Dear Obama Supporters Who Claim to also be "Left-wing": Please Justify Yourselves

[The Omega Concern]

No philosophy can stand up and be measured within the injustice of not just criminality, but especially those criminals (Lobbyist) who make their sinful doings legal under the law (repeal of Glass-Steagal).

The level of injustice is so beyond thick in this American Empire to get into egg-head esoteric philosophical debates is a waste of time.

but when in Rome...I do think some of you are on to something about revisionist history:

originally posted by Trotskilicious:

but that would be like how libertarians like to revise history to make it seem like the "Wild West" was actually libertarian paradise and pretend like they don't know what range wars are

right...or how Liberals generalize how the Indians were pure and pristine human creatures forgetting the fact they killed each other over territories long before the white man came.


Here's the biggest history revisionism that needs to change TODAY!!!


In the real version of history, the robber barons won and established totalitarian rule. In the false version taught in the West the cabal monopolies and cartels were broken up by democratically elected governments.


If the truth of this history were exposed to the general public, it would probably take an entire generation before the truth of the robber barons to be understood.

[Trotskilicious]

i learned that in college but thanks for your idiot commentary

[The Omega Concern]

No comment on your K-12th brainwash?

[Trotskilicious]

um i think i've already stated that the education system serves as "indoctrination facilities" that teach curriculum as well as government compliance and nationalist sentiment

[Trotskilicious]

they could teach community but not when the culture is still me me me memememmemememmemememem

[The Omega Concern]

Then why didn't you notice you agreed with the statement? got hate?

[jczeroman]

I forgot who it was that said it, but they basically said that we would find it really weird if Walmart owned the whole country and made us salute the walmart logo every day at school, lined the classrooms and textbooks with images of great Walmart CEOs which we all had to learn about, etc...

[Trotskilicious]

it's the future bud!

[sleeper]

Originally Posted by jczeroman

I don't know what I am, in terms of a label (nor do I know exactly what a "left Rothbardian" is - sorry!). If I think over the past fifteen years of my political philosophy, I've probably moved across the spectrum and back - so it's kind of silly to say "I am this" now, especially to such a specific degree, as it will probably nudge again within two months. But the more I learn about the ideological left (not the American "left"), the more I think I agree with at least several of their basic premises. Those value-free aspects of austrianism/rothbardianism should be able to work within any ideology, and I don't find my views changing much there. I don't think my libertarianism is changing anytime soon, but four years in Europe working under one of the most influential Marxist historians left on the planet has certainly modified it.

But in years of shifting ideology what hasn't changed is your unseemly habit of clinging to rigid ideologies in the first place. That's always been your problem, and why it's hard to take you seriously (whether your on the right or, wow, now on the left). Not everyone identifies -- or, more to the point, even feels the need to identify -- with this or that political ideology, but you've been a dyed-in-the-wool radical for them all. And don't think this represents open-mindedness either, it just a capricious narrow-mindedness.

[killtrocity]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

right...or how Liberals generalize how the Indians were pure and pristine human creatures forgetting the fact they killed each other over territories long before the white man came.

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[killtrocity]

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[Order 66]

god if only it werent for super pacs :/

this thing really would be in the bag wouldnt it

[jczeroman]

Originally Posted by sleeper

But in years of shifting ideology what hasn't changed is your unseemly habit of clinging to rigid ideologies in the first place.

What specifically do you mean by "rigid ideology"? What is the difference between consistency in worldview/ideology and rigidity? Moreover why is "rigid ideology" a negative, unless you mean something like "dogmatic ideology" which is perhaps more acceptable, although not automatically so, as something negative.

If by "rigid ideology" you mean "the right" or "the left", I'm pretty sure I explicitly said that I am not saying I am this or that, only that some ideas which are broadly ideologically "left" seem much more palatable to me. I'm not sure how you get this pathological character who runs back and forth from "rigid ideology" to "rigid ideology" as a means of finding identity from the statement which I made out my adoption of some left-wing premises. That seems to be entirely the opposite of what I wrote.

[Order 66]

lol

[killtrocity]

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[TuralyonW3]

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[jczeroman]

I'm not the only crazy one:

http://www.salon.com/2012/02/08/repu...ive_hypocrisy/

[Trotskilicious]

at this point glenn greenwald is too good for that site

[Future Boy]

its better than a republican doing it, real world and all that, etc etc

[cocksure]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

No philosophy can stand up and be measured within the injustice of not just criminality, but especially those criminals (Lobbyist) who make their sinful doings legal under the law (repeal of Glass-Steagal).

wait. you are saying that a philosophy cannot be "measured" (assessed?) within a system of either criminality or legality?

what?

[Trotskilicious]

look dude he's constantly complaining about how business is over-regulated and then in the same paragraph he bitches about the repeal of glass stegal so who fucking cares, just assume he's a troll and move on

[Tchocky]

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Glass-Steagal was one of the few things the government got right.

[Trotskilicious]

how dare you restrict the free market capitalist system

you're working for the satanic shadow government, obv

[Tchocky]

At least, that's what I'm assuming Omega is thinking, because it doesn't make much sense otherwise.

[Future Boy]

this is precious

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2...no-way-in-hell

[Future Boy]

this is the new obamatard thread, expect lots of greenwald.

or not, you know, who's got the energy for this stuff anymore

[The Omega Concern]

Obama Nominates New FBI Head

President Barack Obama nominated James Comey to be the new FBI director Friday, tapping a Bush-era Justice Department official to lead the agency as it grapples with privacy debates over a host of recently exposed investigative tactics.

He takes over for the guy who's been in there since the WEEK BEFORE 9/11/01. Nothing suspicious about that as I recall...uh-emmmm.


He's worked at a hedge-fund, has ties to Wall St...kind of stuff that makes real liberals curse the air when a Republican is choosing the leaders.

But Obama? free pass from the fake liberals.

[The Omega Concern]

Originally Posted by Future Boy

this is the new obamatard thread, expect lots of greenwald.

or not, you know, who's got the energy for this stuff anymore

You see who the criminals are trying to roll at us now for 2016 right?


Jeb and Hillary. LOL.


If these two are the nominees I will publicly chastise anyone who publicly supports either of them. Rolling those two out is just asking for civil war in this country.

[Future Boy]

if anything they're propping up christie, jeb still needs to wait. Or change his name.

[Future Boy]

I used to think that if Hill had won and done the same stuff all the libs that give Obama a pass would be like "omg, the devil, fucking clinton bullshit, blergh" and would be more vocal and less forgiving, and more successful at driving the Admin left/keeping them honest.

Im not really sure anymore.

Like I know we wouldnt have redbreegull blubbering through tears about how obamas latest speech burned all the sins away. But rbg'd probably still just sit there and take it from hilldog.