help me understand Jesus

[reprise85]

i really just don't get it. worship your sky monster - okay. but seriously, dude gets born he's god's son but he is also somehow god himself. dies for everyone's sins but isn't god basically just masturbating with jesus because why does he need to punish someone for sins in the first place.

i know at least a couple of you guys are practicing christians. is there some logic besides 'faith' that you guys see?

and yes this thread is srs bsns

[null123]

it was kinda crazy when he got pissed off and started flipping tables over

[null123]

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[reprise85]

he does seem like a bad motherfucker.

[Toast]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h6...4061702554.jpg

[whywontyoulistn]

http://static.someecards.com/someeca...49f82c24c9.jpg

[MyOneAndOnly]

all religions require their adherents to commit to "belief" in silly stories. the single biggest dermining factor for which religion a person identifies with is to whom they are born. if you were born to a Jewish or Muslim family, the claims made by Jesus's followers would seem almost as ridiculous as those of the mormons.

[Mooney]

Originally Posted by Charmbag

it was kinda crazy when he got pissed off and started flipping tables over

yeah, wouldn't that be considered wrath, one of the seven deadly sins? jesus was a sinner and a socialist.

[exactlythesame]

catholicism ≠ all christianity

[hnibos]

You lack the spiritual gene duh. You're just not a complete human being, Erica.

[hnibos]

I mean, it's so incredibly obvious that God is looking out for us. That's why he sent his son. The ultimate sacrifice, to save ourselves from our sins and wretched afterlife. I mean, the Bible is an historically accurate document, and all of this can be found in there.

[exactlythesame]

also, in b4 sleeper

[hnibos]

If you allow yourself to believe in the power of Jesus Christ, then he will believe in you. I seriously don't understand how people don't get this concept...

[28if]

Originally Posted by reprise85

i really just don't get it. worship your sky monster - okay. but seriously, dude gets born he's god's son but he is also somehow god himself. dies for everyone's sins but isn't god basically just masturbating with jesus because why does he need to punish someone for sins in the first place.

i know at least a couple of you guys are practicing christians. is there some logic besides 'faith' that you guys see?

and yes this thread is srs bsns

The Jewish version of God is very authoritarian. The Jewish religion really stresses obedience. Christianity is a deviation/evolution from/of that in its emphasis on forgivness. While the Jewish God fucks your city up 'cause of all the dick-sucking going on, Jesus is like nah guys don't worry about it just say you're sorry and it'll be good.

Christians don't think that Jesus is "somehow God himself." Jesus is a prophet, God is God. I guess that answers your questions kindof.

"Is there some logic behind faith that I see?" Uhhhh, I duno. I am not a big fan of "logic." In certain eastern trains of thought, especially japanese apparently, they speak of/identify multiple logics. In the west we see logic as like... infallible system of reason. If something is logical, it is "true." But I think it might be better to see logic as a kind of personal ideology, like, everyone has their own logic that leads them to the conclusions that are suggested by their experiences? Does that make sense?

[hnibos]

The only thing that's been said in this thread that makes sense is that Jesus saves lives. Period.

[Future Boy]

he's watching you right now, and he's not happy

[whywontyoulistn]

Originally Posted by Future Boy

he's watching you right now, and he's not happy

http://images.cheezburger.com/comple...7169134798.jpg

[Future Boy]

he's like santa, but instead of coal you go to hell.

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by hnibos

The only thing that's been said in this thread that makes sense is that Jesus saves lives. Period.

you're joking. right

[Future Boy]

and there are no reindeer.


edit: that I know of, havent read the bible so they may be in there.

[MyOneAndOnly]

what this thread really needs is a heavy duty troll like Nimrod

[MyOneAndOnly]

cause no religious thread is complete without his sanctimony

[exactlythesame]

Originally Posted by 28if

The Jewish version of God is very authoritarian. The Jewish religion really stresses obedience. Christianity is a deviation/evolution from/of that in its emphasis on forgivness. While the Jewish God fucks your city up 'cause of all the dick-sucking going on, Jesus is like nah guys don't worry about it just say you're sorry and it'll be good.

Christians don't think that Jesus is "somehow God himself." Jesus is a prophet, God is God. I guess that answers your questions kindof.

"Is there some logic behind faith that I see?" Uhhhh, I duno. I am not a big fan of "logic." In certain eastern trains of thought, especially japanese apparently, they speak of/identify multiple logics. In the west we see logic as like... infallible system of reason. If something is logical, it is "true." But I think it might be better to see logic as a kind of personal ideology, like, everyone has their own logic that leads them to the conclusions that are suggested by their experiences? Does that make sense?

you do realize that Jesus said he was God's son, right

[Order 66]

i follow the teachings of jesus, i.e. forgiveness. life's too short to be pissed off at everybody. but i don't believe he was a guy that got murdered and rose from the grave or whatever. i sometimes doubt he was a real person at all

[MyOneAndOnly]

Originally Posted by exactlythesame

you do realize that Jesus said he was God's son, right

actually, you don't know that. there are texts that make a lot of claims as to what the guy supposedly said. but they were written well after his supposed death. hundreds of years after. And by people who told drastically competing versions of his life.

also, besides those texts there is no proof that the guy actually existed. not a single primary source from that time.

it would make a lot more sense to conclude that extremist jewish sects of the time made all that shit up.

[slunken]

christian mysticism is coll

[slunken]

Originally Posted by Order 66

i follow the teachings of jesus, i.e. forgiveness. life's too short to be pissed off at everybody. but i don't believe he was a guy that got murdered and rose from the grave or whatever. i sometimes doubt he was a real person at all

this pretty much ties all religions together. in general the teachings are just very good rules to follow life by. don't kill, don't steal, don't be a dick, etc.

[slunken]

i'm goth and i'm also christian wat do

[Toby]

remember the "with u always" meme?

[null123]

Originally Posted by 28if

Christians don't think that Jesus is "somehow God himself." Jesus is a prophet, God is God. I guess that answers your questions kindof.

this is untrue. the vast majority of Christians view Jesus as divine.