Amazon clips for Oceania - Page 4

Katy Lied · 05-29-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by paranoid

Man some people get really fucking upset though when someone else doesn't like something as much as they like it.

Agreed. Some people's emotions are riding high on this album. They want a good SP album because albums in general are few and far between so unless they see positive reaction, they will be pissed and maybe second guess their own opinion and feel like they waited 5 years for nothing.

Woody · 05-29-2012, 05:53 PM

I'll reserve judgement but: the same old production mistakes and singing like he's been taught rather than snarling like he does live means this will probably continue the downward spiral. At least we get the Melloncollie release this year. And some of the tracks on Look To The Sky were pretty old school Pumpkins.

scottytheoneand · 05-29-2012, 05:54 PM

i think it's going in both directions. there are people who are praising this as the second coming of SP before they've hear any of the recorded songs in their entirety. that's just as annoying as dismissing it

fuzzyroes · 05-29-2012, 06:03 PM

True it does sound like theres a few stinkers... But songs like Chimera, Inkless and Quasar sound fucking sweet.

Toby · 05-29-2012, 06:03 PM

I like quasar and the 2nd half of the album…but then again samples can be really deceiving.

Eulogy · 05-29-2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Katy Lied

hatephoria

i bet the o-board loves it.

oh my god would you please shut the fuck up

with the obvious caveat that samples can't tell us that much, these sound better than the tbk garbage, for the most part.

but that isn't saying a whole lot.

Esty · 05-29-2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kahlo

From those samples it sounds promising at least - the synth of Violet Rays/Pinwheels especially. I'm quietly optimistic. Drumming doesn't really offend me.

Since Esty hasn't read this thread yet:

"HAHAHA I'LL BE LAUGHING WHEN YOU STUPID FUCKERS HEAR THE ALBUM AND REALISE HOW SHIT IT IS!!"

That sounds nothing like me dickless.

If anything, I would say something like, "most of you will like it at first and grow to hate it like everything else hes released since "SP" came back. Also, I'll call Eulogy a hypocrite and let him know that corgan has yet to issue any kind of apology for the hateful monte like comments he made a while back but feel free to keep giving him your money stupid."

Thats more me.

Esty · 05-29-2012, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rumpkin

If anyone cba downloading:

Eh, at this point its not shocking to hear the low quality, happy happy joy joy bullshit from his lyrics. Im going back to the Beach House album.

Esty · 05-29-2012, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy

oh my god would you please shut the fuck up

with the obvious caveat that samples can't tell us that much, these sound better than the tbk garbage, for the most part.

but that isn't saying a whole lot.

See ya at the next concert Eulogy. They're playing XYU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dustrock · 05-29-2012, 06:25 PM

I think my problem with Byrne is that he's always busy but to my ears, he doesn't use his cymbals or hi-hat as much as he could.

It's lots of chugga-thud.

Crappy samples aside, the production sounds busy and I'm a little worried some cool guitar work will be lost in the mix & keyboards.

stumpycat · 05-29-2012, 06:59 PM

I really, really hate those gooey fucking synths melted all over the top of everything. Way to ruin some interesting guitar work that should be allowed to speak for itself and carry the bulk of the song and melody as has been SP tradition in the past! Why has Billy become so fucking determined to sabotage the very concept of a guitar-driven song for the past decade? This is what made SP legendary, FFS. I'm frustrated at this more than anything else.

TuralyonW3 · 05-29-2012, 07:38 PM

Wow. Dry, blandly sung vocals mixed on top of everything. Billy just doesn't fucking get it. There's a reason Siamese Dream and MCIS made you rich. You used your whiny voice to your advantage.

TuralyonW3 · 05-29-2012, 07:41 PM

I just can't express how much the vox production breaks my balls. This is exactly what I feared. He literally has given up on vocal production.

And he expects this to be the big comeback LOLOLOLOL

Banana · 05-29-2012, 07:51 PM

Clown music.

Clown music all over the place.

GLOWer · 05-29-2012, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TuralyonW3

Wow. Dry, blandly sung vocals mixed on top of everything. Billy just doesn't fucking get it. There's a reason Siamese Dream and MCIS made you rich. You used your whiny voice to your advantage.

good production? thatd be like, reliving the past, man.

Shallowed · 05-29-2012, 07:54 PM

I'm still holding out for the album to be released. I remember when Tarantula was previewed, and the preview was the best part of the song, which was unbeknownst to me. It didn't give the rest of the song a lot of power. Though I suppose that was also owed to the modern approach to mastering it.

bs1933 · 05-29-2012, 08:25 PM

If people don't like it - that's fine. But I think they should be able to come up with their own reason for not liking it. It's almost like there is a contest to hate mike's drumming the most / Billy's vox mixes the most ... It's just become a contest to see who can be the biggest hater. Why bother hanging around? I still do not understand. I think that 90% of the people posting that they hate this and that or the other - have hated everything for the past 2 years that i resurfaced into Pumpkindom online - and clearly many many years before that. Find a new freakin hobby, you will enjoy your life so much more!

As far as not liking Nicole's bass style... I guess that's a matter of personal preference but I always thought D'arcy's bass playing was kind of embarrassing. If you can keep time and move your fingers - you could have her job. She only ever played the root note of any given chord. Basically always. Every song. Don't get me wrong - loved D'arcy and all, but let's be honest about what she was contributing.

Anyway... I think it's promising, and we'll just have to wait and see what really comes out in the wash when we can hear more than a 30 SECOND SAMPLE that is EXTREMELY LOW QUALITY.

scottytheoneand · 05-29-2012, 08:27 PM

Was it Greg Kot who called Zeitgeist a bunch of riffs taken too far?

If I never hear Tarantula again it will be too soon. I can't listen to it anymore. I remember seeing the video for the first time and thinking who in the fuck are all those douche bags? Wtf is going on?

scottytheoneand · 05-29-2012, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bs1933

If people don't like it - that's fine. But I think they should be able to come up with their own reason for not liking it. It's almost like there is a contest to hate mike's drumming the most / Billy's vox mixes the most ... It's just become a contest to see who can be the biggest hater. Why bother hanging around? I still do not understand. I think that 90% of the people posting that they hate this and that or the other - have hated everything for the past 2 years that i resurfaced into Pumpkindom online - and clearly many many years before that. Find a new freakin hobby, you will enjoy your life so much more!

As far as not liking Nicole's bass style... I guess that's a matter of personal preference but I always thought D'arcy's bass playing was kind of embarrassing. If you can keep time and move your fingers - you could have her job. She only ever played the root note of any given chord. Basically always. Every song. Don't get me wrong - loved D'arcy and all, but let's be honest about what she was contributing.

Anyway... I think it's promising, and we'll just have to wait and see what really comes out in the wash when we can hear more than a 30 SECOND SAMPLE that is EXTREMELY LOW QUALITY.

Jesus Christ

reprise85 · 05-29-2012, 08:56 PM

it is low quality so he does have a point there

Reyngel · 05-29-2012, 08:59 PM

Didn't listen to the samples, but the comments here leave pretty little to be desired.

I'll get the album when it comes out, but only because I've picked up everything else over the last 15 years or so. In the end though, I'm probably just that old man who only ever orders the potpie simply because it's been part of his routine for as long as he can remember, despite their possibly being other better options on the menu.

bs1933 · 05-29-2012, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by scottytheoneand

Jesus Christ

Oh fuck off you passive aggressive cunt.

iPumpkin · 05-29-2012, 09:15 PM

RIDE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!

iPumpkin · 05-29-2012, 09:16 PM

Also, the return of the 1000 Billy choir!

Pale Horse does sound excellent though.

paranoid · 05-29-2012, 09:18 PM

It's like zeitgeist with shitty drums.

dustrock · 05-29-2012, 09:26 PM

Nah at least it's not strictly MBC.

Shallowed · 05-29-2012, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by iPumpkin

Also, the return of the 1000 Billy choir!

Fuck.

scottytheoneand · 05-29-2012, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bs1933

Oh fuck off you passive aggressive cunt.

you don't understand passive aggressive and you don't understand the word cunt

Eulogy · 05-29-2012, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bs1933

If people don't like it - that's fine. But I think they should be able to come up with their own reason for not liking it. It's almost like there is a contest to hate mike's drumming the most / Billy's vox mixes the most ... It's just become a contest to see who can be the biggest hater. Why bother hanging around? I still do not understand. I think that 90% of the people posting that they hate this and that or the other - have hated everything for the past 2 years that i resurfaced into Pumpkindom online - and clearly many many years before that. Find a new freakin hobby, you will enjoy your life so much more!

As far as not liking Nicole's bass style... I guess that's a matter of personal preference but I always thought D'arcy's bass playing was kind of embarrassing. If you can keep time and move your fingers - you could have her job. She only ever played the root note of any given chord. Basically always. Every song. Don't get me wrong - loved D'arcy and all, but let's be honest about what she was contributing.

Anyway... I think it's promising, and we'll just have to wait and see what really comes out in the wash when we can hear more than a 30 SECOND SAMPLE that is EXTREMELY LOW QUALITY.

you realize that most of the people who post here don't come here because it's a pumpkins board, right

Gossamer · 05-29-2012, 10:33 PM

30 second clips on amazon is definitely not the way I want to hear this, I can't believe how many of you guys couldn't exercise a tiny bit of control.

To me the worst thing about new SP is the vocal production and if that is still plaguing him at this point then it's a shame but it's just never going to be the same. I'll reserve judgment til I hear the damn thing but argggh it's so frustrating because the music is still good and he can still sing live...but in the studio he doesn't know what he's doing with his vox.

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05-29-2012, 05:53 PM	#92
Woody Ownz Posts: 662	I'll reserve judgement but: the same old production mistakes and singing like he's been taught rather than snarling like he does live means this will probably continue the downward spiral. At least we get the Melloncollie release this year. And some of the tracks on Look To The Sky were pretty old school Pumpkins.

05-29-2012, 05:54 PM	#93
scottytheoneand Mustard Man Location: "You are the poster child for an uninformed brainwashed American" -OmegaConcern Posts: 8,376	i think it's going in both directions. there are people who are praising this as the second coming of SP before they've hear any of the recorded songs in their entirety. that's just as annoying as dismissing it

05-29-2012, 06:03 PM	#94
fuzzyroes Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,089	True it does sound like theres a few stinkers... But songs like Chimera, Inkless and Quasar sound fucking sweet.

05-29-2012, 06:03 PM	#95
Toby Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: the mtns Posts: 43,017	I like quasar and the 2nd half of the album…but then again samples can be really deceiving.

05-29-2012, 06:25 PM	#100
dustrock debunked! Location: Part-alien, part-human, part-robot, part-star-crossed lover and part-mercury filled Posts: 2,002	I think my problem with Byrne is that he's always busy but to my ears, he doesn't use his cymbals or hi-hat as much as he could. It's lots of chugga-thud. Crappy samples aside, the production sounds busy and I'm a little worried some cool guitar work will be lost in the mix & keyboards.

05-29-2012, 06:59 PM	#101
stumpycat Apocalyptic Poster Location: Fort Worth, Texas Posts: 2,842	I really, really hate those gooey fucking synths melted all over the top of everything. Way to ruin some interesting guitar work that should be allowed to speak for itself and carry the bulk of the song and melody as has been SP tradition in the past! Why has Billy become so fucking determined to sabotage the very concept of a guitar-driven song for the past decade? This is what made SP legendary, FFS. I'm frustrated at this more than anything else.

05-29-2012, 07:38 PM	#102
TuralyonW3 Immortal Location: WPB FL Posts: 22,300	Wow. Dry, blandly sung vocals mixed on top of everything. Billy just doesn't fucking get it. There's a reason Siamese Dream and MCIS made you rich. You used your whiny voice to your advantage.

05-29-2012, 07:41 PM	#103
TuralyonW3 Immortal Location: WPB FL Posts: 22,300	I just can't express how much the vox production breaks my balls. This is exactly what I feared. He literally has given up on vocal production. And he expects this to be the big comeback LOLOLOLOL

05-29-2012, 07:51 PM	#104
Banana 4 THE MARE Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 5,766	Clown music. Clown music all over the place.

05-29-2012, 07:54 PM	#106
Shallowed Minion of Satan Location: gagged and bound to a chair in a serial killer's basement but still having a sense of humour about it. Posts: 9,248	I'm still holding out for the album to be released. I remember when Tarantula was previewed, and the preview was the best part of the song, which was unbeknownst to me. It didn't give the rest of the song a lot of power. Though I suppose that was also owed to the modern approach to mastering it.

05-29-2012, 08:25 PM	#107
bs1933 Demi-God Location: The Nasty Posts: 369	If people don't like it - that's fine. But I think they should be able to come up with their own reason for not liking it. It's almost like there is a contest to hate mike's drumming the most / Billy's vox mixes the most ... It's just become a contest to see who can be the biggest hater. Why bother hanging around? I still do not understand. I think that 90% of the people posting that they hate this and that or the other - have hated everything for the past 2 years that i resurfaced into Pumpkindom online - and clearly many many years before that. Find a new freakin hobby, you will enjoy your life so much more! As far as not liking Nicole's bass style... I guess that's a matter of personal preference but I always thought D'arcy's bass playing was kind of embarrassing. If you can keep time and move your fingers - you could have her job. She only ever played the root note of any given chord. Basically always. Every song. Don't get me wrong - loved D'arcy and all, but let's be honest about what she was contributing. Anyway... I think it's promising, and we'll just have to wait and see what really comes out in the wash when we can hear more than a 30 SECOND SAMPLE that is EXTREMELY LOW QUALITY.

05-29-2012, 08:27 PM	#108
scottytheoneand Mustard Man Location: "You are the poster child for an uninformed brainwashed American" -OmegaConcern Posts: 8,376	Was it Greg Kot who called Zeitgeist a bunch of riffs taken too far? If I never hear Tarantula again it will be too soon. I can't listen to it anymore. I remember seeing the video for the first time and thinking who in the fuck are all those douche bags? Wtf is going on?

05-29-2012, 08:56 PM	#110
reprise85 Socialphobic Location: Now, I'm not a professional psychologist, but I am an amateur psychologist. And I think that your spontaneous eye-watering may have something to do with your father. Posts: 14,590	it is low quality so he does have a point there

05-29-2012, 08:59 PM	#111
Reyngel Apocalyptic Poster Location: Seattle Posts: 3,248	Didn't listen to the samples, but the comments here leave pretty little to be desired. I'll get the album when it comes out, but only because I've picked up everything else over the last 15 years or so. In the end though, I'm probably just that old man who only ever orders the potpie simply because it's been part of his routine for as long as he can remember, despite their possibly being other better options on the menu.

05-29-2012, 09:15 PM	#113
iPumpkin Ownz Posts: 646	RIDE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!

05-29-2012, 09:16 PM	#114
iPumpkin Ownz Posts: 646	Also, the return of the 1000 Billy choir! Pale Horse does sound excellent though.

05-29-2012, 09:18 PM	#115
paranoid Apocalyptic Poster Location: up a tree Posts: 4,453	It's like zeitgeist with shitty drums.

05-29-2012, 09:26 PM	#116
dustrock debunked! Location: Part-alien, part-human, part-robot, part-star-crossed lover and part-mercury filled Posts: 2,002	Nah at least it's not strictly MBC.

05-29-2012, 10:33 PM	#120
Gossamer Apocalyptic Poster Location: We got it like three quarters of the way in whilst on vacation last week. Minor success. Unfortunately she is leaving for England in a couple of days. Posts: 3,787	30 second clips on amazon is definitely not the way I want to hear this, I can't believe how many of you guys couldn't exercise a tiny bit of control. To me the worst thing about new SP is the vocal production and if that is still plaguing him at this point then it's a shame but it's just never going to be the same. I'll reserve judgment til I hear the damn thing but argggh it's so frustrating because the music is still good and he can still sing live...but in the studio he doesn't know what he's doing with his vox.