They killed Batman - Page 2

TuralyonW3 · 01-17-2009, 03:33 AM

Have you read Kill your Boyfriend? It's really fun.

Trotskilicious · 01-17-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TuralyonW3

And Morrison is awesome by the way Trots. His batman run and Final Crisis have been owning.

No it hasn't...It's retarded. It's unbelievable stupid ass crossover shit. If there's one thing I hate in comics its the unbelievable fetish for crossovers and "killing" popular characters. It's a waste of fucking time.

That was awesome.

Indefinite Crisis is not.

Now I heard Morrison's run on X-Men is pretty good but I have my doubts.

TuralyonW3 · 01-17-2009, 07:08 PM

Yeah his 26-issue animal man run is one of my top-5 all time faves.

Ugly · 01-17-2009, 08:14 PM

Even though Morrison sometimes forgets basic things, like, you know, exposition and rational plot development, I have enjoyed the "Crossover On Crack" vibe of Final Crisis. He's the last guy you'd expect to do a universe-shaping event which is why it's fun. And I've enjoyed it alot more than the paint-by-numbers silver-age fetish wank that was Infinite Crisis and even more than Morrision's sorta blah New X-Men run. While I thought Marvel Secret Invasion was well done, FC keeps unrelentingly throwing wacky shit at the audience and it doesn't stop to explain everything.

There's an evil God who is destroying existence as we know it. Deal.

Trotskilicious · 01-17-2009, 08:15 PM

Crossovers are inherently stupid. You people are killing comics.

TuralyonW3 · 01-17-2009, 09:23 PM

Civil War and Secret Invasion were stupid, Final Crisis is fucking awesome. You do have to know some DC characters and chronology.

Ugly · 01-17-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

Crossovers are inherently stupid. You people are killing comics.

Well, if you're buying into the concept of a shared universe (having Spidey swing by the Baxter Building, Batman teaming up with Superman, etc. etc.) then a crossover is a part of that cohesive whole. Sure, they do have their share of bombastic silly moments (ie. killing Batman which we all know won't last a whit), but if it's a good story told with multiple characters, what the heck is the problem? (I don't buy every single tie-in issue, that's downright idiotic. I buy the main mini and that's basically it.)

Trotskilicious · 12:16 AM

You know what the problem is: when every single issue of every single comic book is part of or dealing with the effects of the last crossover our building up the next one. I mean seriously they seem to only exist to set up the next crossover and it's making it so that anyone that actually wants to read comics dives headfirst into a pile of crap that only exists to set up the next thing you HAVE TO BUY. And every crossover seems to claim that it will CHANGE THE UNIVERSE FOREVER and it just gets to the point where it's just stupid. Comics existed for decades without enormous crossovers. I've been reading X-Men from Giant Size on and it's fairly amazing how they can create self-contained issues and still build long running plot threads. Part of this, I'm sure, is because they don't have to worry about some editorial caveat about having to gear their stories towards creating tensions for company wide crossover events.

I mean really, if a company wide crossover was done every few years when the continuity needed a kick in the ass, it would be fine but these things seem to pop up constantly lately and last for half the year.

And think about this, you don't buy the "tie-ins" but they constitute a major part of individual titles which are now completely impossible to pick up and read.

TuralyonW3 · 01-18-2009, 02:11 AM

Dude no offense but you sound like any generic fanboy bashing the concept of a tie-in. If the story's good, it's good. If it sucks, it sucks.

Trotskilicious · 01-18-2009, 02:30 AM

The fan boy that doesn't buy comics.

Whatever dude. Shit sucks. There's a reason I don't buy comics anymore and there's a reason top sellers these days are about 200,000 copies.

And you can go "if it sucks it sucks," and yet, crossovers always always always suck.

TuralyonW3 · 01-30-2009, 02:46 AM

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7...7038kl4.th.jpg

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7...7039tn4.th.jpg

Esty · 01-30-2009, 02:54 AM

What issue is that?

TuralyonW3 · 01-30-2009, 03:05 AM

final crisis #7 last 2

AndySlash · 01-30-2009, 03:20 AM

I'm Batman.

Trotskilicious · 01-30-2009, 03:45 AM

pretty dumb

Nimrod's Son · 02-02-2009, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly

Of the few bits I've read of Morrison's Batman run, there's alot of silly gibberish but it's kind of cool so you can dig on it. There's an interview with Morrison here where he almost flat out says "No, he's not dead, there's more story here": GRANT MORRISON KILLS THE BATMAN : COMICS

"Batman" isn't dead. Morrison didn't say anything about Wayne.

publius clodius · 02-02-2009, 03:05 PM

so uh,

comics huh

*cough*

01-17-2009, 11:36 PM	#38
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	You know what the problem is: when every single issue of every single comic book is part of or dealing with the effects of the last crossover our building up the next one. I mean seriously they seem to only exist to set up the next crossover and it's making it so that anyone that actually wants to read comics dives headfirst into a pile of crap that only exists to set up the next thing you HAVE TO BUY. And every crossover seems to claim that it will CHANGE THE UNIVERSE FOREVER and it just gets to the point where it's just stupid. Comics existed for decades without enormous crossovers. I've been reading X-Men from Giant Size on and it's fairly amazing how they can create self-contained issues and still build long running plot threads. Part of this, I'm sure, is because they don't have to worry about some editorial caveat about having to gear their stories towards creating tensions for company wide crossover events. I mean really, if a company wide crossover was done every few years when the continuity needed a kick in the ass, it would be fine but these things seem to pop up constantly lately and last for half the year. And think about this, you don't buy the "tie-ins" but they constitute a major part of individual titles which are now completely impossible to pick up and read. Last edited by Trotskilicious : 01-18-2009 at 12:16 AM.

01-30-2009, 02:46 AM	#41
TuralyonW3 Immortal Posts: 25,567	so Batman is now in caveman times http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7...7038kl4.th.jpg http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7...7039tn4.th.jpg

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01-17-2009, 03:33 AM	#31
TuralyonW3 Immortal Posts: 25,567	Have you read Kill your Boyfriend? It's really fun.

01-17-2009, 07:08 PM	#33
TuralyonW3 Immortal Posts: 25,567	Yeah his 26-issue animal man run is one of my top-5 all time faves.

01-17-2009, 08:14 PM	#34
Ugly Immortal Location: Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed Posts: 21,249	Even though Morrison sometimes forgets basic things, like, you know, exposition and rational plot development, I have enjoyed the "Crossover On Crack" vibe of Final Crisis. He's the last guy you'd expect to do a universe-shaping event which is why it's fun. And I've enjoyed it alot more than the paint-by-numbers silver-age fetish wank that was Infinite Crisis and even more than Morrision's sorta blah New X-Men run. While I thought Marvel Secret Invasion was well done, FC keeps unrelentingly throwing wacky shit at the audience and it doesn't stop to explain everything. There's an evil God who is destroying existence as we know it. Deal.

01-17-2009, 08:15 PM	#35
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	Crossovers are inherently stupid. You people are killing comics.

01-17-2009, 09:23 PM	#36
TuralyonW3 Immortal Posts: 25,567	Civil War and Secret Invasion were stupid, Final Crisis is fucking awesome. You do have to know some DC characters and chronology.

01-18-2009, 02:11 AM	#39
TuralyonW3 Immortal Posts: 25,567	Dude no offense but you sound like any generic fanboy bashing the concept of a tie-in. If the story's good, it's good. If it sucks, it sucks.

01-18-2009, 02:30 AM	#40
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	The fan boy that doesn't buy comics. Whatever dude. Shit sucks. There's a reason I don't buy comics anymore and there's a reason top sellers these days are about 200,000 copies. And you can go "if it sucks it sucks," and yet, crossovers always always always suck.

01-30-2009, 02:54 AM	#42
Esty Netphorian of the Decade Location: Waiting in line for his geranium kiss Posts: 15,478	What issue is that?

01-30-2009, 03:05 AM	#43
TuralyonW3 Immortal Posts: 25,567	final crisis #7 last 2

01-30-2009, 03:45 AM	#45
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	pretty dumb

01-30-2009, 03:20 AM	#44
AndySlash Posts: 20,262	I'm Batman.

02-02-2009, 03:05 PM	#47
publius clodius Apocalyptic Poster Location: thank you mario but our princess is in another castle Posts: 3,209	so uh, comics huh cough