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NO FATS
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Why I Would Vote No On Pot - TIME
Maybe it's because I was born a couple of months after Woodstock and wasn't around when marijuana was as common as iPods are today, but I'm constantly amazed that after all these years--and all the wars on drugs and all the public-service announcements--nearly 15 million Americans still use marijuana at least once a month. California and 10 other states have already decriminalized marijuana for medical use. Now two of those states--Colorado and Nevada--are considering ballot initiatives that would legalize up to an ounce of pot for personal use by people 21 and older, whether or not there is a medical need. What do voters need to know before going to the polls? The first is that marijuana isn't really very good for you. True, there are health benefits for some patients. Several recent studies, including a new one from the Scripps Research Institute, show that THC, the chemical in marijuana responsible for the high, can help slow the progress of Alzheimer's disease. (In fact, it seems to block the formation of disease-causing plaques better than several mainstream drugs.) Other studies have shown THC to be a very effective antinausea treatment for people--cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy, for example--for whom conventional medications aren't working. And medical cannabis has shown promise relieving pain in patients with multiple sclerosis and reducing intraocular pressure in glaucoma patients. But I suspect that most of the people eager to vote yes on the new ballot measures aren't suffering from glaucoma, Alzheimer's or chemo-induced nausea. Many of them just want to get stoned legally. That's why I, like many other doctors, am unimpressed with the proposed legislation, which would legalize marijuana irrespective of any medical condition. Why do I care? As Dr. Nora Volkow, director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse, puts it, "Numerous deleterious health consequences are associated with [marijuana's] short- and long-term use, including the possibility of becoming addicted." What are other health consequences? Frequent marijuana use can seriously affect your short-term memory. It can impair your cognitive ability (why do you think people call it dope?) and lead to long-lasting depression or anxiety. While many people smoke marijuana to relax, it can have the opposite effect on frequent users. And smoking anything, whether it's tobacco or marijuana, can seriously damage your lung tissue. The Nevada and Colorado marijuana initiatives have gained support from unlikely places. More than 33 religious leaders in Nevada have endorsed the measure, arguing that permissive legalization, accompanied by stringent regulations and penalties, can cut down on illegal drug trafficking and make communities safer. Perhaps. But I'm here to tell you, as a doctor, that despite all the talk about the medical benefits of marijuana, smoking the stuff is not going to do your health any good. And if you get high before climbing behind the wheel of a car, you will be putting yourself and those around you in danger. |
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huh
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is he gonna try to make tobacco and alcohol illegal too or what
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NO FATS
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Don't forget, everything at McDonalds
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huh
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this guy isn't smart enough to realize that "IT'S NOT GOOD FOR YOU!!!" is not a good enough reason? wtf?
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I'm sure he's smart enough, but I don't really think that matters when your target audience is made of of your bosses at TIME and TIME readers.
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Minion of Satan
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My Fiesta Name is Pendejo
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or what ****** said kind of calls into question what relevance anything he has to say is. Since he's completely unaware of pot today. |
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My Fiesta Name is Pendejo
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Two other things, it's not addicting physically. I quit using daily sometime during the summer and altogether since October and have had absolutely no physical urges to smoke since.
All my car accidents under the influence of drugs were when I was drunk. None when I was high. But booze is legal. |
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Minion of Satan
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anecdotal evidence.
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Apocalyptic Poster
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sanjay gupta was the name of a character in my class 5 english book
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Master of Karate and Friendship
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Paid for by the Anheuser-Busch corporation.
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Apocalyptic Poster
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weed should be legal and taxed well.
I wish people would wake the fuck up. I've never used it but damn does this issue tick me off. |
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Apocalyptic Poster
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Would it be more or less expensive if it were legal? I assume it would be more expensive since it would be taxed, but I'm no economist.
I smoke a lot of pot but I really don't mind it's legal status. You have to be pretty fucking retarded to get caught with it unless you're selling. Right now it's cheap and readily available, so whatever. |
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The Man of Tomorrow
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My Fiesta Name is Pendejo
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yeah then i'd just grow my own
from what i understand the only real difficulty lies in concealing it and making sure it gets light |
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Second. You can easily get caught and just be a user. I've seen 3 people this year who have worked at my work for over 20 years get hurt on the job, just severe enough to warrant a clinic visit, get automatically drug tested(like most big employers) and then get FIRED for marijuana use. It's bullshit. For clarification: Testing positive for marijuana use does NOT mean you are high at the time. Also think of all the money you are paying in taxes to fight marijuana use and users. Wake up. Last edited by dudehitscar : 01-07-2009 at 07:54 PM. |
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My Fiesta Name is Pendejo
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little white kids don't know this stuff
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Apocalyptic Poster
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Immortal
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He sounds like a real fucking idiot.
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Socialphobic
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addicting lol
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has great self of steam.
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I can't believe Obama picked this guy. Hilarious.
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Apocalyptic Poster
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The article is so poorly constructed it almost reads like some type of weird reverse psychology pro-weed progaganda.
"The first is that marijuana isn't really very good for you. True, there are health benefits for some patients. Several recent studies, including a new one from the Scripps Research Institute, show that THC, the chemical in marijuana responsible for the high, can help slow the progress of Alzheimer's disease. (In fact, it seems to block the formation of disease-causing plaques better than several mainstream drugs.) Other studies have shown THC to be a very effective antinausea treatment for people--cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy, for example--for whom conventional medications aren't working. And medical cannabis has shown promise relieving pain in patients with multiple sclerosis and reducing intraocular pressure in glaucoma patients." |
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Amish Rake Fighter
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So less than an ounce is basically legal here now.. many police chiefs from surrounding Boston cities are saying it's too much of a pain in the ass to issue the tickets and have bluntly said their officers will not be issuing the tickets
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Professional
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1. Prohibition always creates more problems than it solves
2. Legal weed could jeopardize the financial stability of certain drug companies 3. Nobody has every died from smoking weed If you're concerned about your lungs and short term memory, don't smoke. The reasons for marijuana's illegality are purely political and anyone who believes otherwise is uninformed or delusional. |
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oh for fuck's sake
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Apocalyptic Poster
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I would not rock fake Js.
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Apocalyptic Poster
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wow i'm actually going to not read time anymore. i've still liked the occasional interesting piece of theirs even though its just time warner but this is really dumbed down for them and really insulting. next month's letters column will have some outraged professor from california running down all the old pro-legalization points and then painted with just enough shades of conspiracy theorist.
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Immortal
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Isn't this the logic behind "If we let gay people marry, we'll have to let people marry animals and multiple spouses too!!"?
Why isn't it a good enough reason? |
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My Fiesta Name is Pendejo
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See above. |
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huh
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