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Old 03-12-2012, 10:58 PM   #31
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Tell us shit head, what is the context here that makes military intervention okay? Because it just seems wrong to send an American client army into a foreign country to shoot child soldiers from an militia that has been impotent for half a decade, around the same time as - big coincidence! - oil reserves are discovered there.
I didn't say I supported military intervention in Uganda. You make a lot of assumptions for someone who is supposed to teach people how to think about things

 
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:22 PM   #32
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You still seem kind of obsessed with the fact I tutor philosophy. How come?

 
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:28 PM   #33
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just interesting to me that someone so negative, militaristic, and hostile in his views could effectively inspire people to learn

 
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Old 03-12-2012, 11:29 PM   #34
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but I was just responding to what seemed to be an assertion by Trots that liberals should either decide to be for all military interventions or against them all

 
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:27 AM   #35
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okay I guess that is true. There may be contexts where military intervention is justified.

Typically not though, and it is pretty much a liberal dictum that if the United States sends troops anywhere it is never justified. I don't see how so many people can change their minds in this case just because of a video.

 
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Old 03-13-2012, 01:32 AM   #36
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okay I guess that is true. There may be contexts where military intervention is justified.

Typically not though, and it is pretty much a liberal dictum that if the United States sends troops anywhere it is never justified. I don't see how so many people can change their minds in this case just because of a video.
I mean, intervention abroad is a classically "liberal" thing to do... until neoconservatism ruined the universe

 
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Old 03-13-2012, 12:45 PM   #37
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http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mo...home_multiline

 
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Old 03-13-2012, 06:39 PM   #38
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redbreegull is going through his post-radical moderate stage

 
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Old 03-14-2012, 03:45 AM   #39
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Oh cool, the Guardian published part of a letter I wrote to them about this

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/r...-2012-reaction

 
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Old 03-14-2012, 03:47 AM   #40
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I mean, intervention abroad is a classically "liberal" thing to do... until neoconservatism ruined the universe
Was it though? Maybe for the US, and for communists during the Civil War in Spain, but when the intervention is clearly motivated by economic self interest it is really weird that a large group of otherwise liberal people can be persuaded to support it because of some dumb video.

 
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Old 03-14-2012, 06:07 AM   #41
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okay I guess that is true. There may be contexts where military intervention is justified.
name one that isn't hitler

 
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Old 03-14-2012, 06:52 AM   #42
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Spanish civil war

 
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Old 03-14-2012, 06:53 AM   #43
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Anyway, when I said there may be contexts I meant it more hypothetically.

 
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:13 AM   #44
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name one that isn't hitler
why would he have to do that

 
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:26 AM   #45
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I wonder if I always post in pairs

 
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:26 AM   #46
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I might look at some old posts to find out

 
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Old 03-14-2012, 03:57 PM   #47
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why would he have to do that
because he is pretty firmly anti-interventionist and it would be interesting?

 
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Old 03-14-2012, 06:43 PM   #48
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why even bother answering that

 
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:32 PM   #49
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The guy who did this video does seem like one of those SXSW poser liberal idiot types -- they regurgitate a certain spectrum of a cause and pass it off as complete understanding and knowledge of the situation in part because they have a bunch of politicians and celebrities that are also behind the cause.

I mean the U.N. has done far worse in Africa than this Kony guy could ever begin to dream about. This whole thing is laughable.

 
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oh wait you're rider

 
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:06 PM   #51
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The guy who did this video does seem like one of those SXSW poser liberal idiot types -- they regurgitate a certain spectrum of a cause and pass it off as complete understanding and knowledge of the situation in part because they have a bunch of politicians and celebrities that are also behind the cause.

I mean the U.N. has done far worse in Africa than this Kony guy could ever begin to dream about. This whole thing is laughable.
In hipster glasses and side parted cool hair.

 
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:11 PM   #52
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btw toc, don't get me going on those hipster liberals that have hitched themselves to the occupy movement, camping out in oaktown, taking shits and pisses in the streets like animals. They quit their jobs, stopped showering, and are currently working on mix tapes for their cause. Let's just say, it's not nice to walk to your car in the parking lot, notice a crowd of the dirty hipsters across the way, looking down by your door and wondering if it wasn't one of them that just took that massive dump you have to step over just to get in your car. Fuck these people and the way they have gone about their cause. A good friend of mine living at Lake Merritt told me about how they are out on a boat now occupying a fucking lake, pissing off the boat and throwing their trash in the water. All this for wall street?

 
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:36 PM   #53
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hipster liberals were the center of the occupy movement haven't you ever heard of adbusters

damn starla don't start talking about hipsters like you know what's up out in montana

 
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we're talking about hipsters way too much

their ticket is punched, wonder who's gonna be cool in the 10s

 
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hopefully fat nerds get a chance

 
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they are out on a boat now occupying a fucking lake,
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:45 PM   #57
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i would like to point that the occupationists were evicted from austin and no one cared

 
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possibly the worst and least influential political "movement" i've ever heard of

 
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Old 03-15-2012, 12:19 AM   #59
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Occupy Uganda and the DRC

 
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:52 AM   #60
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Oh cool, the Guardian published part of a letter I wrote to them about this

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/r...-2012-reaction
which one are you

the guy at edinburgh right

though i hope your name is freddy woodhouse but i'm pretty sure you're scottish

i hope kanye sues the GOOD news site

 
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