NCAA Football Thread - Page 6

Eulogy · 09-27-2009, 02:33 PM

and "not even a top 5 qb" does not necessarily mean he's not one of the best in the country. there are a lot of quarterbacks.

Corganist · 09-27-2009, 02:43 PM

I'd be kinda hard pressed to name 5 better QBs than Clausen right offhand. He's played well this season. McCoy, Tebow, and Bradford (when he gets healthy) I think are better for sure. But beyond that? I don't know. I don't think Clausen is that far behind those 3.

Eulogy · 09-27-2009, 02:49 PM

anyone who has watched him play this season wouldn't be able to either. i don't know what sppunk is going on about.

Corganist · 09-27-2009, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eulogy

those numbers against the Arkansas pass defense do not impress me. not one bit.

This. For some reason Alabama QBs always have career passing games against Arkansas. McElroy's numbers yesterday are right in line with the kind of numbers John Parker Wilson usually put up against us (and then failed to put up against anyone else).

McElroy was good in the game yesterday, but all he had to do was distribute the ball. He wasn't asked to make many difficult throws. But I guess part of that is because there's no such thing as a difficult throw when there's no pass rush and the opposing DBs are getting blown by on every play.

sppunk · 09-27-2009, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eulogy

you're just bitter 'cause PSU lost to the most perpetually underachieving team in the country for the second year in a row.

I'm bitter about a game I said an overrated Penn State team would lose? Not so much. They'll lose three more this year, too.

Texas, Houston, Alabama, Florida, Michigan and Cincinnatti all have better qbs than ND. Clawson is good, yes, but he's not close to being the best which you alluded.

Eulogy · 09-27-2009, 03:35 PM

seventh best qualifies as "one of the best" in my mind. and you're absolutely wrong about alabama and michigan.

sppunk · 09-27-2009, 04:32 PM

I misread your posts initially - thought you said he was the best, not one of the best. Apologies.

But he got beat head-to-head by a freshman who looks incredible, and Alabama's qb runs the offense amazingly well.

Clawson is lucky to have Tate to fall back on, but I'm not overly sold on anything else he does.

Dogfighter28 · 09-27-2009, 04:56 PM

The only thing that matters in the end is wins and losses. You can't compare the stats of different QB's because they run different styles of offenses. Completion percentage is really the only useful stat across the board.

hnibos · 09-27-2009, 05:00 PM

even if they are a dink and dunker?

sam bradford is probably the only real good traditional qb in college. sad day for cfb if claussen is elite

Eulogy · 09-27-2009, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hnibos

sad day for cfb if claussen is elite

first of all, for you and sppunk, his name isn't that hard to spell. and he's an excellent quarterback. there is nothing sad about it. you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Dogfighter28 · 09-29-2009, 04:30 PM

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._1664480_n.jpg

No one can bring down Julio!

Corganist · 09-29-2009, 05:00 PM

That's what happens when a man goes out and plays with boys.

Arkansas is still a year or two away from having the defensive talent on campus to keep them in games with teams like Bama. That long pass play they gave up right after they cut the lead down to 14-7 sucked the wind right out of them. That play doesn't happen, it's a different ball game.

Dogfighter28 · 10-01-2009, 03:12 PM

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78...s_Terrific.jpg

TuralyonW3 · 10-02-2009, 02:04 AM

Dogfighter28 · 10-07-2009, 03:28 PM

The lack of a sufficient dialogue in this thread is appalling.

Corganist · 10-07-2009, 04:18 PM

I just think it's hard to make intelligent predictions on anything the way the season has gone so far. It's just kinda up in the air as far as who the best teams really are. And if three months from now we can't pull up the things we say in this thread and use them to say how smart our predictions were, what good is it?

But I'll go out on a limb a little. Whoever wins the SEC west division will most likely win the national championship. Bama looks every bit as good as advertised. LSU has looked like less than a top ten team, but they're getting breaks wherever they need them just like they did in 2007. And Auburn is starting to look like a darkhorse now that they have an offense. Hell, even Ole Miss could theoretically get on a roll and go 11-1 and be in the conversation (not likely, but possible).

Eulogy · 10-07-2009, 05:36 PM

ND beats USC in two weeks.

it's now or never.

Dogfighter28 · 10-11-2009, 07:39 PM

hnibos and me's teams are dominating, what now you texas fans

sppunk · 10-11-2009, 07:48 PM

Texas is the best team in the country. No idea what you're babbling about. When Texas beats Bama in the title game, it'll be sorta-kinda official.

I bet Corganist got so drunk last night he slept with a democrat.

hnibos · 10-11-2009, 07:50 PM

yep, sec championship=national championship game. right jczeroman?

Corganist · 10-11-2009, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sppunk

I bet Corganist got so drunk last night he slept with a democrat.

She said she was an independent.

But seriously, between the Hogs shitkicking Auburn, and Ole Miss getting utterly handled by Alabama, it was a pretty damn good day. I'm glad I got to enjoy it...considering that Arkansas gets to go to Florida on Saturday. Even I'm not enough of a homer to think that'll go well.

Trotskilicious · 10-11-2009, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogfighter28

what now you texas fans

what the fuck are you even talking about

sppunk · 10-11-2009, 08:11 PM

He thinks winning a game against a team that had what 6 turnovers is brag worthy.

Dogfighter28 · 10-11-2009, 08:12 PM

We leapfrogged you in the polls bro not to mention an embarrassing start against a team that got beat by Toledo... at home... and your coach admitting that he overlooked them

Trotskilicious · 10-11-2009, 08:13 PM

yeah well we have oklahoma next week and we still beat the shit out of them

one half doesn't mean fucking anything guy

you might have a point if it was actually close but it wasn't

slow starts are endemic to college football, maybe once you start shaving you might notice that

Eulogy · 10-11-2009, 08:14 PM

yeah and notre dame jumped into the poll in an off week.

polls are meaningless.

Trotskilicious · 10-11-2009, 08:15 PM

were they eating cheeseburgers

Eulogy · 10-11-2009, 08:23 PM

nah, their moms came and fed them fried chicken in the parking lot

sppunk · 10-11-2009, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogfighter28

We leapfrogged you in the polls bro

Who the fuck cares? Your offense struggled despite being handed the football four times by a qb who has regressed more than Reggie Bush.

Dogfighter28 · 10-11-2009, 08:46 PM

Yeah its hard to lose when your defense pwns tho

Also Julio Jones is still hurt and that was McElroy's first tough road game ever

We have work to do but we're in very good shape. There is no such thing as an ugly win on the road in the SEC

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09-27-2009, 02:33 PM	#151
Eulogy huh Posts: 62,361	and "not even a top 5 qb" does not necessarily mean he's not one of the best in the country. there are a lot of quarterbacks.

09-27-2009, 02:43 PM	#152
Corganist Minion of Satan Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,240	I'd be kinda hard pressed to name 5 better QBs than Clausen right offhand. He's played well this season. McCoy, Tebow, and Bradford (when he gets healthy) I think are better for sure. But beyond that? I don't know. I don't think Clausen is that far behind those 3.

09-27-2009, 02:49 PM	#153
Eulogy huh Posts: 62,361	anyone who has watched him play this season wouldn't be able to either. i don't know what sppunk is going on about.

09-27-2009, 03:35 PM	#156
Eulogy huh Posts: 62,361	seventh best qualifies as "one of the best" in my mind. and you're absolutely wrong about alabama and michigan.

09-27-2009, 04:32 PM	#157
sppunk Netphoria's George Will Location: Fenway Park Posts: 37,125	I misread your posts initially - thought you said he was the best, not one of the best. Apologies. But he got beat head-to-head by a freshman who looks incredible, and Alabama's qb runs the offense amazingly well. Clawson is lucky to have Tate to fall back on, but I'm not overly sold on anything else he does.

09-27-2009, 04:56 PM	#158
Dogfighter28 ILL KILL UR DOG Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,358	The only thing that matters in the end is wins and losses. You can't compare the stats of different QB's because they run different styles of offenses. Completion percentage is really the only useful stat across the board.

09-27-2009, 05:00 PM	#159
hnibos Braindead Location: I was just reading, right? Posts: 15,020	even if they are a dink and dunker? sam bradford is probably the only real good traditional qb in college. sad day for cfb if claussen is elite

09-29-2009, 04:30 PM	#161
Dogfighter28 ILL KILL UR DOG Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,358	http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._1664480_n.jpg No one can bring down Julio!

09-29-2009, 05:00 PM	#162
Corganist Minion of Satan Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,240	That's what happens when a man goes out and plays with boys. Arkansas is still a year or two away from having the defensive talent on campus to keep them in games with teams like Bama. That long pass play they gave up right after they cut the lead down to 14-7 sucked the wind right out of them. That play doesn't happen, it's a different ball game.

10-01-2009, 03:12 PM	#163
Dogfighter28 ILL KILL UR DOG Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,358	http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78...s_Terrific.jpg

10-07-2009, 03:28 PM	#165
Dogfighter28 ILL KILL UR DOG Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,358	The lack of a sufficient dialogue in this thread is appalling.

10-07-2009, 04:18 PM	#166
Corganist Minion of Satan Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,240	I just think it's hard to make intelligent predictions on anything the way the season has gone so far. It's just kinda up in the air as far as who the best teams really are. And if three months from now we can't pull up the things we say in this thread and use them to say how smart our predictions were, what good is it? But I'll go out on a limb a little. Whoever wins the SEC west division will most likely win the national championship. Bama looks every bit as good as advertised. LSU has looked like less than a top ten team, but they're getting breaks wherever they need them just like they did in 2007. And Auburn is starting to look like a darkhorse now that they have an offense. Hell, even Ole Miss could theoretically get on a roll and go 11-1 and be in the conversation (not likely, but possible).

10-07-2009, 05:36 PM	#167
Eulogy huh Posts: 62,361	ND beats USC in two weeks. it's now or never.

10-11-2009, 07:39 PM	#168
Dogfighter28 ILL KILL UR DOG Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,358	hnibos and me's teams are dominating, what now you texas fans

10-11-2009, 07:48 PM	#169
sppunk Netphoria's George Will Location: Fenway Park Posts: 37,125	Texas is the best team in the country. No idea what you're babbling about. When Texas beats Bama in the title game, it'll be sorta-kinda official. I bet Corganist got so drunk last night he slept with a democrat.

10-11-2009, 07:50 PM	#170
hnibos Braindead Location: I was just reading, right? Posts: 15,020	yep, sec championship=national championship game. right jczeroman?

10-11-2009, 08:11 PM	#173
sppunk Netphoria's George Will Location: Fenway Park Posts: 37,125	He thinks winning a game against a team that had what 6 turnovers is brag worthy.

10-11-2009, 08:12 PM	#174
Dogfighter28 ILL KILL UR DOG Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,358	We leapfrogged you in the polls bro not to mention an embarrassing start against a team that got beat by Toledo... at home... and your coach admitting that he overlooked them

10-11-2009, 08:13 PM	#175
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	yeah well we have oklahoma next week and we still beat the shit out of them one half doesn't mean fucking anything guy you might have a point if it was actually close but it wasn't slow starts are endemic to college football, maybe once you start shaving you might notice that

10-11-2009, 08:14 PM	#176
Eulogy huh Posts: 62,361	yeah and notre dame jumped into the poll in an off week. polls are meaningless.

10-11-2009, 08:15 PM	#177
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	were they eating cheeseburgers

10-11-2009, 08:23 PM	#178
Eulogy huh Posts: 62,361	nah, their moms came and fed them fried chicken in the parking lot

10-11-2009, 08:46 PM	#180
Dogfighter28 ILL KILL UR DOG Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,358	Yeah its hard to lose when your defense pwns tho Also Julio Jones is still hurt and that was McElroy's first tough road game ever We have work to do but we're in very good shape. There is no such thing as an ugly win on the road in the SEC