west. Those logistics have helped and is innate to America.

Class makeup changed very little from the transition from British rule to autonomy.

What time period you alluding to? These things take generations to unfold.

The American Revolution was led by the elite, for elite interests.

again, not specific. Define elite and their elite interests and that those interest are separate from the interest of the masses. It would have to ******* the bill of rights which is what allowed the masses too elevate their condition

The elevation of the masses out of squalor and abject poverty in the US was achieved by the blood, sweat, and tears of working men, women, and children who organized in the face of murderous super corporations and industry barons who would omit no form of cruelty against human beings in order to turn a buck.

They did so under the protective rule of the 1st amendment which allows for people to organize without getting arrested. Not to mention the 2nd amendment which restricted the state to align with the barons which would have been a redo of the old british rule: being taxed without being represented and no recourse against the kingdom because they have all the weapons.

Meaningful labor reform and the rich scooting over to make room for an affluent middle class did not happen until the late 19th century, after Marxism had the capitalists shaking in their boots.

really? Nothing to do with the industrial revolution or how this time period was all before the central banking cartel created the fraudulent Federal Reserve and started manipulating fiat currency to their favor ever since?

A rich, affluent, privileged Jew from Russia, with academic lawyer parents by the name of Marx, created it all eh? If not for him, by golly, people would have never figured out they were getting screwed over by predatory capitalist/monopolist who are fundamentally no different than marxist who wish no competition to their ideas. That's why they fashion dictatorships.

[The Omega Concern]

originally posted by vixnix:

Wow so which non-public schools conditioned you into believing this bizarre version of history?

by "bizarre version of history"...you are referring to my cynicism about the statement "American Exceptionalism is a cruel joke" .


So, If I don't believe that statement, that makes me a believer in a bizarre version of history. Do you realize this is how you're framing your point here?

[duovamp]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

Your suggestion that *he* should be giving more to the less fortunate doesn't need to involve the government taking his money by force and giving it wherever they please.

And governments just spontaneously appear. Nobody elects or empowers them. They just pop up like that, take the money, and run.

[The Omega Concern]

duo,

whatever was is history now.

what our elected reps are now are spokespeople for what is more or less the American Corporation, not the nation.

It didn't happen overnight, but it has happened. So, in effect, yes, we have people popping up out of nowhere abandoning civil liberties in the name of higher governmental control, in this case the U.N., with the NWO faction of it emitting its pulse from The Hague.

Complicit or not, they haven't done shit to the crooks who have taken trillions in the form of the bailouts, easily the biggest financial scam in human history. Those are the broad strokes of it, the rest is in the details.

[duovamp]

Then stop voting for corporate scumbags.


Rmoney 2012.