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Gossamer · 10-13-2011, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

Gossamer do you have any scientific journals that make dream reading any more than hocus pocus?

I have taken a pretty incredible graduate level course on the subject, have read a couple of really excellent books on the subject, and have my own experiences facilitating a dream interpretation group to back up my thoughts.

If you don't open up your mind to something how can you expect to reap the rewards?

Gossamer · 10-13-2011, 11:13 PM

Also the Matrix is tight.

Come on!

Trotskilicious · 10-13-2011, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gossamer

I think stylistically Inception is shot very similarly to Mann's stuff (which I also really like) but the actual script is something that Mann would never come close to. Mann likes to regurgitate the same film every few years (srsly as much as I love Heat and Public Enemies they are the same goddamn thing). There is nothing like Inception. I don't understand why you are so averse to dreams and maybe that is one of the main problems right there? You said you don't really get it and that could also be the problem. IDK man.

right i'm not putting mann on a big genius platform, that's space for Scorsese (who is in chrome spell check i might add) and the twisted pretentious gifts of the coens and i dunno, more than a few dead guys.

Mann is a stylist, though, and a top notch one. Nolan isn't and the style of Inception is not really groundbreaking or unusual, it's well done because it was paid for. Nolan's gift has to do with complex story-lines and tricky moral quandaries. He launched his career with a gimmick flick (which is good don't get me wrong) and then landed Batman because they needed a modern movie maker with decent pedigree and a knack for mysteries. Now he's a genius because Heath Ledger blew our minds and the studio pulled for a brain teaser thriller. Ehh.

Trotskilicious · 10-13-2011, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gossamer

I have taken a pretty incredible graduate level course on the subject, have read a couple of really excellent books on the subject, and have my own experiences facilitating a dream interpretation group to back up my thoughts.

If you don't open up your mind to something how can you expect to reap the rewards?

i asked for science though

Banana · 10-13-2011, 11:35 PM

LOL @ thinking Mann is a better director than Nolan

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Says all you need to know about your worth when discussing movies.

Trotskilicious · 10-13-2011, 11:36 PM

seriously i'm assuming that there's no actual real hard core observable science behind "dream study" but i once assumed bed bugs were mythical

Trotskilicious · 10-13-2011, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Banana

LOL @ thinking Mann is a better director than Nolan

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Says all you need to know about your worth when discussing movies.

I'm sure, bro.

Trotskilicious · 10-13-2011, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Graveflower

I also love inception and the matrix

I feel like mr rhino is sliipi g away

i think mr. rhino made a thread about disliking the matrix

Trotskilicious · 10-13-2011, 11:39 PM

to be perfectly honest i thought collateral was well shot and well performed but the story was lacking and public enemies played fast and loose with a lot of facts for no real reason, but again was extremely stylish.

and heat is too long but i still like it.

StuckInVain · 10-14-2011, 02:13 AM

I think you're all forgetting why The Matrix was terrific in the first place: Shiny leather. Those films are a fetishists' wet dream. Style out the wazoo. The first one's great and parts of the second.

I thought Public Enemies was deathly boring. But then, I think Johnny Depp has the same problem that Brad Pitt has: put him in a straight role without a gimmick and he's not that good.

Case in point: Public Enemies, The Tourist, Finding Neverland, Blow (The argument breaks down somewhat for his '90s output)

They both work best as character actors.

To be honest, give Tom Cruise a leading role and he beats them both.

Trotskilicious · 10-14-2011, 02:13 AM

ew gross

Trotskilicious · 10-14-2011, 02:14 AM

blow sucks p bad

StuckInVain · 10-14-2011, 02:16 AM

Eulogy · 10-14-2011, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Gossamer

I have taken a pretty incredible graduate level course on the subject, have read a couple of really excellent books on the subject, and have my own experiences facilitating a dream interpretation group to back up my thoughts.

lololololol

Trotskilicious · 10-14-2011, 02:21 AM

right? I mean i know about history and art and shit but that sounds like hullaballoo.

Eulogy · 10-14-2011, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

Benjamin Button

how's that movie's rep holding up?

i don't think it was ever that good.

the more i think about that movie the more i dislike it. the scene where the two of them are doing it everywhere and then all of the sudden there's a fucking rocket launch or whatever the fuck. wow. hooray for subtlety.

tilda swinton killed her scenes though. saved the movie from being a total failure.

and pitt recovered with tree of life. he was really good in it i thought.

Trotskilicious · 10-14-2011, 02:23 AM

i remember not seeing the movie and trolling a thread about it

Trotskilicious · 10-14-2011, 02:23 AM

see tree of life sounds like my shit

Eulogy · 10-14-2011, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

right? I mean i know about history and art and shit but that sounds like hullaballoo.

i just liked that in response to "where's the science" he says "i took graduate level courses."

there are graduate level courses in like..... i dunno, everything.

Eulogy · 10-14-2011, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

see tree of life sounds like my shit

it sort of pukes all over itself in the last five minutes imo, but still real good.

Trotskilicious · 10-14-2011, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy

i just liked that in response to "where's the science" he says "i took graduate level courses."

there are graduate level courses in like..... i dunno, everything.

haha that is true, and they get more obscure the higher up you go so it basically doesn't mean all that much

i mean i took a senior level class on "The History of the Silk Road" and it was awesome.

Trotskilicious · 10-14-2011, 02:33 AM

i mean shit is thought provoking but psychotherapy i think keeps veering off into conjectural liberal arts land but i dunno, maybe paradoxically it is all hokum but it works

Eulogy · 10-14-2011, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

i mean shit is thought provoking but psychotherapy i think keeps veering off into conjectural liberal arts land but i dunno, maybe paradoxically it is all hokum but it works

i wouldn't base any opinions on psychotherapy on gossamer's posts. no one with a one- or two-year graduate program under his belt is an authoritative expert on anything.

Trotskilicious · 10-14-2011, 02:45 AM

so you're not an expert either

DiscoJon · 10-14-2011, 11:08 AM

Watched Gangs of New York on TV the other night. Still fucking sucks.

Eulogy · 10-14-2011, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

so you're not an expert either

no but i don't claim to be.

Eulogy · 10-14-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DiscoJon

Watched Gangs of New York on TV the other night. Still fucking sucks.

so you sat through a really long movie on tv even though you didn't like it. and if it had commercials, it took even longer.

looks like you lost this round, bro.

DiscoJon · 10-14-2011, 12:07 PM

I ain't your bro, guy.

Dogfighter28 · 10-14-2011, 12:17 PM

Trots you are dead to me after the last two pages

killtrocity · 10-14-2011, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

wait what

matrix is pretty fucking bad, the sequels just really underscore it

"Woah. I know Kung-Fu."

Barffffffff

Are you being serious right now???

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Gossamer Apocalyptic Poster Location: We got it like three quarters of the way in whilst on vacation last week. Minor success. Unfortunately she is leaving for England in a couple of days. Posts: 3,832	Also the Matrix is tight. Come on!

10-13-2011, 11:35 PM	#215
Banana Banned Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 6,373	LOL @ thinking Mann is a better director than Nolan LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Says all you need to know about your worth when discussing movies.

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Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	seriously i'm assuming that there's no actual real hard core observable science behind "dream study" but i once assumed bed bugs were mythical

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Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	to be perfectly honest i thought collateral was well shot and well performed but the story was lacking and public enemies played fast and loose with a lot of facts for no real reason, but again was extremely stylish. and heat is too long but i still like it.

10-14-2011, 02:13 AM	#220
StuckInVain Pledge Posts: 112	I think you're all forgetting why The Matrix was terrific in the first place: Shiny leather. Those films are a fetishists' wet dream. Style out the wazoo. The first one's great and parts of the second. I thought Public Enemies was deathly boring. But then, I think Johnny Depp has the same problem that Brad Pitt has: put him in a straight role without a gimmick and he's not that good. Case in point: Public Enemies, The Tourist, Finding Neverland, Blow (The argument breaks down somewhat for his '90s output) They both work best as character actors. To be honest, give Tom Cruise a leading role and he beats them both.

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Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	ew gross

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Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	blow sucks p bad

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Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	right? I mean i know about history and art and shit but that sounds like hullaballoo.

10-14-2011, 02:23 AM	#227
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	i remember not seeing the movie and trolling a thread about it

10-14-2011, 02:23 AM	#228
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	see tree of life sounds like my shit

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Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	i mean shit is thought provoking but psychotherapy i think keeps veering off into conjectural liberal arts land but i dunno, maybe paradoxically it is all hokum but it works

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Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	so you're not an expert either

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