LOL DAE REDDIT

[Eulogy]

it's not taking "justice" into your own hands. it's beating a pervert at his own disgusting game and making him pay for it socially. which is the only way we (maybe) have.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by duovamp

Hmmm, I don't know if you can say the ends justify the means here, almost entirely because of the slippery slope argument. If I don't like what someone does legally, how empowered am I to hurt them for it, beyond turning them over to the authorities?

what the fuck are you talking about? no one got turned in to any authorities. he lost his job because he is a fucking perverted monster. you don't get to hide that shit on the internet.

[exactlythesame]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

yeah and the people that find what someone does utterly reprehensible have the right to out you for being a disgusting fucking pervert. why is his right to "anonymity" more important than the underage girls' right not to have their pictures plastered all over reddit?

you goddamn creep.

the sub got removed and rightly so. reddit's admins did their part in making sure they stayed clear of this ridiculous, bullshit drama and the potential legal action that might have come their way (the sub is hosted on their servers after all.)

what i disagreed with is gawker stooping to VA's level by stretching their legal rights in posting his information. that. is. all.

plus, you make yourself look ridiculous when you close every post with a demeaning descriptor of your opponent. try harder.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by exactlythesame

what i disagreed with is gawker stooping to VA's level by stretching their legal rights in posting his information. that. is. all.

so outing a pervert who surreptitiously posts pictures of underage girls so perverts can jack off to them is as bad as surreptitiously posting pictures of underage girls so perverts can jack off to them?

pull your head out of your ass.

[duovamp]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

what the fuck are you talking about? no one got turned in to any authorities. he lost his job because he is a fucking perverted monster. you don't get to hide that shit on the internet.

That's exactly what I am saying.

[Eulogy]

and they didn't "stretch their legal rights" by posting his info. if anyone "stretched legal rights" it was the pervert who posted pictures of underage girls for the purpose of arousing a prurient interest on a fucking website.

my god this is not complicated.

[exactlythesame]

"stretching their legal rights" =! direct equivalency

learn to logic

[TuralyonW3]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

why is his right to "anonymity" more important than the underage girls' right not to have their pictures plastered all over reddit?.

Right

It's not like gawker made all reddit posters names public

They legally outed this specific guy for these specific actions

If you think this guy losing his job is worse the then the pics being posted then that's your opinion but it's really not relevant to the debate on a technical level

[Eulogy]

and the sub didn't get removed until it was clear he was going to be outed. reddit is basically a microcosm of the entire internet so i do not blame them as a whole but holy shit the defenders of this guy are disgusting. absolutely fucking disgusting. and it makes reddit seem like a cult when everyone jumps to his defense.

[exactlythesame]

i think they're both shitty in different ways but you get what's coming to you i suppose, at the very end of the day

see how much easier it is for me to talk to someone not on a goddamn soapbox, eulogy?

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by exactlythesame

"stretching their legal rights" =! direct equivalency

learn to logic

take your own goddamn advice. jesus. you're embarrassing.

[exactlythesame]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

and the sub didn't get removed until it was clear he was going to be outed. reddit is basically a microcosm of the entire internet so i do not blame them as a whole but holy shit the defenders of this guy are disgusting. absolutely fucking disgusting. and it makes reddit seem like a cult when everyone jumps to his defense.

reddit is a cult

yes

[exactlythesame]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

take your own goddamn advice. jesus. you're embarrassing.

lol only you could schadenfreude your way out of an argument

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by exactlythesame

i think they're both shitty in different ways but you get what's coming to you i suppose, at the very end of the day

see how much easier it is for me to talk to someone not on a goddamn soapbox, eulogy?

well it's not so easy to talk to people defending such a horrendous pervert who takes pictures of underage girls unknowingly and posts them on the internet so other perverts can jack off to them.

[TuralyonW3]

Originally Posted by exactlythesame

the sub got removed and rightly so. reddit's admins did their part in making sure they stayed clear of this ridiculous, bullshit drama and the potential legal action that might have come their way (the sub is hosted on their servers after all.)

what i disagreed with is gawker stooping to VA's level by stretching their legal rights in posting his information. that. is. all.

plus, you make yourself look ridiculous when you close every post with a demeaning descriptor of your opponent. try harder.

How exactly was gawker stretching it's legal rights. Did you mean to say "utilizing" instead of "stretching"

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by exactlythesame

lol only you could schadenfreude your way out of an argument

pretty sure you don't know what that means

[exactlythesame]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

well it's not so easy to talk to people defending such a horrendous pervert who takes pictures of underage girls unknowingly and posts them on the internet so other perverts can jack off to them.

i'm not defending shit and you can't come up with a single instance of me ever defending creepshots or VA

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by exactlythesame

i'm not defending shit and you can't come up with a single instance of me ever defending creepshots or VA

you are mad about him being outed

that is fucking disgusting.

[exactlythesame]

Originally Posted by TuralyonW3

How exactly was gawker stretching it's legal rights. Did you mean to say "utilizing" instead of "stretching"

stretching was a poor choice of words

there is only utilizing, you're correct

[Eulogy]

if anyone can explain to me why this piece of garbage didn't deserve everything that came to him, i'd love to hear it

try to avoid the words "slippery slope" because there is no more meaningless argument in the history of arguments.

[exactlythesame]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

you are mad about him being outed

that is fucking disgusting.

i'm disappointed and a bit perturbed that a site like gawker would take that into their own hands for easy pageviews (after all, who doesn't hate a "pedophile"!) when it had real world consequences for the person

i guess i take things to their logical end when reasoning on situations like this and i don't want to live in a world where people are "exposed" for any and every little thing someone doesn't like

[duovamp]

Eulogy, where does social justice end and where can it begin? I mean how do you choose to punish people on an supra judicial level? Let the punishment fit the crime? Eye for an eye? What is the acceptable place to start calling people's employers?

Gawker should've gone through the legal system IMO. Guy should probably be in jail or fined or parole or whatever follows his trial by jury and ruling by judge. Pretty weird that you wouldn't support that route.

[Eulogy]

jesus fuck. i give up.

if this qualifies as "every little thing that someone doesn't like" then i should really just fucking kill myself.

i hate you all.

[duovamp]

Lots of angry words. We can have a conversation about this issue without that nonsense.

[exactlythesame]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

jesus fuck. i give up.

if this qualifies as "every little thing that someone doesn't like" then i should really just fucking kill myself.

i hate you all.

"to their logical end," i.e. if we accept x, we must accept y

i'm glad you hate me, honestly

[T&T]

really. (was that a mod edit of my post, or was that a system bot edit?)
oh well.
i don't care either way


in other news Anonymous outed Amanda Todd's bully
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...anonymous.html

[TuralyonW3]

Originally Posted by duovamp

Gawker should've gone through the legal system IMO. Guy should probably be in jail or fined or parole or whatever follows his trial by jury and ruling by judge. Pretty weird that you wouldn't support that route.

sorry to be so ad hominem but wow this is dense

We live in America

The legal system is already too clogged up with shit people should handle on their own (which gawker chose to do)

and the guy wasn't doing anything illegal so why the fuck would they pursue legal action

Am I missing something

[duovamp]

So your argument is that the courts are so "clogged" we should take justice into our own hands more?

[exactlythesame]

Originally Posted by duovamp

So your argument is that the courts are so "clogged" we should take justice into our own hands more?

i think he was saying that taking it to court wouldn't have done much of anything

[duovamp]

I won't even ask you to define the parameters of cloggedness and how we as a society know how to recognize that.