Austin, TX, a case example of legal disenfranchisement

[Eulogy]

i guess i should have just let you wallow in your ignorance, huh

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

again, why is redistricting a partisan event at the statehouse?

it shouldn't be

but you know, there is kind of a history of racism in this country? so we have the voting rights act to counteract it.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

but this is a perfect example of why we need democratic presidents to elect scotus justices. without section 5 of the voting rights act, they could do whatever the hell they wanted.

well thanks to the electoral college i can't vote for a democrat president so whatever

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

i guess i should have just let you wallow in your ignorance, huh

why do you have to be so smug about it

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

why do you have to be so smug about it

because i tried to give you some good information and you were a complete dickhead about it

[Trotskilicious]

because,

this is the 25th as is



that's approved by the judicial dept.

[Trotskilicious]

right?

[Trotskilicious]

i mean ideally shouldn't austin be a district and the shit around it be separate?

people in lavaca county don't have the same needs, wants and desires as city folk

[Eulogy]

the whole plan was disapproved

whatever is in place for this election is an interim plan. i don't know if that's what you posted or if what you posted was part of the plan that was rejected by the court.

did you even read the links to the articles i posted

[Trotskilicious]

here, 2002, what the 25th used to be in pink



the obviously ludicrous shit was struck down sure

but that thing i posted from the national atlas is how it looks now, not after redistricting.

[Trotskilicious]

ah yes and proof, this is the redistricted congressional map. the one i posted in the op was for the 110th congress, approved by the judiciary.



that's the one they just struck down, in favor of what goodness knows.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

because i tried to give you some good information and you were a complete dickhead about it

because i knew that this

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

was the approved map after the fiasco of the fajita strip district that made the 25th go from east austin to mcallen was struck down

i just was confused temporarily by your googling

[Trotskilicious]

you see the thing above it that clearly says 110th congress? that's 2007 if you're counting at home.

[Trotskilicious]

apparently the austin chronicle has been calling it "the pinwheel" since 2006.

i read the map incorrectly, absolutely.

but in this election, lloyd doggett could lose his seat in congress because he's campaigning outside of his traditional district. sure you can redraw this shit later, but he's not coming back if he loses, and there's a definite possibility of that. i'd assume that's what they were counting on

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

the whole plan was disapproved

i think the most frustrating element is that you find an article after a few minutes of googling, throw your hands up and declare it's all going to be okay even though that original map i posted was what the justice department approved for the 2006 elections after the original plan was struck down

you didn't bother to fact check that you just want to tell me i'm wrong and that the voter rights act works.

[Trotskilicious]

and none of this changes the fact that in 2012, i live in district 25 and i can't vote for doggett.

[Trotskilicious]

where are you now eulogy to concede that while you are correct that the court struck it down, all of this is terribly confusing and they're using the current 2011 map in the interim to await a supreme court ruling that may not go well. as well as the fact that the redrawn maps after the 2001 redistricting cycle maps were struck down were not very fair either?

hello beuller?
?

[Eulogy]

i went for a run and took a shower

[Trotskilicious]

well i did some research and guess what everything's still p. fucked

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

no, you fucking dipshit

most of you either think it's not happening or you're okay with it because "lol it's texas lol"

god damn you fucking suck you're such an idiot

calm the fuck down and stop assuming you know what other people think

the GOP is doing the same thing in every state they control. It' happened here in Michigan too. they took districts that were heavily representative of Detroit and cut them up so new districts would be tempered by white Suburban voters.

We also just had a primary where the GOP colluded with and secretly helped finance a "Democrat" who immediately switched parties after the primary deadline. The GOP primary winner was a sham and stepped down so that now there's no democrat on the ballot in the general election in November. They rigged the Primary!!

classic racist/dirty politics. It's not just Texas. It's anywhere in the country that the GOP controls a state legislature or governorship.

[Trotskilicious]

and it's bananas crazy confusing because it's really hard to find a year by year map of what district elected who

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

classic racis & dirty politics. It's not just Texas. It's anywhere in the country that the GOP controls a state legislature or governorship.

yeah it's just the republican party i'm sure.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

where are you now eulogy to concede that while you are correct that the court struck it down, all of this is terribly confusing and they're using the current 2011 map in the interim to await a supreme court ruling that may not go well. as well as the fact that the redrawn maps after the 2001 redistricting cycle maps were struck down were not very fair either?

hello beuller?
?

also i don't think either of us know what the interim map looks like. it's not the same as the one that was signed by perry and just struck down.

your post was about the current redistricting effort. i thought that's what we were talking about. and if the map you still think was unfair allowed doggett to keep his seat then... it seems like it's ok?

[Trotskilicious]

it's not okay dude. it's not okay!

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

yeah it's just the republican party i'm sure.

the democratic party is not garrymandering districts to disadvantage minority voters.

[MyOneAndOnly]

so yeah, it's the Republican party. Dems respect the voting rights act

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

also i don't think either of us know what the interim map looks like
?

actually i do

this blog was sauced in the nyt article:

http://txredistricting.org/post/3061...-maps-in-place

[Trotskilicious]

“Laws enacted by a legislature elected under an interim map are interim laws, right?”

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

it's not okay dude. it's not okay!

can't get close to the ideal. if a progressive can get elected in it, then it's better than if he or she could not.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

so yeah, it's the Republican party. Dems respect the voting rights act

bullshit, i found four states that had democrat state houses redistricting to their own advantage

you really are a brainwashed cretin