is it a good idea to get involved in the Libyan civil war?

[28if]

France is blowing some shit up today.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/wo...a.html?_r=1&hp

[Trotskilicious]

i'm glad they are, yes. Qaddafi needs to relinquish power, it's not about being for or against the rebels it's about taking a stand against Qaddafi. And we can accomplish this the same way we did in Serbia, which turned out to be a good thing for that region.

and i'm especially glad it's the french. I was saying for a while, why do you have to wait for us, we are over committed. it's not our shit this time, the French and the Germans should do it because america and Britain were lead into Iraq by a retard cowboy and his dippy british sidekick.

[Order 66]

its a good idea to "get involved" but with extreme caution since many of the rebels are anti american extremists

[Banana]

That's kind of the way revolutions and shit are done. We would have never won ours without the French finally taking their sweet time to get involved and help us out.

[Order 66]

the french go to war? i thought they were all faggy and shit

[Order 66]

obamer is about to give a speech on 'operation: odyssey dawn'

a war, how exciting

[Tchocky]

Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordion.

[ATS]

id say its a bad idea, but a better idea than iraq and afghanistan were

[Banana]

Afghanistan was not a bad idea.

[smashingjj]

uh how the fuck was that not bad

[Order 66]

it wasn't a terrible idea we just shouldn't have taken our eye off the ball with iraq

[Banana]

Basically that.


Al Qaeda was there and attacked us. Had go to in there and fuck them up. Problem is that we didn't make it our main focus and let it drag on long enough and allow them time to migrate over into Pakistan.

[Mo]

"Taken your eye off the ball" - yeah, that's one way to put it..

[Order 66]

most americans with a brain were against it

[Banana]

Ultimately Iraq wasn't a bad war though.

We were able to get those oil fields into the hands of American oil corporations plus we now have a pretty nice sized military hub right there in the middle east and also in the process got rid of a regime that was not one of our allies. It was not a war that was at all about our own personal safety but it will definitely yield long term benefits to our modern day empire.

[Order 66]

Originally Posted by Banana

Ultimately Iraq wasn't a bad war though.

We were able to get those oil fields into the hands of American oil corporations plus we now have a pretty nice sized military hub right there in the middle east and also in the process got rid of a regime that was not one of our allies. It was not a war that was at all about our own personal safety but it will definitely yield long term benefits to our modern day empire.

http://mason.gmu.edu/~wscullio/AriFleischer.jpg

[Order 66]

ah 2003 humor. where does the time go

[cocksure]

yeah operation enduring freedom definitely succeeded in decreasing the chances of something like 9/11 happening again

[Order 66]

to play devils advocate, we probably would've ended up going against saddam at some point anyway. its just that the bush admin went about it in a very very dumb way. the exact opposite of how we're doing with libya right now

[28if]

as banana said the goal was not stopping another 9/11 it was increasing the power of the american military empire.

i'm afraid that the people of libya will be wary of supporting a new government backed by the west. aren't a lot of the opposition fighters islamic radicals? seems like a lot of them will not be down with extensive US/EU intervention. Hopefully we will leave them alone after they get qaddafi out but i'm sure we'll stick around to be repaid for our services (in their oil). just some thoughts.

[exactlythesame]

wrong board

[cork_soaker]

Originally Posted by Order 66

the french go to war? i thought they were all faggy and shit

baguette

[cork_soaker]

baguette

[exactlythesame]

moar like faguette amirite

[Order 66]

stupid french. all gay and shit

[sppunk]

11 cruise missiles, average $2 million a pop. None aimed at the target or his sons.

Great idea. Let's spread the military more thin and eventually get crazy-ass Syria and Hamas involved.

[FoolofaTook]

Originally Posted by Banana

Basically that.


Al Qaeda was there and attacked us. Had go to in there and fuck them up. Problem is that we didn't make it our main focus and let it drag on long enough and allow them time to migrate over into Pakistan.

Al Qaeda is an international organization. Might as well as attack Saudi Arabia and Indonesia by your logic.

[Starla]

no worries... Obama is monitoring the situation.

[Sonic Johnny]

If you don't like Avocados I mean seriously what the fuck is wrong with you.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by 28if

as banana said the goal was not stopping another 9/11 it was increasing the power of the american military empire.

i'm afraid that the people of libya will be wary of supporting a new government backed by the west. aren't a lot of the opposition fighters islamic radicals? seems like a lot of them will not be down with extensive US/EU intervention. Hopefully we will leave them alone after they get qaddafi out but i'm sure we'll stick around to be repaid for our services (in their oil). just some thoughts.

non intervention makes it seem more likely that islamic fundamentalists will eventually take power

if we actually do liberate the country and do not occupy it and leave them to their own devices like Egypt, it should work out. People will not willingly elect and support a more brutal dictatorship than they already had.