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Old 10-15-2012, 09:38 PM   #31
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People like that should be killed for their own good as well as the greater good. A good death, too. Not a painful one. But you know if we're going to put downdogs because they're a danger to children I think we should be doing the same for humans. No trial or anything either. Just go straight to euthanasia. At a vet's office even.

 
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:20 PM   #32
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what is more scary are the smarter predators who would never be stupid enough to post pseudo-child porn on fucking reddit, they'll stick to "real" CP on TOR and IRC and private FTPs and hard copy

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:11 PM   #33
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eulogy, i hate VA as much as the next guy, but doxxing him was low and ended up ruining a good portion of his life (lost his job and insurance for his wife.) he should have forseen some problems coming from the subs he was involved in, but he was primarily a mod, not a contributor so i can see a case being made that he shouldn't have expected such a violent backlash.

doesn't seem like anyone else really visits the website here, then. but this whole drama was highly complex and gawker should be outed for its psuedo reporting bullshit. never has a legitimate news source posted the name and address of a web user because of behavior they don't agree with.

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:14 PM   #34
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so brave
literally this

EDIT: LITERALLY THAT

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:19 PM   #35
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comparing sexual activity between consenting adults to taking pictures of underage girls and posting them without their knowledge

k guy
if it were CP, the admins of reddit have a vested interest in removing it. they have a no tolerance policy on sexual pictures of minors. i don't believe those existed in r/creepshots. any that were there were removed, ironically enough, by violentacrez.

again, not defending his participation as i find the whole idea of r/creepshots or r/beatingwomen as morally repugnant, but there are plenty of things to take issue with without making shit up for accusatory purposes.

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:27 PM   #36
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eulogy, i hate VA as much as the next guy, but doxxing him was low and ended up ruining a good portion of his life (lost his job and insurance for his wife.) he should have forseen some problems coming from the subs he was involved in, but he was primarily a mod, not a contributor so i can see a case being made that he shouldn't have expected such a violent backlash.

doesn't seem like anyone else really visits the website here, then. but this whole drama was highly complex and gawker should be outed for its psuedo reporting bullshit. never has a legitimate news source posted the name and address of a web user because of behavior they don't agree with.

um, no. he contributed heavily. and also had a 19-year-old step-daughter blow him.

he was not just a mod. he was a contributor. and anyway, facilitating the posting of underage girls' pictures without their consent with the purpose of getting perverts off is wrong.

jesus fucking christ.

gawker should be "outed?" they all out themselves. they put their names on their goddamn articles.

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:28 PM   #37
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if it were CP, the admins of reddit have a vested interest in removing it. they have a no tolerance policy on sexual pictures of minors. i don't believe those existed in r/creepshots. any that were there were removed, ironically enough, by violentacrez.

again, not defending his participation as i find the whole idea of r/creepshots or r/beatingwomen as morally repugnant, but there are plenty of things to take issue with without making shit up for accusatory purposes.
the legal definition of obscenity is a lot more malleable than any of you seem to know. i don't necessarily agree with that, but this shit is not "clearly legal." especially when it's pictures of children in public fucking schools.

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:29 PM   #38
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Ruining the life of a guy who moderated forums that encouraged surreptitiously taken pictures of underage girls so perverts could fap to them?

WOW THAT'S SO AWFUL.

jesus the internet is a fucking terrible place.

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:30 PM   #39
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the legal definition of obscenity is a lot more malleable than any of you seem to know. i don't necessarily agree with that, but this shit is not "clearly legal." especially when it's pictures of children in public fucking schools.
where did i say "clearly legal"

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:31 PM   #40
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Ruining the life of a guy who moderated forums that encouraged surreptitiously taken pictures of underage girls so perverts could fap to them?

WOW THAT'S SO AWFUL.

jesus the internet is a fucking terrible place.
your world must be interesting with the sort of vigilante justice being doled out at any and everything you disagree with

let's all live there

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:31 PM   #41
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where did i say "clearly legal"
redbull did. and if it's not clearly legal, then why defend it?

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:32 PM   #42
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um, no. he contributed heavily. and also had a 19-year-old step-daughter blow him.

he was not just a mod. he was a contributor. and anyway, facilitating the posting of underage girls' pictures without their consent with the purpose of getting perverts off is wrong.

jesus fucking christ.

gawker should be "outed?" they all out themselves. they put their names on their goddamn articles.
did you learn everything about VA from chen?

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:32 PM   #43
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redbull did. and if it's not clearly legal, then why defend it?
because it's bullshit to call it black and white when it isn't

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:32 PM   #44
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your world must be interesting with the sort of vigilante justice being doled out at any and everything you disagree with

let's all live there
vigilante justice? did he get arrested?

no.

but if i posted surreptitious pictures of underage girls for the purpose of perverts jerking off to them, i would expect to get fucking fired.

but i don't do that.

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:33 PM   #45
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this is gross.

he is a terrible person and doesn't deserve protection. especially when he didn't try to maintain anonymity. jesus christ you guys. stop having these idiotic and perverted internet idols.

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:34 PM   #46
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because it's bullshit to call it black and white when it isn't
it is black and white!

posting pictures of underage girls without their consent for the purposes of turning on perverts is wrong!

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:35 PM   #47
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vigilante justice? did he get arrested?

no.

but if i posted surreptitious pictures of underage girls for the purpose of perverts jerking off to them, i would expect to get fucking fired.

but i don't do that.
uh, that's a great point that i actually agree with. VA is a giant dick and i dislike him personally for a lot of reasons. but RB is right, it's a slippery slope doxxing people you dislike, even when it's something so morally charged

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:35 PM   #48
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uh, that's a great point that i actually agree with. VA is a giant dick and i dislike him personally for a lot of reasons. but RB is right, it's a slippery slope doxxing people you dislike, even when it's something so morally charged
something so morally charged

like child porn you try to make sure is technically legal

jesus christ

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:35 PM   #49
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this is gross.

he is a terrible person and doesn't deserve protection. especially when he didn't try to maintain anonymity. jesus christ you guys. stop having these idiotic and perverted internet idols.
lol internet idols

coming from a guy using the term "strawman" as an accusation, that's rich

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:36 PM   #50
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lol internet idols

coming from a guy using the term "strawman" as an accusation, that's rich
what the fuck are you talking about

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:37 PM   #51
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something so morally charged

like child porn you try to make sure is technically legal

jesus christ
it turns my stomach but it is not CP, sorry

if you showed those pictures to a lawyer, they couldn't do shit with them

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:37 PM   #52
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what the fuck are you talking about
you just insinuated that VA was my "idol" when i'm clearly not defending him

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:38 PM   #53
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did you learn everything about VA from chen?
also this

please learn more about the situation

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:39 PM   #54
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it turns my stomach but it is not CP, sorry

if you showed those pictures to a lawyer, they couldn't do shit with them
i think i already went over this

obscenity laws are a lot more malleable than you and reddit idiots seem to think. arguments could easily be made.

and i'm not talking about what's legal. i am talking about what is morally repugnant and deserves to get exposed. everything on creepshots should be exposed. anyone who posted anything on that should be exposed. for being a gross fucking (but still legal!) perverted asshole fuckhead.

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:41 PM   #55
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lol let's dox everyone who doesn't follow our morals

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:41 PM   #56
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also this

please learn more about the situation
i know enough. if you think i'm wrong, tell me why.

creepshots is horrendous and should not exist. same as plenty of other subreddits. i have no sympathy for these fucking people and i think it's disgusting that anyone would in the name of internet anonymity.

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:43 PM   #57
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lol let's dox everyone who doesn't follow our morals
because surreptitiously taking pictures of underage girls and posting them so perverts can masturbate to them isn't immoral

you and redbull can go have your reddit circle jerk. i want to expose the gross fucking people that do this shit. not to governmental punishment, but to social punishment. because they obviously deserve it.

holy shit.

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:43 PM   #58
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i don't want it to exist either

holy fuck, would you read

but gawker's move was shitty and there were better ways to go about it. it wasn't an expose on reddit, it was an expose on VA

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:44 PM   #59
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why don't they dox all the other major contributors to that sub

 
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:45 PM   #60
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in fact, dox every person who's ever done something that doesn't match eulogy's morals

social outcast them all

 
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