Yeah this could be pretty badass

[noyen]

Originally Posted by pavementtune

Did you watch the original or the US remake of Funny Games? I think the original is way better. Benny's Video isn't bad either.

i saw both versions, and can appreciate both. i prefer the latter US version. like graveflower mentioned it was the same director. i like michael pitt a lot. i was also disappointed at the lack of naomi watts pink bits, because she is pure joy to look at in a misogynistic way. haneke is kind of a douchebag from interviews i've read with him, but i like the weird fuckers anyway.

[noyen]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

I kinda wanna say Inside but that might qualify as some straight up torture porn unless you really wanna give it the benefit of the doubt.

i'll have to check inside out. thanks, yo.

[noyen]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

Irreversible is worthless misogynistic, homophobic, sadistic, bullshit masturbation. No one should watch that movie.

Martyrs is great. Antichrist is... maybe kinda great but also misogynistic, imo.

i wouldn't really go that far. it's art. it's uncomfortable. it's brutal. but i don't think it's promoting any of those things you mention intentionally, though the characters in the movie definitely do act out in such ways. there are worse movies made by disney, imo. i don't see how anyone could masturbate to the movie. it's horrific. i think gaspar noe is one of those people who purposeful tries to make things unwatchable. the scene with the dude getting smashed in the face was so brutal. it's about vengeance and it's implications. noe has gone on to say he even appears in the movie, masturbating to gay porn to make the statement that he is not superior to gays. it's just a cruel movie. i understand the controversy around the movie, but i just don't agree with shoving it in a corner and saying it's of no use. bellucci's rape scene was the most realistic portrayal of rape ive seen since jody foster in the accused. without going into detail, i have been on the receiving end of abuse and that was like a PSA announcement of "this is what it looks like, recreated in a safe environment when no one really got hurt". i don't blame anyone for not being able to handle it or not having the means of processing such brutality. it definitely isn't for everyone, but i admire the movie for it being almost unwatchable.

antichrist bordered on silly to me. it was kind of hard to take seriously. maybe it was the dafoe factor.

i wish more torture flicks were as intelligent as martyrs was. i finally saw the unrated version which was sweet.

[noyen]

Originally Posted by pavementtune

Has anyone seen 120 Days of Sodom? I tried several times to watch it, but after an hour I just can't take it anymore. I've never seen anything like that.

yeah, it's pretty... weird. the fact that the book was turned into a movie was kind of weird to begin with. for it's time, it was pretty bold. i guess there are quite a few different versions of it. another one of those movies showing the brutality and ugliness that has happened/happens all the time.

[noyen]

Originally Posted by pavementtune

Haneke a douchebag? Maybe, I had him as a prof, he is certainly pretty strange.
I loved The Piano Teacher.

yeah, i think he comes off pretty pretentious in his statements and interviews, hence the douche remark. but if you know him on a personal level being your professor i really don't know the guy so i don't know. film school in itself seems pretty pretentious.

[pavementtune]

Wut? Different versions? I was talking about Pasolini's movie from 1976, the one that was forbidden for 15 years or something. There are other movies as well? Oh no, I guess one of those is more than enough for me. Only 10 minutes in, and I want to puke.

[D.]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

Irreversible is worthless misogynistic, homophobic, sadistic, bullshit masturbation. No one should watch that movie.

The only thing I remember is the rape in the tunnel and the fire extinguisher. The latter scene especially made me sick and still sticks with me to this day.

Originally Posted by pavementtune

Did you watch the original or the US remake of Funny Games? I think the original is way better. Benny's Video isn't bad either.

I liked both Funny Games equally. :\

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by noyen

i wouldn't really go that far. it's art. it's uncomfortable. it's brutal. but i don't think it's promoting any of those things you mention intentionally, though the characters in the movie definitely do act out in such ways. there are worse movies made by disney, imo. i don't see how anyone could masturbate to the movie. it's horrific. i think gaspar noe is one of those people who purposeful tries to make things unwatchable. the scene with the dude getting smashed in the face was so brutal. it's about vengeance and it's implications. noe has gone on to say he even appears in the movie, masturbating to gay porn to make the statement that he is not superior to gays. it's just a cruel movie. i understand the controversy around the movie, but i just don't agree with shoving it in a corner and saying it's of no use. bellucci's rape scene was the most realistic portrayal of rape ive seen since jody foster in the accused. without going into detail, i have been on the receiving end of abuse and that was like a PSA announcement of "this is what it looks like, recreated in a safe environment when no one really got hurt". i don't blame anyone for not being able to handle it or not having the means of processing such brutality. it definitely isn't for everyone, but i admire the movie for it being almost unwatchable.

antichrist bordered on silly to me. it was kind of hard to take seriously. maybe it was the dafoe factor.

i wish more torture flicks were as intelligent as martyrs was. i finally saw the unrated version which was sweet.

lol i meant it was masturbation on the part of the filmmaker. i can understand the serious worth of the rape scene, believe it or not. but the rest of the movie fails it, imo.

[noyen]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

lol i meant it was masturbation on the part of the filmmaker. i can understand the serious worth of the rape scene, believe it or not. but the rest of the movie fails it, imo.

hah, well i get ya either way. no dispute, gaspar noe makes films purely for his own gratification and would probably agree that it is all for his own satisfaction. he seems to revel in displeasing people as well. i kind of like his attitude about it. i would highly recommend 'enter the void' if you haven't seen it yet. i find it beautiful and surreal and only mildly disturbing. irreversible is too bleak to really recommend anyone watch it other than for the shock value. no replay value there either.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by noyen

hah, well i get ya either way. no dispute, gaspar noe makes films purely for his own gratification and would probably agree that it is all for his own satisfaction. he seems to revel in displeasing people as well. i kind of like his attitude about it. i would highly recommend 'enter the void' if you haven't seen it yet. i find it beautiful and surreal and only mildly disturbing. irreversible is too bleak to really recommend anyone watch it other than for the shock value. no replay value there either.

i dunno, i watched the trailer and i just got the impression i would want to throw up. but i suppose i can give it a shot.

i'm surprised you thought antichrist was no good. i mean i guess i'm not. i just thought it had more... to say than irreversible. but tbh i really think the homophobia (not the exactly right word but you know what i mean) at the beginning turned me off immediately. and nothing he or anyone else says will make me think that's not what that was.

[noyen]

i thought antichrist was okay. it was just sillier to me, and not as shocking as i really wanted it to be. i did like it though! there are just some of the more serious moments of the movie that i ended up giggling at, which i think was the opposite reaction that von trier was looking to provoke.

enter the void is definitely dizzying and has some crazy camera shots that make me still wonder how he pulled off. it is a druggy/hazy movie for sure.

i think that kind of homophobic attitude does exist, but i don't think portraying it in a film is necessarily glamorizing it or promoting it. that's all i'm really saying. there is definitely homophobic and misogyny and straight up vile disgusting behavior in it. i don't think his films promote or advocate hate or encourage that kind of behavior at all. i really think it's for shock value and the same as gangster rap artists using the excuse about "we're just talking about what goes on in the street". though the rap analogy is rather weak because we all know those dudes live that shit for the most part.

if films on ugly subject matters are approached, don't you think a director that gives you the blood, guts and all approach is being more honest and unflinching than being protected from the realities of a situation? if i see something about on hitler, for instance, i want to be shocked that he was quite human and normal in some regards along with all the unthinkable shit he did without any censorship. i know there's a difference between doing a documentary on hitler and a straight piece of eye-candy-shock-fiction but i like the uncensored artist. i wanna see the cock. i wanna see the cum shot. i want to see someone get hit. i want to hear the word 'cunt'.

i guess that's why i like UFC boxing too.

[vixnix]

I got a lot out of Antichrist but I'm not in a hurry to watch it again.

Also, I'm over torture porn. It's not shocking any more, it's just disgusting. God, enough already.

[noyen]

Originally Posted by vixnix

I got a lot out of Antichrist but I'm not in a hurry to watch it again.

Also, I'm over torture porn. It's not shocking any more, it's just disgusting. God, enough already.

i think everyone feels that way about torture porn. it's been a beaten dead horse. i was surprised to see a hostel 3, let alone a hostel 2. i wonder if there will be a 4th if there isn't already.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by noyen

i thought antichrist was okay. it was just sillier to me, and not as shocking as i really wanted it to be. i did like it though! there are just some of the more serious moments of the movie that i ended up giggling at, which i think was the opposite reaction that von trier was looking to provoke.

hehe, like the fox eating itself while talking?

[noyen]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

hehe, like the fox eating itself while talking?

yes! that shit was fucking wild. the genital torture too i was just laughing like crazy.

[Eulogy]

oof, yeah. i hesitate to recommend inside, but i'm really curious as to what your reaction would be. so watch it and let me know!

[TuralyonW3]

There's actually a fine line between laughter and horror

They're both forms of ecstasy

[vixnix]

Inside was borderline torture porn I reckon. I watched it because wasn't it the same guy that did Haute Tension? Which I really liked. But inside wasn't as interesting I thought.

Glad I'm not the only one over the torture porn, maybe they'll eventually stop making it?

[Trotskilicious]

Haute Tension was okay for a couple reasons but the twist didn't make a lot of sense.

[pavementtune]

Originally Posted by vixnix

Inside was borderline torture porn I reckon. I watched it because wasn't it the same guy that did Haute Tension? Which I really liked. But inside wasn't as interesting I thought.

Glad I'm not the only one over the torture porn, maybe they'll eventually stop making it?

Both French, but different directors.
I assume you guys are talking about the 2007 Inside? The pregnant woman and shitloads of blood? I guess I didn't get that one, cause what exactly is the point of the movie? It's just red?

I don't think we reached the end of torture porn. 40 years of that stuff already, and apparently it sells.

[smashingjj]

Sinister is supposed to be good. Anyone seen it?

[smashingjj]

Originally Posted by pavementtune

Both French, but different directors.
I assume you guys are talking about the 2007 Inside? The pregnant woman and shitloads of blood? I guess I didn't get that one, cause what exactly is the point of the movie? It's just red?

yeah, i had the same feeling. although i enjoyed parts of it. like out of the blue there was a zombie, which was ridiculous but had me laughing.

do you like to rub your big belly?

i like tyo touch mine and rub my tits and stuff
mmm

[butthurt]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb...xrfdo2_500.gif

yeah that's real sweet right there

[butthurt]

:lick:

[smashingjj]

I Saw The Devil was really good too.

Now for Ichi the Killer.