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Old 03-15-2011, 07:54 PM   #31
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yes the word liberal is extremely vague and really only represents an arbitrary set of political values appropriated by one of the two major political parties so that only those political parties stay in power.

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 07:55 PM   #32
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oh yeah, fuck arianna huffington.

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 07:58 PM   #33
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poor people need rich people as advocates sometimes otherwise it'd be really easy to pin the freeloader stereotype on the proletariat.

arianna huffington's activities however are a net disservice to those causes. the kennedy's though. they're alright.

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:13 PM   #34
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Liberalism should probably be retired as a word. It meant something to be against the monarchy and church, and that was such a fundamental change in the way things worked that the concept of revolution and liberalization should forever be linked. These yuppie dems are so much a part of the establishment that the idea of "change" doesn't really come to them, so we're stuck in this intolerable loop of decay as they act all pompous and tell people to "be realistic" and pretend like there's nothing to be done other than cast their vote for Democrat Clone #45 and heralding a new dawn in america when black man president gives a gay guy the medal of honor for killing brown people thousands of miles away. Yeah, that's fucking change you can believe in. Eulogy and Debaser are type cases: entrenched in the status quo, they argue on behalf of liberal causes that benefit them specifically; health care, anti-war, gay marriage. But both of them refuse to acknowledge the fundamentally broken nature of the economy, our consumption is unsustainable. For craps sake Debaser even took that as his screen name, what the fuck has he ever debased?

The only real liberals are the free marketeers, I want a planned economy so that does not make me liberal.

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:27 PM   #35
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This is about what's rightfully mine, the screen name "Debaser".

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:28 PM   #36
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Damn. Who was this directed at, Brendan? Haven't had time to browse random threads lately.

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:29 PM   #37
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Nobody in particular I've gone from dumb young revolutionary to cautious moderate back to insane revolutionary in the last 10 years.

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:32 PM   #38
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something about obama's failure and the completely bankrupt nature of this country where we're constantly trying to put the train back on broken tracks to ride it a little further coupled with the apocalyptic feeling of these here times and the fact that most of the time something fundamental about civilization changes every 100 years or so and the fact that i'm just sick of people acting like they have the god-given right to consume as much as possible and because you know everything's a clusterfucking mess and nobody has any solutions because the system has failed and will continue to fail

our consumption is unsustainable
our consumption is unsustainable
our consumption is unsustainable
our consumption is unsustainable
our consumption is unsustainable
our consumption is unsustainable
our consumption is unsustainable
our consumption is unsustainable

capitalism is wrong. there is fixed wealth, it's the materials in the earth.

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:34 PM   #39
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don't you have to, you know, do something before you can call yourself a revolutionary?

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:34 PM   #40
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no, dickhead.

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:35 PM   #41
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goddamn young republicans.

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:35 PM   #42
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I just bought 20 items of shit I don't need on Amazon.com because of this thread.

You know what I'm going to do with it now? Throw it right out.

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:35 PM   #43
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I have closets full of clothes I've never worn, still with the tags on them.

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:35 PM   #44
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CASH FOR CLUNKERS
CASH FOR CLUNKERS
CASH FOR CLUNKERS
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CASH FOR CLUNKERS
CASH FOR CLUNKERS
CASH FOR CLUNKERS

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:36 PM   #45
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Sometimes after I fill up the tank of my car I park it and idle until I have to fill it up again. I leave my car running when I'm at work.

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:36 PM   #46
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voltaire was a revolutionary, he never picked up a gun
adam smith was a revolutionary, he never fought a war
karl marx was a revolutionary, he never shot anyone

Eulogy you sure are an idiot.

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:36 PM   #47
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:37 PM   #48
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I was going to donate to the victims of the Japanese Tsunami but then remembered there's so much Groupon shit I can buy and never get around to using instead.

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:38 PM   #49
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voltaire was a revolutionary, he never picked up a gun
adam smith was a revolutionary, he never fought a war
karl marx was a revolutionary, he never shot anyone

for someone as smart as you, Eulogy you sure are an idiot.
i said "do something," not "pick up a gun, fight a war, or shoot someone."

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:39 PM   #50
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right, you want me to get published first

good rules

bourgeois rules.

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:39 PM   #51
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or have an original idea?

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:40 PM   #52
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the revolution will not be twittered.

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:40 PM   #53
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man do you edit every post you make

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:40 PM   #54
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or have an original idea?
how's this for an original idea: everything's fucked.

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:43 PM   #55
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how's this for an original idea: everything's fucked.
lacking in the originality department.

that much is obvious. a solution would be the original idea that would be helpful here.

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:43 PM   #56
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or you could just sit in a corner by yourself and berate people on the internet about it and call yourself a revolutionary like some self-important windbag

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:45 PM   #57
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eulogy you sure get defensive when you get called on being a privileged silver spoon young republican

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:45 PM   #58
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America hasn't had a good free-market ruler in a while. I truly believe it's time to try it out as we now know socialist-leaning and a corporate-hungry ones sure as fuck don't work.

Free market /= corporate sellout

 
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Old 03-15-2011, 08:46 PM   #59
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yeah that will be a disaster, there's a reason that stuff doesn't happen organically and socialism does.

 
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eulogy you sure get defensive when you get called on being a privileged silver spoon young republican
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