hey libertarian retards

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by hnibos

trots is qualified to be a teacher. dont think he wants to teach at the middle or high school level though.

i don't think a generic liberal arts BA qualifies you to teach in public middle or high schools anywhere.

he could maybe find a job at a crappy private (and probably religious) school though. and make next to nothing.

[hnibos]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

i don't think a generic liberal arts BA qualifies you to teach in public middle or high schools anywhere.

he could maybe find a job at a crappy private (and probably religious) school though. and make next to nothing.

friend from high school graduated with a history degree, not even a minor in education, and hes teaching a history class to 8th grade students. got the job a few months after he graduated. started the school year too, not some mid year replacement. not a bad middle school either.

/anecdotal evidence

[Trotskilicious]

i'd rather smoke dope and have fun with my comrades.

and hnibos you realize this is all on a state-by-state basis right

[hnibos]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

i'd rather smoke dope and have fun with my comrades.

and hnibos you realize this is all on a state-by-state basis right

sure do but florida and texas?

[hnibos]

i understand if connecticut has high standards but florida and texas?

[Trotskilicious]

you cannot teach in a texas school* unless you have a teacher certification, which I already said takes about 2 years and involves a very demanding unpaid internship.

I really wish you guys would stop assuming I'm blowing all of this out of my ass, I already looked into it. I substituted for about a year in San Antonio, too.

*you can do a lot of bullshit non-teaching jobs but they pay dogshit, have no room for advancement.

we also seem to be forgetting that school budgets across the country are being slashed and don't expect that money to ever go back in for another few years. so basically you guys are encouraging me to go into a dead labor market. Holy shit will you people stop thinking about idyllic career situations because they don't exist. Fuck bitches, get money, smoke trees. Wisdom.

[hnibos]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

you cannot teach in a texas school* unless you have a teacher certification, which I already said takes about 2 years and involves a very demanding unpaid internship.

I really wish you guys would stop assuming I'm blowing all of this out of my ass, I already looked into it. I substituted for about a year in San Antonio, too.

*you can do a lot of bullshit non-teaching jobs but they pay dogshit, have no room for advancement and are now being cut by AISD and i don't really intend on leaving this city to "be somebody" or whatever the lame ass guilt trip is these days to make you settle in the suburbs with a wife and 2.5 kids

texas does believe in serfdom then. in florida you "apply" for a temp certificate. while youre teaching, you go through everything you need to go through to get the actual certificate.

basically the internship is paid.

[Trotskilicious]

yeah texas wants you to do the internship and still take all these classes at the university.

I met some of these people while subbing. Basically the teacher goes on holiday and they do all the work. They are a very drained, zombie like people with really huge bags under their eyes. They're stretched really thin and I've seen them snap frequently on people and children because of it. Not like Charlie Sheen snap but you know, being ugly to little kids This is a necessary adjunct to the job, best way to make kids stop doing something stupid I noticed was to make them feel stupid for doing it, a "don't do that" only encourages them (actually lying helps too, this one dude was tugging on his ears and giggling about it and i told him if he does it too hard he'll rip his ears off and he stopped almost immediately), but there's a line. You know when some little 2nd grader goes "Can I go to the bathroom?" and the teacher apprentice says "Sit down, NOW," angrily and then the poor girl pisses her pants five minutes later and gets yelled at by the same TA whose fault it is...well.

I don't really imagine teaching to be that rewarding, substitute teaching certainly isn't, so unless I'm promised a pile of willing, naked, curvy women at the end of something terrible like working 40 hours a week & going to school full time & interning at an elementary school for 2 years then I'm going to blaze up and sit back on my couch and watch a Herzog flick.

Also have you guys noticed that I have very short patience with the stupids? That's not a good trait for a teacher.

[Trotskilicious]

best is when the TAs have a meltdown and start sobbing. as a child I usually made this my goal. You can say I'm sick but when I saw a goofy college student with a head full of "I want to do something!" My 8 year old mind could only think of the glee in making them run away from the school and never return.

funny thing is they still end up being teachers and then they flame out again in a year or so. Seen it happen a few times.

Roommate's sort-of GF is one of those real shrinking violets with virtually no whatsit, spine? And she wants to be a teacher. Me and the RM got a good chuckle out of what the kids will do to her (rip her limb for limb and send her to the mental institution).

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

we also seem to be forgetting that school budgets across the country are being slashed and don't expect that money to ever go back in for another few years. so basically you guys are encouraging me to go into a dead labor market. Holy shit will you people stop thinking about idyllic career situations because they don't exist. Fuck bitches, get money, smoke trees. Wisdom.

i looked into some fellowship thing in chicago that would have given me a free master's and a teaching certificate while i student taught or some shit. i was all set to apply and then i finally saw the fine print at the bottom that was all OH HAI WE ONLY WANT YOU IF YOU'RE GONNA TEACH CHINESE OR MAYBE MATH. THX.

then i just sort of gave up i guess.

[Trotskilicious]

yeah there's that too, it's nearly impossible for people to get jobs in liberal arts fields in public schools. the state govts and no child left behind have grossly underestimated the use of teaching history, art, music, etc. I looked at the Northside ISD plans for education and 5th graders get like a half hour of history a week, music once a month, art once a month and 3 hours daily of "TAKS strategies."

Essentially if it's not reading, arithmetic, science or taking a fucking test then the kids aren't really taught it.

[Trotskilicious]

i'll never understand why reading texts aren't about history, science, art, music rather than the inane bullshit that's in them now. my mexican grandma. my first pair of shoes. first person accounts of the trip to the north pole. Seriously people, is any of this relevant to anything??

Obviously it's not done because kids like it, because they don't. Middle schoolers telling me "Man fuck the North Pole dog i don't give a shit." Then I describe severe frostbite to them and they're all interested.

[Trotskilicious]

also there might be some kids in san antonio that got the idea that there were evil flesh eating snow golems that lived around the north pole from somebody...

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by killtrocity

Rand Paul is a moron

Fuck the government, but corporations are cool! How can you honestly make the claim that a corporation is more efficient than government? Profit does not equate to efficiency.

IN *general* but not in all circumstances a corporate will be more efficient in accomplishing the same goal than the government because of bottom lines and profitability. Companies will not run indefinitely on credit, while a government or government officials are happy to do so and willingly ignore waste if they can offer some cushy jobs for friends who helped to support their campaigns.

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by cocksure

i dont wanna stir up more shit but does redbreegull actually think

edited for brevity

[The Omega Concern]

Here is J.S. Kim's Zerohedge article discussing the seminal work of John Taylor Gatto:

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The below article titled “The Educational System Was Designed to Keep Us Docile”, by John Taylor Gatto is a fine read as a complement to my latest article “Inside the Illusory Empire of the Banking Commodities Con Game.” Who is John Taylor Gatto? Mr. Gatto was the NYC “Teacher of the Year” three times, and a teacher that became highly disillusioned with the formal education system due to its failures to stimulate critical thinking in children.


http://www.zerohedge.com/article/ast...ational-system



If there is a provable relationship between formal education and intelligence, it is probably an inverse one. The more letters you have behind your name (MBA, PhD, JD, MFA, CPA) the greater level of stupidity one likely possesses, as the attainment of a higher level of education means that one has been exposed for a far longer time period than the average citizen to the indoctrination process.


About the author: JS Kim, the founder and Managing Director of SmartKnowledgeU, a fiercely independent investment research & consulting firm, attributes zero of his success as an entrepreneur to the formalized education process, his four years of education at an Ivy League institution or the attainment of a double masters in business administration and public policy. Instead, JS attributes 100% of any success he has attained in any entrepreneurial endeavor to critical thinking skills that were fostered from international travel, exposure to independent media and artists, and self-education.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

IN *general* but not in all circumstances a corporate will be more efficient in accomplishing the same goal than the government because of bottom lines and profitability. Companies will not run indefinitely on credit, while a government or government officials are happy to do so and willingly ignore waste if they can offer some cushy jobs for friends who helped to support their campaigns.

It's amazing how you can still cling to it. Especially the last 14 words. Yes, that is only true of governments. Benevolent corporations have entirely eliminated cronyism.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

About the author: JS Kim, the founder and Managing Director of SmartKnowledgeU, a fiercely independent investment research & consulting firm, attributes zero of his success as an entrepreneur to the formalized education process, his four years of education at an Ivy League institution or the attainment of a double masters in business administration and public policy. Instead, JS attributes 100% of any success he has attained in any entrepreneurial endeavor to critical thinking skills that were fostered from international travel, exposure to independent media and artists, and self-education.

is this a fucking joke

[Order 66]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

IN *general* but not in all circumstances a corporate will be more efficient in accomplishing the same goal than the government because of bottom lines and profitability. Companies will not run indefinitely on credit, while a government or government officials are happy to do so and willingly ignore waste if they can offer some cushy jobs for friends who helped to support their campaigns.

it can cut both ways really

[Order 66]

my view of government is... its neither good nor bad, fundamentally. its a facilitative entity where revenue is a component of its operations. whereas a corporation's existence lies solely on revenue

[The Omega Concern]

originally posted by Trotskilicious:

is this a fucking joke

the joke is that the educational process as started by the Rockefeller foundation in the U.S. is meant to divert the masses from the real truth of being human.

It's meant to dissuade the notions of alchemy between us as we exist in a plasma universe so we don't understand our true psychic nature. You can also point to the Newtonian and Einstein paradigms based on the weakest of the elemental forces; gravity. The further we move along these paradigms, the more we have moved away from psi awareness and thus the ability to connect to each other in ways that would disrupt the current power structure of control through deceit.

[Order 66]

wouldnt at least a handful of people be able to use their psi to circumvent the system and expose it by now? and i mean in a non conspiratorial demonstrable way

[The Omega Concern]

that's why I agree with Kim's assertion that the more letters one has on their degree, the more it shows that person is ignorant to the real truths of humanity and is more prone to facilitate the current paradigm at all costs, because to disrupt it would be to risk their mortgage payments on their house, or monthly payments on their Lexus.

[The Omega Concern]

originally posted by Order 66:

wouldnt at least a handful of people be able to use their psi to circumvent the system and expose it by now? and i mean in a non conspiratorial demonstrable way

is this a challenge 66?

you're talking about a HUGE system that has established a paradigm that continues to make fun of psi education every chance they get...and no thanks to charlatans like Miss Cleo who come around and muck up the waters for those doing honest research and experiments like Ed Dames, Russell Targ, Ingo Swann, among others.

not to confuse remote viewing with psychic intuition. they are different disciplines in the same game, so to speak...like a center fielder is different than a catcher, though they both play baseball. crude analogy, but hope it makes the point clear.

[Order 66]

i've always been interested in project stargate but it doesnt seem like anything definitive ever came from it

[hnibos]

i wish i could be trained in remote viewing

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by The Omega Concern

the joke is that the educational process as started by the Rockefeller foundation in the U.S. is meant to divert the masses from the real truth of being human.

STOP

let me ask you how you figure having a paragraph long by-line where the author rages against the college industry yet still manages to mention that they have an ivy league education and a double masters in whateverthefuck isn't some kind of sad joke that the author isn't in on.

[Trotskilicious]

basically, if college is so stupid why are you still mentioning your ivy league double masters as credentials

because he still cares and he still thinks it's valuable, so basically everything he says otherwise is bullshit.

[The Omega Concern]

you gotta know the rules to understand how to break them?

that's what I figure he's really trying to get across.

[hnibos]

toc hook me up with your remote viewing trainer