NCAA Football Thread

[Trotskilicious]

no they won't

maybe fifth but give me a fucking break dude. third? you're smoking crack.

[Dogfighter28]

i'll try to make a more detailed post next week if jczeroman doesn't get on the ball, shapan

eulogy, good picks this week, edged me out. i wasn't counting on LSU flopping and Cal actually living up to the hype

[Eulogy]

so colin, how 'bout that ACC?

[sppunk]

Brendan you do realize Baylor has a qb that'll be better than Young, right? I bet you don't even know they've had major recruits the past two seasons and run an offense hard to contain.

[Dogfighter28]

I'd like to remind everyone that one week of picks is dropped from the final scores, so sign up you stragglers!

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by sppunk

Brendan you do realize Baylor has a qb that'll be better than Young, right?

hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

[sppunk]

He has a better arm and is just as fast - give him 2 years.

[Dogfighter28]

vince young is a joke

[beef curtains]

Go WSU!!!! We're #1 we're #1










in swine flu

[sppunk]

The Miami-FSU game is great.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Dogfighter28

vince young is a joke

A joke that won Texas a National Title and a Rose Bowl.

[Tchocky]

Bradford's season isn't over...he'll be out 2-4 weeks, according to sources.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Dogfighter28

vince young is a joke

well this is a college football thread so no one gives a shit about what he "is"

he WAS one of the greatest college football players of all time and led his team to a national championship. idiot.

[bardy]

so was VT totally embarassed in that alabama game the second half? I had to go to dinner and didn't get to catch it. Obviously we lost but we were hanging in pretty well in the first half despite our offense being retarded.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by bardy

so was VT totally embarassed in that alabama game the second half? I had to go to dinner and didn't get to catch it. Obviously we lost but we were hanging in pretty well in the first half despite our offense being retarded.

your entire conference is the joke of the entire college football nation

sry.

[bardy]

at least we're in a conference you elitist assholes

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Dogfighter28

vince young is a joke

i guess you were still in diapers when he won a national championship with 14 seconds on the clock



Jealous much?

[Shapan]

laughing at my friends rooting for usc while watching young run that touchdown in was pretty great

[sppunk]

Yeah. That game unfortunately limits praise on the previous Rose Bowl where Texas beat Michigan in what I still consider the most underrated game Texas has played in a damn long time.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by bardy

at least we're in a conference you elitist assholes

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

suck it

[Trotskilicious]

fuck you notre dame

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

your entire conference is the joke of the entire college football nation

[Dogfighter28]

Yeah I'm jealous of Vince's championship, trots.


After all, us having 12 just isn't enough, we could use another.

[Trotskilicious]

yeah when was the last one 1995 dude, you weren't even born

[sppunk]

Originally Posted by Dogfighter28

Yeah I'm jealous of Vince's championship, trots.


After all, us having 12 just isn't enough, we could use another.

You don't have 12 titles, no matter what Bama Boosters want to believe. Fuck, one of those "titles" is when Alabama had two losses and finished 20th in the AP poll (1941)!

Shit, in 1973 11-1 Alabama LOST to 12-0 Notre Dame in the bowl and some dumbass pollster still said Alabama was No. 1. But I guess losing the national championship game (No. 2 Bama vs No. 1 ND) doesn't mean much.

(Below taken from a column I read a while back and Google Cached the info)

Glad you asked. Alabama claims national titles for the following years: 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1941, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992. Other than the first three, we'll go over each season individually.

1925, 1926, 1930. All back-dated titles. These titles were awarded years after the fact. Four teams could claim a back-dated title in 1925, eight teams in 1926, and two in 1930. See how inconsistent back-dated titles were? Doesn't matter. They don't really exist. Pure and simple resume embellishment. Some Bama fans try to justify these years by pointing out that they were awarded following Alabama wins in the Rose Bowl. Sorry. Even had there been an established MNC poll system during that time, the polls would continue to declare national champions BEFORE the bowls for the next 40 years. Nice revisionist try, but strike 3 titles from Bama's record.

1934--The first year for the AP poll, given to Minnesota. Alabama received 11 selectors choosing them, but I'm sure most of them were back-dated--impossible to know for sure. Minnesota had 29 selectors, most of them probably back-dated, but they got the only one that counted--the AP. Strike another title from Bama's record.

1941--The most egregious of Alabama's bogus titles. Alabama finished the season with 2 losses and ranked #20 in the final AP poll. But one of the minor selectors out of over 30 chose Alabama, and evidently, that's the only excuse they needed. Five other teams that year would have a superior claim over Alabama's if you counted minor selectors, but we don't. I'm not really sure how many years after the fact Bama raised this banner, but you can bet it was many--so that not many people might notice. Strike another title from their record--we're on a roll--up to five gone now!

1961--Ahh, the beginning of the Bear era, and the golden age of Tide football. Alabama was pretty much a consensus champion, with both of the major polls, the AP and UPI went their way. Some minor selectors chose Texas and Ohio State, but this title is solid. Score one legitimate title!

1964-- A 10-1 Alabama team claims a national title in 1964 in spite of an 11-0 Arkansas team having a better claim. Here, an instance of both the AP and UPI, which voted Alabama # 1 that year, still voting prior to the bowl game. Had the polls been conducted after the bowls, then I'm sure it would have been a consensus Arkansas pick because Alabama lost to Texas in the Orange bowl, but Arkansas beat Texas during the regular season. I recognize Alabama's title because that was the rules that were in place at the time. Chalk up another legitimate title for the Tide, although a modern-day jury would probably confer it on Arkansas.

1965--The first of Alabama's supposed two back-to-back titles. It was a split decision between the 9-1-1 Tide, who dropped the first game to Georgia and tied Tennessee, winning the AP title, and Michigan State, 10-1, dropping the Rose Bowl, winning the UPI crown--again, bestowed BEFORE the bowl games, while the AP that year was done afterwards. Two other teams, Arkansas and Dartmouth, also got a few minor selectors to choose them, but an AP title is gold, so score another legitimate title for the Tide, now up to three.

1973--Alabama goes 11-1 and is chosen by the UPI. Notre Dame goes 11-0 and is crowned by the AP as NC. Who did the Irish beat in the Sugar Bowl? Why, Alabama--for their only loss. Why in the hell did Alabama get a national championship after losing their bowl game to the real national champion? Because the UPI was still choosing their champion BEFORE the bowl games. How crazy is that? Pretty crazy, by today's standards. If Alabama had any sense of decency, they would refuse to claim 1973 as a title year since they lost the de facto national championship game to the real champions, but since those were the rules at the time, I begrudgingly recognize this MNC. One good thing did come out of this fiasco though: the UPI quit choosing their champ before the bowl games after this one. Score four.

1978--Split title year, AP going to Alabama, and the UPI going to USC. A funny thing happened on the way to Legion Field, however. Alabama LOST to USC at home during the regular season. But alas, USC lost a regular season game too, and the two teams did not meet in a bowl game. So be it. Chalk up title number five to Bama, even if they did share it with a team they lost to at home.

1979--The goal-line stand title, against Penn State in the Sugar Bowl. Most of us remember watching that game. Alabama was 12-0 and took all the marbles and most of the selectors. No argument here. Score number six in legitimate titles!

1992--Alabama's only 'modern' day title, complete with all the 24 hour media attention afforded 'national championship' bowl match-ups, in this case a beat-down of Miami in the Sugar Bowl. Absolutely no doubt. Final tally to date, seven legitimate MNCs.

[Dogfighter28]

Blah blah blah who cares

This season is all the matters now so we'll see who puts the money where their mouth is

[sppunk]

When Bama loses two or three games, you promise to shut the fuck up?

Alabama fans don't realize Saban has never had back-to-back 10 win seasons.

[Dogfighter28]

I'm not predicting anything, man. We have a legit shot at playing for the big one though. I really want another shot at Florida. Our QB this year is much better, the defense is just as good if not better, our stable of running backs is ridiculous, and our special teams blow as usual.

[Corganist]

Originally Posted by Dogfighter28

I'm not predicting anything, man. We have a legit shot at playing for the big one though. I really want another shot at Florida. Our QB this year is much better, the defense is just as good if not better, our stable of running backs is ridiculous, and our special teams blow as usual.

Maybe you guys should take another shot at Utah first before you go challenging Florida.

But seriously, Bama should run away with the SEC west. They have a pretty easy schedule from here on out. I can see an Arkansas or Kentucky or Auburn maybe jumping up one week and catching the Tide with their pants down, but that's a remote possibility. But after seeing the major competition in the west (Ole Miss and LSU) in action, it's pretty clear that Bama should beat them easily.

[TuralyonW3]

Just found out I'll get to go to the TX home game against Colorado. Too bad the Buffaloes just lost to fucking CSU.