MONTE: EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH OLD MAN BILL!!

[Kahlo]

Taken from Monte's blog here

I asked Billy what speed teargarden theme was suppose to be played at.. and he changed the subject to asking if anyone had heard the alt version Teargarden Theme that was suppose to be on the 7" with the lucky 100 gold obelisk . Since no one has seem to reportedly gotten one of the 100 by my report to him (and if there have been ones i hadn't heard anything about it.) Billy picked up his Blackberry and sent out an email right then and there to find out what happen.

EMI had done some research costing some 3 million dollars and they found out that SP has a strong core base and that the casual fan has a positive perception of Smashing Pumpkins.

He mention that the Gish box set really looked like a go. EMI had done a lot of market research and saw that doing something with Gish would make good sales. SP gave them what they would require to be an expectable deal before the 7 EMI people left. But when it came back it was so far off that Billy said that his lawyer (who happens to be a she) laughed at them and they just said screw it. And this meeting happen like a year ago,
Billy was reserved about putting out the box on his own because if the Gish box didn't sell then that could screw it for future projects

He also mention again how the music companies are looking for a new model to do business for the past 10 years with the introduction of the internet, and he felt that things are still in a change. But the thing that hasn't changed is that the bands are still being treated by the record companies, with the attitude of you need us, we don't need you. Which is completely wrong.

seven years after Billy's Warner Bro contract is expired Billy will retain all the rights to the songs from Zwan, his solo album and Zeitgeist. He owns the rights to everything Gish and pre. along with some 28 shows that were video taped (which if i recall right was before Gish came out)

Billy mention that their are pretty much instrumentals of every song post Gish that he would like to put out sometime.

He cancel the archive project because of the lack of support of the core fans. He mention a number of 300k would needed to be put into the project (that number could of just been a number), but he can't just hope that it works out without fan support. The fans need to help put the money out there first to get it going. But all the talk of "well what if it sucks?" is really what killed it

He also said he would love to go to China, but has never been made an offer.

and the best part was at one point i asked about the change of his twitter icon to the 2 horses, and he kind of laughed and said "Monte you need to spend more time with your beautiful wife"

i also joked with him about how my supportive wife was ok with us going to santa barbara. I had told her lets go on a romantic get away to Santa Barbara on Labor Day weekend, but do u mind if we see an SP concert, they just happen to be there

MonteLDS

So there we have it fans - it is YOUR FAULT there is no archive project!

[Rocket Launcher]

yeah, go ahead and blame it all on us billy, cause it's so much easier than releasing teh leet.

thanks for the heads-up. Good thing about the rights for the albums. There is surely more stuff to be uncovered somewhere in the future

[Esty]

Originally Posted by Kahlo

I had told her lets go on a romantic get away to Santa Barbara on Labor Day weekend, but do u mind if we see an SP concert, they just happen to be there
MonteLDS

No surprise monte mixes billy and "romance" together. I'm sure "watching a show" translates to hanging outside the venue all fucking day before and after the show.

No shock she said yes. The only time he can get an erection is after having stalked corgan for a day. Bitch can't get her 2 minutes of loving unless monte sees bill.

[Kahlo]

2 minutes? I think that is the most generous I've seen you be towards Monte...ever.

Still good of him to get the info, and hoping that one day BC gets over the Zwan thing and we can get to hear some decent music. Does anyone know when the WB contract end? was it last year?

2016: Year of the Zwan?

[Esty]

2016 seems like a good guess for bill to get a restraining order against monte.

Anyway, its late and i'm off to bed. Fuck off khalo, you faggot looking motherfucker.

[Astur]

Warner Bro

[stripes]

lmao

[slunken]

Good thing Bill is free from the restraints of record labels and can do what he wants now.

[duovamp]

It's pretty awesome seeing a full paragraph written in Montese.

[duovamp]

I especially like the tense issues on mentioned and happened.

Was he home-schooled by chance?

[slunken]

EMI had done some research costing some 3 million dollars and they found out that SP has a strong core base and that the casual fan has a positive perception of Smashing Pumpkins.

[samuel redman]

monte probably keeps his wife bound and gagged and takes her out only when he can stalk Billy, you know, as an excuse to go on a romantic getaway

[Astur]

goodbye horses, i'm lying over you

[slunken]

A lot of this information is more important than just talking shit about the dude. (monte not billy)

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by slunken

A lot of this information is more important than just talking shit about the dude. (monte not billy)

uhhh what?

why can't monte fucking type/spell/form sentences? after all this time spent on the motherfucking internet.

[slunken]

it's a mystery i guess. a mystery that doesn't matter to me.

[paranoid]

billy seems adamant to have EMI release this gish box for sale.. and when it falls through, why not do it himself? if he really had faith in his fan base and his own product he'd have no problem releasing it himself.. there should be no doubt in his mind that he'd make back on his investment, right? I mean the research shows that the fans are devoted, so why does he need to depend on EMI to release and give him the right deal? But it seems he's just as nervous about releasing this as the label is.. then he bitches about it when the label backs out.

listen billy, release the gish set, the archived material, etc, yourself, and i guarantee we will buy it. we're just not going to pay for something that isn't released yet. sorry. use your own fucking money to get this done and you'll get it back, otherwise just shut up about it and quit bitching about the fans.

asshole.

[wHATcOLOR]

Originally Posted by Kahlo

and the best part was at one point i asked about the change of his twitter icon to the 2 horses, and he kind of laughed and said "Monte you need to spend more time with your beautiful wife"

that's the most sane thing bill has said, probably ever.

not sure why monte thinks this is the best part, it is basically bill telling him to get a life.

[slunken]

do not sign me up for gish album instrumentals. in the meantime tell billy to pull his head out of his ass.

[The Jesus]

Sounds like Monte gave him a good grilling.

[RenewRevive]

no wonder record companies are in trouble if they spend 3 million dollars on market research regarding a Gish box set and then don't even go ahead with the project! wtf? to me, that figure seems to possess a fair bit of hyperbole. if the rights to Zwan material passes on to Billy i'd be a lot more interested in hearing studio versions of Glorious, Chrysanthemum, My Life and Times and all the other good songs that never made it on to MSotS.

maybe if Billy had released a few samples of the archive material to give us an idea of what is available and at what quality, rather than requiring a financial commitment up-front with no guarantee as to what we'd be getting, then it might have actually worked. what fuckers the fans are

[Kahlo]

Probably spent about $300 if that.

[paranoid]

Originally Posted by RenewRevive

no wonder record companies are in trouble if they spend 3 million dollars on market research regarding a Gish box set and then don't even go ahead with the project! wtf? to me, that figure seems to possess a fair bit of hyperbole. if the rights to Zwan material passes on to Billy i'd be a lot more interested in hearing studio versions of Glorious, Chrysanthemum, My Life and Times and all the other good songs that never made it on to MSotS.

maybe if Billy had released a few samples of the archive material to give us an idea of what is available and at what quality, rather than requiring a financial commitment up-front with no guarantee as to what we'd be getting, then it might have actually worked. what fuckers the fans are

he NEEDS a label to help him get this shit done. he's incompetent business wise and he's proven it with how he handled this archives ordeal.

write all the letters you want to EMI, but don't expect a gish box set. i'm betting he's a total pain in their ass and they wont release it out of spite.

[Kahlo]

"Billy Corgan on the line"

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

[paranoid]

Originally Posted by Kahlo

"Billy Corgan on the line"

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

exactly. ''billy's on the line, begging you do market research to prove that his band is still relevant."

[Ramdust]

Whatever. Billy has enough money. He donated all proceeds from the Adore tour, he gave away Machina 2 and now Teargarden, he's sold out to TV commercials, but he won't release the archives? Even if all the people who cared to hear the obscurities actually paid for it, he wouldn't make much. Sure, there's an obsessive core fan base, but it's down to a few thousand people.

[MonteLDS]

Originally Posted by paranoid

billy seems adamant to have EMI release this gish box for sale.. and when it falls through, why not do it himself? if he really had faith in his fan base and his own product he'd have no problem releasing it himself.. there should be no doubt in his mind that he'd make back on his investment, right? I mean the research shows that the fans are devoted, so why does he need to depend on EMI to release and give him the right deal? But it seems he's just as nervous about releasing this as the label is.. then he bitches about it when the label backs out.

listen billy, release the gish set, the archived material, etc, yourself, and i guarantee we will buy it. we're just not going to pay for something that isn't released yet. sorry. use your own fucking money to get this done and you'll get it back, otherwise just shut up about it and quit bitching about the fans.

asshole.

wow, such a shallow perspective.
If he was to put himself out on a ledge like that with the Gish Box out of his own
pocket and it didn't do as well as what EMI expectations were then his investment would possibly just bring him back the money he spent.
Who puts 500k into something and then 2 years later gets the 500k back with no interest.
EMI would be able to take the risk and do a bunch of promotion for it. If it did amazing then EMI (who from what I am understanding still owns some of the catalog of SD - Machina II) would most likely be interested in doing future releases.
If he releases it all on his own and fans call it crap and casual fans (who are at the heart of the sales number) don't buy it then *poof* we'd never have a chance to hear anything else.

so why risk it now?

Originally Posted by RenewRevive

no wonder record companies are in trouble if they spend 3 million dollars on market research regarding a Gish box set and then don't even go ahead with the project! wtf? to me, that figure seems to possess a fair bit of hyperbole. if the rights to Zwan material passes on to Billy i'd be a lot more interested in hearing studio versions of Glorious, Chrysanthemum, My Life and Times and all the other good songs that never made it on to MSotS.

maybe if Billy had released a few samples of the archive material to give us an idea of what is available and at what quality, rather than requiring a financial commitment up-front with no guarantee as to what we'd be getting, then it might have actually worked. what fuckers the fans are

the research was not just about SP. they had spent 3 million in Data mining about music in general. People also were taking surveys and given something to take it.

As for the samples idea. You can't release a sample unless you have a full song finished. It's not a movie where you can just show selected a scene

[MonteLDS]

Oh and i am also surprised no one has mention that Spiteface was played during soundcheck yesterday

[dustrock]

thanks monte.

anything else about the new songs?

did he confirm spangled is the next release?

[RenewRevive]

Originally Posted by MonteLDS

As for the samples idea. You can't release a sample unless you have a full song finished. It's not a movie where you can just show selected a scene

you misunderstood. if it is an archived show (aud or vid) release a clip of like a song from the show, so we know the recording quality. same with unreleased demos.