Message to MonteLDS

[Machine79]

The likeness is uncanny!

http://www.xhamstercams.com/cam/AlexLady/

[Kahlo]

Les deux lesbiennes surexcitée naturiste sexe la comme?

ooo lar la

[yo soy el mejor]

still pissed about that video

[Kahlo]

Did he make you sign anything?

Either way it's fantastically creepy.

[yo soy el mejor]

nothing. he just recorded me in public, in his home, and in a hotel room and NOTHING!

it is creepy and it ticks me off too.

[Kahlo]

the whole situation just kind of reminds me of this film:

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pu...photo_9321.jpg

Did you mention that he filmed you sleeping or did I make that up?

[yo soy el mejor]

about ten minutes after we met he took a picture of me asleep in his car and then posted it on netphoria.

[Kahlo]

You fell asleep ten minutes after meeting Monte? Either you have a lot of trust in people or he laced your drink or something.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

nsfw






































monty jonathan monte montelds www.crestfallen.com www.monteit.com www.lemonparty.org micropenis stealing for jesus yes on proposition 8 *information technology

[D.]

[yo soy el mejor]

monte really messed us up, huh?!

[Elvis The Fat Years]

Originally Posted by D.

...after he says end of the year. you can't tell me he's not gay.

[yo soy el mejor]

that's called swag, dawg.

[SuckSuckStyle]

holy fuck.

[Raskolnikov]

Originally Posted by Kahlo

Thanks for answering my question.

Do you think it is ethical for Mormons to go through family tress and retrospectively convert dead relatives?

Just read this article from The Washington Post about the whole baptism for the dead thing - thought it was a good read, and worth sharing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...IaVR_blog.html

[reprise85]

First, no one can force acceptance of a religious rite on others after they have died - the very concept of abridging personal agency is anathema to Mormons. In other words, in no way does this practice forcibly “convert” a deceased person to Mormonism. Secondly, Jewish Holocaust victims have been specifically excluded by the church itself from temple baptisms unless there is a direct-line relationship between the Latter-day Saint submitter and the deceased person - a rare occurrence where the Holocaust is concerned. The policy itself is a highly significant and unprecedented gesture of respect to those who gave their lives in the Holocaust.

why isnt this "unprecedented gesture of respect" (of not baptizing after death) granted to everyone?

[null123]

at least they acknowledge that the practice is disrespectful, I guess

[reprise85]

yes they seem to be

[great poster]

funny how monte insults others for being stupid when he himself barely has a grasp on the English language.

[Kahlo]

Originally Posted by Elvis The Fat Years

...after he says end of the year. you can't tell me he's not gay.

It's sweet that Monte follows in the footsteps of his master by not delivering on his project, or stating what year he is going to release it in.

[MyOneAndOnly]

I'm going to honor and respect a few dead mormons, jews and catholics by blaspheming in their name and declaring them atheists in death. that way they won't spend eternity in heaven or get their own planet or whatever.

i think it'll work, since there's no god and they're worm food anyway

[fuzzyroes]

Originally Posted by yo soy el mejor

nothing. he just recorded me in public, in his home, and in a hotel room and NOTHING!

it is creepy and it ticks me off too.

haha bunk. Well atleast you guys got a free trip to San Fran. Thats still pretty bad ass

[Starla]

I think it's interesting that Mormons believe women cannot pass through the veil into heaven without their fathers or husbands to pull them through it. What happens to the woman if she dies before her husband? She has to hang around in death's dimension, just waiting?

I had a Mormon missionary tell me that blacks do not get into their heaven, and, that my peyote church was full of demons.

[D.]

Originally Posted by yo soy el mejor

monte really messed us up, huh?!

PTSD

the worst part is NOT KNOWING

[Cool As Ice Cream]

http://www.cdrlabs.com/forums/never-...eh-t22721.html

[Raskolnikov]

Originally Posted by reprise85

why isnt this "unprecedented gesture of respect" (of not baptizing after death) granted to everyone?

Back to the article - it's all about choice. We're merely doing something so that they have the option to accept the ordinance in the next life, not forcing it upon them. I really don't see that as disrespectful.

Again - if another faith was doing that for my ancestors, it ultimately wouldn't matter to me, because when ya get right down to it, I believe that my faith teaches correctly what happens when ya die. So to the worm food comment - exactly. If we're totally wrong and there's no God, then who cares what those stupid Mormons think they're doing for our ancestors?

But, hey - if we're right - then it's a pretty thoughtful/Christian act, yeah?

[Raskolnikov]

Originally Posted by Starla

I think it's interesting that Mormons believe women cannot pass through the veil into heaven without their fathers or husbands to pull them through it. What happens to the woman if she dies before her husband? She has to hang around in death's dimension, just waiting?

I had a Mormon missionary tell me that blacks do not get into their heaven, and, that my peyote church was full of demons.

To each:

re: The veil thing - We believe that family relationships exist long after this life is over, and as such, there are parts of the afterlife that will involve our family from this one. Without getting into way more afterlife Mormon doctrine than you're interested in hearing about, suffice it to say that she won't be waiting around - there's still work to be done in the afterlife, long before ANYBODY goes through the veil.

re: Missionaries saying stupid things - I did the whole 2 year mission thing and consider myself to be a pretty rational/normal guy. (Again, with the disclaimer that every last one of ya think I'm insane/not normal because I'm Mormon, fully recognize and acknowledge that fact) That said, there are all sorts of 19 year old kids out there spouting off incorrect and downright stupid stuff. Whoever you were talking to definitely falls into that category - the blacks not getting into their heaven thing is total bullshit. As far as the peyote church goes... no right to tell anybody that their faith is incorrect, or full of demons or whatever. It sounds pretty fun to me, surely it's a lot less boring than my church is at times.

[Raskolnikov]

Originally Posted by Cool As Ice Cream

http://www.cdrlabs.com/forums/never-...eh-t22721.html

Man, Monte's great - but absolutely nuts. I've known a lot of weird Mormons, but none as weird as him. Had forgotten a lot of the great details from that post.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Back to the article - it's all about choice. We're merely doing something so that they have the option to accept the ordinance in the next life, not forcing it upon them. I really don't see that as disrespectful.

Again - if another faith was doing that for my ancestors, it ultimately wouldn't matter to me, because when ya get right down to it, I believe that my faith teaches correctly what happens when ya die. So to the worm food comment - exactly. If we're totally wrong and there's no God, then who cares what those stupid Mormons think they're doing for our ancestors?

But, hey - if we're right - then it's a pretty thoughtful/Christian act, yeah?

this is such an incredible rationalization

also why was the mormon church the single largest donor to the prop 8 campaign? that's still a sticking point for me and part of the reason why i'm reluctant to look at someone like you, who appears to be reasonable (despite how batshit i find your religion to be), and just be like "oh well if it works for him then alright." but maybe this is just me being overly stubborn.

don't they have any more important shit to worry about?

[reprise85]

Ultimately you are doing this for your own piece of mind, and for my own piece of mind I would be insulted if you baptised one of my dead relatives. I know you disagree and think it's the truth and you're helping your ancestors or mine or whatever but in my mind it is equivilant.

That article clearly says not doing it for holocaust jews is out of respect. I'd like that same respect, please, and also that for my family - both those who died in concentration camps and those who were in America. What's the difference? Well, I'm assuming it is a PR thing because holocaust survivors are a big group with a lot of support that got on the Mormons for doing this hugely disrespectful thing. It should apply to everyone else too - how do you justify this difference? Why the different standards?