what do u guys think about our army admitting jihadis? - Page 2

beef curtains · 11-09-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ATS

typical libs getting snotty about wanting an enemy of the USA and a killer dead when they are the first to defend abortion

I am pro death for everyone.

redbreegull · 11-09-2009, 03:31 PM

Thinking that someone should die for killing someone else is a purely emotional response. There is very little evidence to support the death penalty as a significant deterrent to further crime. It just doesn't make sense.

Mo · 11-09-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by redbreegull

There is very little evidence to support the death penalty as a significant deterrent to further crime. It just doesn't make sense.

And here I was thinking it's working so swell for you guys.

Corganist · 11-09-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by redbreegull

Thinking that someone should die for killing someone else is a purely emotional response. There is very little evidence to support the death penalty as a significant deterrent to further crime. It just doesn't make sense.

Yep, deterrence is everything. That's why stupidly harsh prison sentences have completely eliminated marijuana use in this country, right?

Regardless, punishment shouldn't always have to be a teaching tool. What's really so wrong about saying "You fucked up, and so now we're going to fuck you up so bad that you'll never do it again."?

hnibos · 11-09-2009, 07:38 PM

jesus believed in forgiveness what kind of christian are you corganist your grandmother would be so dissappointed

Corganist · 11-09-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hnibos

jesus believed in forgiveness what kind of christian are you corganist your grandmother would be so dissappointed

If she's measuring me up by what kind of christian I am, then yeah, I imagine she would be...considering I'm not any kind of one. Christianity interferes with my natural republican instincts of warmongering and lack of compassion for the less fortunate and criminals.

redbreegull · 11-09-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Corganist

Regardless, punishment shouldn't always have to be a teaching tool. What's really so wrong about saying "You fucked up, and so now we're going to fuck you up so bad that you'll never do it again."?

What exactly is the logic behind this

Eulogy · 11-09-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Corganist

Regardless, punishment shouldn't always have to be a teaching tool. What's really so wrong about saying "You fucked up, and so now we're going to fuck you up so bad that you'll never do it again."?

well that's what prisons are for. the point is that deterrence would be the only argument that would make any kind of sense. but it's not a deterrent, so what's the fucking point?

Trotskilicious · 11-09-2009, 09:02 PM

corganist how do you respond to threads when your head is up your ass, it's hard for me to figure out

ATS · 11-09-2009, 09:51 PM

let's examine the pros and cons of executing a jihadi

pros:
jihadi no longer exists

cons:
jihadi will never live to see the error of his ways

redbreegull · 11-09-2009, 09:56 PM

I hope you conservatives realize that your beliefs are the result of ignorance and an unrealistic fear-driven quest for cultural stasis when the truth is that the most sure thing in the universe is flux. Just let go. Tomorrow is a different day.

Future Boy · 11-09-2009, 10:01 PM

he'll learn it in hell, not really a con

Corganist · 11-10-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy

well that's what prisons are for. the point is that deterrence would be the only argument that would make any kind of sense. but it's not a deterrent, so what's the fucking point?

We're casting the person out of society for good whether they're executed or just locked away for life. What does it matter whether or not it deters others? Why are we okay with life in prison not being a deterrent, but somehow deterrence is the only way to justify the death penalty? Just seems inconsistent to me.

Mayfuck · 11-10-2009, 06:48 PM

I don't think Eulogy was saying the sole purpose of any punishment is deterrence. He was responding to death penalty supporters citing deterrence as a reason to keep the death penalty.

Corganist · 11-10-2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mayfuck

I don't think Eulogy was saying the sole purpose of any punishment is deterrence. He was responding to death penalty supporters citing deterrence as a reason to keep the death penalty.

Oh, well in that case I agree. I never did like the deterrence argument. But conversely, I don't see the lack of deterrence as a strike against the death penalty.

JokeyLoki · 11-10-2009, 07:13 PM

The President gave a damn good speech today. Credit where credit is due.

Eulogy · 11-10-2009, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Corganist

We're casting the person out of society for good whether they're executed or just locked away for life. What does it matter whether or not it deters others? Why are we okay with life in prison not being a deterrent, but somehow deterrence is the only way to justify the death penalty? Just seems inconsistent to me.

Give me another reason that the death penalty should exist

Mayfuck · 11-10-2009, 08:00 PM

jesus give it a rest eulogy

Trotskilicious · 11-11-2009, 01:10 AM

obama talks real purdy like

ATS · 11-11-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy

Give me another reason that the death penalty should exist

2 many ppl in jail

ATS · 11-11-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JokeyLoki

The President gave a damn good speech today. Credit where credit is due.

what could he possibly say that wouldnt be predictable and boring ZzZZZzzZZZzZZzZzzZzZzZzZzZzZ

Trotskilicious · 11-11-2009, 07:14 PM

hmm seems to have a lot in common with you then

ATS · 12-31-2009, 02:48 AM

kinda wish our army didnt admit jihadis

Nimrod's Son · 12-31-2009, 03:12 AM

ur not obamer

Future Boy · 01-09-2010, 02:30 PM

that proves nothing

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11-09-2009, 03:31 PM	#32
redbreegull Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: WILD BOY Posts: 32,027	Thinking that someone should die for killing someone else is a purely emotional response. There is very little evidence to support the death penalty as a significant deterrent to further crime. It just doesn't make sense.

11-09-2009, 07:38 PM	#35
hnibos Braindead Location: I was just reading, right? Posts: 15,020	jesus believed in forgiveness what kind of christian are you corganist your grandmother would be so dissappointed

11-09-2009, 09:02 PM	#39
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	corganist how do you respond to threads when your head is up your ass, it's hard for me to figure out

11-09-2009, 09:51 PM	#40
ATS Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,324	let's examine the pros and cons of executing a jihadi pros: jihadi no longer exists cons: jihadi will never live to see the error of his ways

11-09-2009, 09:56 PM	#41
redbreegull Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: WILD BOY Posts: 32,027	I hope you conservatives realize that your beliefs are the result of ignorance and an unrealistic fear-driven quest for cultural stasis when the truth is that the most sure thing in the universe is flux. Just let go. Tomorrow is a different day.

11-09-2009, 10:01 PM	#42
Future Boy The Man of Tomorrow Posts: 26,972	he'll learn it in hell, not really a con

11-10-2009, 06:48 PM	#44
Mayfuck Banned Location: i'm from japan also hollywood Posts: 57,812	I don't think Eulogy was saying the sole purpose of any punishment is deterrence. He was responding to death penalty supporters citing deterrence as a reason to keep the death penalty.

11-10-2009, 07:13 PM	#46
JokeyLoki has great self of steam. Location: SECRET OBAMA FUCKDEN RENDEZVOUS Posts: 24,312	The President gave a damn good speech today. Credit where credit is due.

11-10-2009, 08:00 PM	#48
Mayfuck Banned Location: i'm from japan also hollywood Posts: 57,812	jesus give it a rest eulogy

11-11-2009, 01:10 AM	#49
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	obama talks real purdy like

11-11-2009, 07:14 PM	#52
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	hmm seems to have a lot in common with you then

12-31-2009, 02:48 AM	#53
ATS Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,324	kinda wish our army didnt admit jihadis

12-31-2009, 03:12 AM	#54
Nimrod's Son Master of Karate and Friendship Location: in your butt Posts: 72,943	ur not obamer

01-09-2010, 02:30 PM	#55
Future Boy The Man of Tomorrow Posts: 26,972	that proves nothing