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Old 10-07-2012, 12:15 PM   #151
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"dating" per se is awful to me because it sets up men and women to lock into the predetermined hetero roles which seems to make people act completely idiotic and it's off-putting.
Just sounds to me like you're dating the wrong guys

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:20 PM   #152
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Because I don't want to hear about it anymore

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:23 PM   #153
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let me put it this way. 99% of heterosexual couples creep me the fuck out

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:24 PM   #154
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Because I don't want to hear about it anymore
so why are you passive aggressively alluding to it? gawd. move along

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:25 PM   #155
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let me put it this way. 99% of heterosexual couples creep me the fuck out
I agree

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:26 PM   #156
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so why are you passive aggressively alluding to it? gawd. move along
I'm asking questions jeez

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:29 PM   #157
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IAmA charmbag

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:31 PM   #158
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Ok so do you want to kill someone when they flirt with you? Or like try hook up with you or whatever? Like I hate when anyone thinks that just because I'm on this planet that I would want them. Yeah so I'm being real here charmbag. Question

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:32 PM   #159
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Sorry I don't mean kill but it really gets me angry

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:33 PM   #160
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Listen I'm asking you for advice here

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:40 PM   #161
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usually yes. somehow it always has undertones (or overtones) of self-entitlement. it seems like as soon as they choose to "go for it" they completely stop seeing you as human and you're just a target or even an obstacle...an obstacle to what they want, which is you (??). so there is automatically some subtle contempt in there too. fucked up

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:44 PM   #162
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I just have certain expectations that are rarely met.
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let me put it this way. 99% of heterosexual couples creep me the fuck out
what and why?

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:49 PM   #163
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usually yes. somehow it always has undertones (or overtones) of self-entitlement. it seems like as soon as they choose to "go for it" they completely stop seeing you as human and you're just a target or even an obstacle...an obstacle to what they want, which is you (??). so there is automatically some subtle contempt in there too. fucked up
This actually explains a lot. My mom even told me once she didn't like this (MALE) person because she got the idea he felt like he was "entitled" to me.

But I don't feel like females ever do this or at least if they "go for it" there isn't the same intent

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:52 PM   #164
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There's this kind of sexuality that is like the only reason you have feelings for someone is if you have bonded deeply with the person. It's not about their looks or achievements or even sex. See but I forgot the name of this but does this sound good to you? This is like what human sexuality would be like if the world was perfect

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 12:57 PM   #165
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Ugh you know what was the worst thing about breaking bad (so far bcuz I'm only on season 3) it was like when skyler and walt were in the kitchen and then he tries to rape her. Rape his pregnant wife. Like throughout the show and all he constantly undermines and lies to her and is an all around dickhead but it is like
It boils down to that. That scene. He's a piece of shit

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:11 PM   #166
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what and why?
for the first one, there is a combination of "feminist"/self-respect reasons and also just personal pickyness. it's staggering how many men are eliminated by the basic criterion "does not watch porn". I also get a strong feeling of condescension from most men. this is extra annoying to me because another qualification is being as smart or hopefully a little smarter than me, and, let's be real, most men aren't. and then they talk to me like I'm a baby. but if that isn't their particular fucked up issue, it's usually that they want me to mommy them. I confess to having a weakness for those kinds of relationships (in general) but it's not attractive, I just feel obligated. I can't deal with someone who doesn't have a certain level of self-confidence, a strong point of view and sense of right and wrong. they probably should value aesthetics too, I don't know why but this seems to matter a lot. then they have to be physically attractive, of course. fortunately I don't have a narrow physical "type" or anything like that but put all of this together and it winds up being pretty narrow overall.

the second part is a really visceral thing. I'm sure under the hood a lot of why I have this gut repulsion has to do with most het relationships being severely distorted by misogyny and women's worship of men and male approval.

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:13 PM   #167
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There's this kind of sexuality that is like the only reason you have feelings for someone is if you have bonded deeply with the person. It's not about their looks or achievements or even sex. See but I forgot the name of this but does this sound good to you? This is like what human sexuality would be like if the world was perfect
is that related to "demisexual" as charmbag already pointed out she was?

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:15 PM   #168
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There's this kind of sexuality that is like the only reason you have feelings for someone is if you have bonded deeply with the person. It's not about their looks or achievements or even sex. See but I forgot the name of this but does this sound good to you? This is like what human sexuality would be like if the world was perfect
I agree with this on some level but I feel like sexuality is kind of inseparable from the physicality of it. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. but what's bad is when sex trumps everything else about life. sexual/romantic relationships are held up as the peak of human existence, like it doesn't get any deeper or more significant or enjoyable than that, which is clearly bullshit.
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Ugh you know what was the worst thing about breaking bad (so far bcuz I'm only on season 3) it was like when skyler and walt were in the kitchen and then he tries to rape her. Rape his pregnant wife. Like throughout the show and all he constantly undermines and lies to her and is an all around dickhead but it is like
It boils down to that. That scene. He's a piece of shit
he's pure evil. what's even worse to me is that the people who watch the show not only don't understand that, but they actually hate Skyler and root for Walt. like I don't want to share a planet with any of these people.

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:15 PM   #169
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Think you posted that a little too soon

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:18 PM   #170
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I agree with this on some level but I feel like sexuality is kind of inseparable from the physicality of it. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. but what's bad is when sex trumps everything else about life. sexual/romantic relationships are held up as the peak of human existence, like it doesn't get any deeper or more significant or enjoyable than that, which is clearly bullshit.

he's pure evil. what's even worse to me is that the people who watch the show not only don't understand that, but they actually hate Skyler and root for Walt. like I don't want to share a planet with any of these people.
Bolding for impact

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:18 PM   #171
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Yeah that's the world. I rly, rly hate it

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:18 PM   #172
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is that related to "demisexual" as charmbag already pointed out she was?
lol. i said demisexual as a joke because these people (basically queer internet social justice warriors) have to put labels on totally typical human behaviors and attitudes in order to maintain special snowflake status. apparently "demisexual" is a term for someone who doesn't really develop sexual attraction without emotional attachment. as opposed to what, hella hella sexual.

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:32 PM   #173
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people who watch the show not only don't understand that, but they actually hate Skyler and root for Walt. like I don't want to share a planet with any of these people.
well she is an extremely unlikable character. though by the end i think more people started sympathizing with her more than walt

i would think you would hate the show altogether because not one female character isnt an idiot. except for that mexican girl jesse hooks up with i guess but she's kind of floating around in the background

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:38 PM   #174
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for the first one, there is a combination of "feminist"/self-respect reasons and also just personal pickyness. … the second part is a really visceral thing. I'm sure under the hood a lot of why I have this gut repulsion has to do with most het relationships being severely distorted by misogyny and women's worship of men and male approval.
thanks. what i'd figured you'd say, but the 99% figure threw me. then again, i would expect to be much less attuned to (subtler) power imbalances in relationships than you, so i suppose that makes sense after all

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:49 PM   #175
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Oh look it's this thread again.

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:37 PM   #176
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Then I went through a very angry New Atheist phase in which I was openly hostile to religion and blamed it for everything, which lasted like 3 years.
No one else thinks this may be indicative of a trend?

Also, what do you do in your daily life to further your ideological objectives? And ultimately, what are your objectives?

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:19 PM   #177
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there are a lot of female idiot characters in the sopranos, that's good.

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:28 PM   #178
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another qualification is being as smart or hopefully a little smarter than me, and, let's be real, most men aren't.
Wow.

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 05:54 PM   #179
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Did you ever have one of those weird troll dolls

 
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Old 10-07-2012, 07:29 PM   #180
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No one else thinks this may be indicative of a trend?

Also, what do you do in your daily life to further your ideological objectives? And ultimately, what are your objectives?
yeah that trend is called human development you little twerp

and i kill men to reach my ideological objective of killing all men

 
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