RIP Gizmo

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Sarcastic Smile

Your idea of accomplishment vacuous.

no more can be said by you or trots about accomplishments or productivity until you actually say something that gives someone an idea as to what you could possibly mean.

[ravenguy2000]

Originally Posted by Sarcastic Smile

port is a desert wine, usually expensive (especially if aged) but not always. A snifter is also a type of glass, usually cognac is served in it.

i've ignored you until now but i think the rest of the board is right,

[Eulogy]

http://www.estronaut.com/a/pregnancy_with_marijuana.htm

i wouldn't think that doing any sort of drug could ever be beneficial for something residing in your uterus.

[maoi]

Originally Posted by ravenguy2000

i've ignored you until now but i think the rest of the board is right,

she was just answering your question.

[Sarcastic Smile]

Originally Posted by maoi

Why does it have to have a positive effect on your life? Why can't it just be fun? You think you're arguing with rationality but you're also coupling it with hyperbole. You have some weird prejudice against pot smokers I think it shows. I think you're the one who ought to be a little more open minded and not so haughty with this topic.

no im not exaggerating at all. I'm not saying your life will go down in flames if you smoke... im simply saying that there are a lot of people who are better off without it. I am not prejudice against pot smokers I hav a few friends who smoke here and there and it's whatever, in that same token im sure i know plenty of burn outs.. i can see why you would think that because i keep going at it.. which im going to stop right about now, because i just had an epiphany(im arguing with people who smoke pot and are going to remain defensive) I am open minded with people who want to do that as a fun thing or whatever, Live and let live, I am a big girl I make my own decisions and they make theirs.. but once someone crosses the line where it becomes a problem and they dont see it having a negative effect on their life then no, i dont want them around me. I don't that kind of negativity in my life and I wouldnt ever want to watch a friend fuck their life up if that's what they choose to do.. that goes for all drugs

[Eulogy]

there's also this though

http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/

Myth: Marijuana Causes an Amotivational Syndrome. Marijuana makes users passive, apathetic, and uninterested in the future. Students who use marijuana become underachievers and workers who use marijuana become unproductive.

Fact: For twenty-five years, researchers have searched for a marijuana-induced amotivational syndrome and have failed to find it. People who are intoxicated constantly, regardless of the drug, are unlikely to be productive members of society. There is nothing about marijuana specifically that causes people to lose their drive and ambition. In laboratory studies, subjects given high doses of marijuana for several days or even several weeks exhibit no decrease in work motivation or productivity. Among working adults, marijuana users tend to earn higher wages than non-users. College students who use marijuana have the same grades as nonusers. Among high school students, heavy use is associated with school failure, but school failure usually comes first.

*
Himmelstein, J.L. The Strange Career of Marihuana: Politics and Ideology of Drug Control in America. Westport, CT: Greenwood Press, 1983.

*
Mellinger, G.D. et al. “Drug Use, Academic Performance, and Career Indecision: Longitudinal Data in Search of a Model.” Longitudinal Research on Drug Use: Empirical Findings and Methodological Issues. Ed. D.B. Kandel. Washington, DC: American Psychological Association, 1978. 157-177.

*
Pope, H.G. et al., “Drug Use and Life Style Among College Undergraduates in 1989: A Comparison With 1969 and 1978,” American Journal of Psychiatry 147 (1990): 998-1001.


who knows how valid any of this is. not me. something to think about though.

[Ol' Couch Ass]

Originally Posted by KrazeeStacee

Why doesn't it make it right? Does it cause birth defects?

Don't you think it could help women with morning sickness and possibly help with the pain/stress of being pregnant in general?

I'm sure the effects for the mother could be positive. However while one study in Jamaica may be producing numbers saying there is no problem with it there are countless other studies (not just bullshit american drug association ones either) that are just a google click away and present very different findings. The general consensus is that exposure to thc in the womb often contributes to a higher rate of spontaneous miscarriage, low fetal weight and increased evidence of learning disabilities later in life.

Again I'm pro weed for anyone who wants it but exposure to any pollutant/irritant while pregnant is cause for concern let alone purposefully exposing an unborn child to a powerful psychoactive drug.

[Eulogy]

http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/2227.html

that seems like a more.....uhhh unbiased source, i guess.

[maoi]

Originally Posted by Sarcastic Smile

no im not exaggerating at all. I'm not saying your life will go down in flames if you smoke... im simply saying that there are a lot of people who are better off without it. I am not prejudice against pot smokers I hav a few friends who smoke here and there and it's whatever, in that same token im sure i know plenty of burn outs.. i can see why you would think that because i keep going at it.. which im going to stop right about now, because i just had an epiphany(im arguing with people who smoke pot and are going to remain defensive) I am open minded with people who want to do that as a fun thing or whatever, Live and let live, I am a big girl I make my own decisions and they make theirs.. but once someone crosses the line where it becomes a problem and they dont see it having a negative effect on their life then no, i dont want them around me. I don't that kind of negativity in my life and I wouldnt ever want to watch a friend fuck their life up if that's what they choose to do.. that goes for all drugs

well thats all you really had to say, i dont think anyone would disagree with that

[ravenguy2000]

Originally Posted by maoi

she was just answering your question.

it's my fault for wording that so it sounded like i didn't know what port or a snifter is, i was trying to refer to the beverage in the picture byut i'm a retard so there you go.

anyway if there's any question as to what marijuana does to people just watch this

[Eulogy]

If you smoked pot before you realized you were pregnant, don't panic. The chance that your baby has been affected is very small. Still, it's important to be honest with your practitioner about your previous use of pot and other recreational drugs. She may want to run some extra tests to be sure your baby is developing normally.

http://www.babycenter.com/404_is-it-...gnancy_2490.bc

[Ol' Couch Ass]

Originally Posted by ravenguy2000

it's my fault for wording that so it sounded like i didn't know what port or a snifter is, i was trying to refer to the beverage in the picture byut i'm a retard so there you go.

anyway if there's any question as to what marijuana does to people just watch this

So that's what Stacee's apartment looks like. j/k ks

[ravenguy2000]

lol!

[Sarcastic Smile]

Originally Posted by KrazeeStacee

1. I used to not eat much, never had an appetite and it was a pretty serious problem I had. Pot makes me hungry...and helps me to enjoy food so eating isn't just a chore for me.

2. I used to have problems sleeping. Like some people, I'd lay in bed for hours and stare at the ceiling, my mind couldn't calm down, my body couldn't calm down (RLS anyone?) and I wasn't tired no matter what I did. Smoking a bong before bed relaxes me and by the time I lay my head on the pillow I'm out.

3. I'm a happier person. I have anger issues and definitely as a result have some road rage - if I get high when I'm pissed off I automatically relax.

Those are just a few, I'm sure you don't even care anyway. I'm just trying to explain to you that you're just fucking retarded and have little to NO idea what you're talking about. Just because you smoked pot before and you know some people who do it doesn't make you qualified to talk about the absolutes of weed. There are no absolutes because everyone is different and until someone drops dead from smoking weed, no one here can tell me it's any more dangerous than the smoke itself.

Ahhh....weed threads.

1. Well in one of your posts before you said you last 10 lbs. like it was a good thing, so i take that as eating has obviously become a problem for you

2. I dont know what to tell you there, i have some friends who say that they smoke before bed because it helps them and that's good if it helps, but if you have a real sleeping problem you are just putting a band-aid on a something that needs stitches.

3. "putting a band-aid on a something that needs stitches."

why are you acting like this all started because of you? I never said that you were a pot smoking loser, i know nothing about you and cannot make any judgement about your life. you are taking this very personal now

" Just because you smoked pot before and you know some people who do it doesn't make you qualified to talk about the absolutes of weed."

Oh do you have your degree in potology? You are just unqualified as I am, and once again.. I AM NOT SAYING EVERYONE WHO SMOKES POT IS A LOSER

[Fattening Ass]

whats the big deal, stacee would just abort it anyways

[hnibos]

were all so productive, posting on netphoria

[KrazeeStacee]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

http://www.estronaut.com/a/pregnancy_with_marijuana.htm

i wouldn't think that doing any sort of drug could ever be beneficial for something residing in your uterus.

I don't have time to read that now but I glanced over it and I don't see any references there or any real proof.

But my point is, I've read articles too and those articles say that the studies in the past that have shown decreased birth weight were faulty tests and they've discovered recently that it's not true, that in some cases the baby's birthweight can actually increase. Someone do some research for me and give me some hard proof here. I'm obviously not having babies so you don't have to worry about me but I'm curious now.

[Fattening Ass]

Originally Posted by KrazeeStacee

1. I used to not eat much, never had an appetite and it was a pretty serious problem I had. ALCOHOL makes me hungry...and helps me to enjoy food so eating isn't just a chore for me.

2. I used to have problems sleeping. Like some people, I'd lay in bed for hours and stare at the ceiling, my mind couldn't calm down, my body couldn't calm down (RLS anyone?) and I wasn't tired no matter what I did. Drinking ALCOHOL before bed relaxes me and by the time I lay my head on the pillow I'm out.

3. I'm a happier person. I have anger issues and definitely as a result have some road rage - if I get BUZZED when I'm pissed off I automatically relax.

lets see how this works with Alcohol instead

[KrazeeStacee]

Originally Posted by Ol' Couch Ass

I'm sure the effects for the mother could be positive. However while one study in Jamaica may be producing numbers saying there is no problem with it there are countless other studies (not just bullshit american drug association ones either) that are just a google click away and present very different findings. The general consensus is that exposure to thc in the womb often contributes to a higher rate of spontaneous miscarriage, low fetal weight and increased evidence of learning disabilities later in life.

Again I'm pro weed for anyone who wants it but exposure to any pollutant/irritant while pregnant is cause for concern let alone purposefully exposing an unborn child to a powerful psychoactive drug.

Google click away, I don't have time for that I'm running out the door - can you find them since it's so easy and plentiful? Also, read above.

[Ol' Couch Ass]

Stacee which study are you alluding to? Is it the study from the early 1980s?

[Sarcastic Smile]

[quote=maoi;3231414]Guys please stop fighting and judging each toher[/QUOTE

I am not judging her or anyone for that matter.

Originally Posted by maoi

thats not even touching the medical benefits for cacner patients and others who have diseases.

Many of the medical benefits are to cope with the pain. Very few actually help fix the problem

Originally Posted by KrazeeStacee

Why doesn't it make it right? Does it cause birth defects?

Don't you think it could help women with morning sickness and possibly help with the pain/stress of being pregnant in general?

So you are saying woman should do things that could be harmful to the fetus to cope the issues during pregnancy? If that's the case that might as well pop a few vicodin to help with pain. Have you ever been pregnant? Do you know what that feels like? Do you think any pain remedy is worth CHANCING damaging your kid? It probably does help cope with pregnancy, but that doesn't make it right.

Originally Posted by KrazeeStacee

Soo...you still haven't answered my question of what productive is...

And I was talking about my friends in college because you were talking about your loser pot smoking "acquantainces" being what you base your opinion off of because that's what your personal experience is. I was telling you mine.

So what is productive?

I didn't answer your question because I was stuck on page 5.. you sure are name calling a lot.. which to me indicates desperation and insecurity. I am not just basing my opinion off the losers I know I, like yourself, know plenty of people who function and smoke.. some recreational some everyday.. the ones that do excessively everyday and lead normal lives(which are not many), in comparison to people i know who dont, are much farther behind, but that is just from my experience. The only thing people can base their opinion on is person experience because there are not solid studies of this in detail. And obviously we both have very different experiences...

Originally Posted by ravenguy2000

i've ignored you until now but i think the rest of the board is right,

Okay that's fine, but I was just offering up a little info. Obviously you haven't ignored me if you know whats going on, maybe disagree but not ignore

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by KrazeeStacee

Or because I hurt your poor wittle feewings?

No it's because you're arguing that I should keep smoking weed because it's good for Jamacian babies. And I have no respect at all for you considering how often you complain about being poor but you're not strong enough to put the joint down for more than 15 minutes to see what life is like outside of the hazy bubble.

Get lost.

[ravenguy2000]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

No it's because you're arguing that I should keep smoking weed because it's good for Jamacian babies.

ok this made me laugh

[Trotskilicious]

Look it's simple: I have a drug problem. I think ****** has a drug problem, and I think Stacy is a moron.

I quit smoking pot. Lots of you don't have drug problems but smoke pot and that's cool. Who cares. A joint every now and again isn't going to crush your whole life. I'd smoke from daybreak to nightfall just to hide from shit so I'm going to quit forever. I'd be so stoned that I'd make excuses "Well, I can't do such and such today, I'm too high. I'll do it tomorrow." Then the next day I'd do a wake-n-bake and be stoned all day and say the same thing. It's like how alcoholics can't ever touch a drink again because they have a serious problem with controlling themselves.

But this Marley Fest Handout shit about how many benefits weed has for people is moronic. If we're talking about pain relief for glaucoma and shit, yeah sure. Whatever. And yes, it should be decriminalized and legalized but I'm not going to ever touch the shit again and I will look down on people who smoke on a daily basis and go to Yoga class heavy lidded and looking like a dunce. I mean if your greatest aspiration in life is to be a belly dancing instructor then continue to smoke yourself retarded, have a fucking blast.

I mean if these heavy stoners just once stayed sober and watched how other people are when they're sober and the other people are high it might hit them like a ton of bricks that it's fucking boring and it is a serious problem if you're making yourself stoned on a daily basis. It's not even good to be drinking on a daily basis, even if you're just getting "buzzed." or whatever. You need, want, require the "glow" and that's a pretty sad existence.

[Sarcastic Smile]

Originally Posted by ciGarski

what the fuck are you even talking about? theres nothing in this post that you're not guilty of.

i flipped you some shit in forum9 and you pm me your thoughts about it.

i flip you shit in some other thread, you pm me about it again.

charmbag said something about me, i responded to it and look who popped up in the thread. you.

and as long as you're going to be a dumb judgmental bitch about everything in threads im posting in, i'm going to call you out on it.

just happens i think mayfuck's a narcissistic piece of shit too and don't mind telling him.


*awaits pm*

stop bragging that i pm'ed you, i sent you the answer to a comment you made, not my thoughts and feelings, you're acting like a sent you a love letter you fucking freak.. you are the one who said i was short with you and tried to chat me up, I wasnt in the mood and you must have taken it personal, i never had any problems with you before but you are really manifesting shit out of nowhere constantly to antagonize us. post all the pm's if you want i dont even remember what the fuck they say but you obviously are taking them way more serious than i do.. so pour your little heart out. You make no fucking sense in this matter.. you started this shit with some random left fielded rep comment , for a picture that was what the thread was about (maybe you got jealous because I cant figure out why you would make such a big deal about me posting my second picture ever) that had nothing to do with you and your comment was so fucking random, ..and I just replied to you rep comment, nicely btw. ever since you just keep making random stupid comments.

Is this some kind of publicity stunt? im ignoring you from now on go fuck yourself

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

Look it's simple: I have a drug problem. I think ****** has a drug problem, and I think Stacy is a moron.

I quit smoking pot. Lots of you don't have drug problems but smoke pot and that's cool. Who cares. A joint every now and again isn't going to crush your whole life. I'd smoke from daybreak to nightfall just to hide from shit so I'm going to quit forever. I'd be so stoned that I'd make excuses "Well, I can't do such and such today, I'm too high. I'll do it tomorrow." Then the next day I'd do a wake-n-bake and be stoned all day and say the same thing. It's like how alcoholics can't ever touch a drink again because they have a serious problem with controlling themselves.

But this Marley Fest Handout shit about how many benefits weed has for people is moronic. If we're talking about pain relief for glaucoma and shit, yeah sure. Whatever. And yes, it should be decriminalized and legalized but I'm not going to ever touch the shit again and I will look down on people who smoke on a daily basis and go to Yoga class heavy lidded and looking like a dunce. I mean if your greatest aspiration in life is to be a belly dancing instructor then continue to smoke yourself retarded, have a fucking blast.

I mean if these heavy stoners just once stayed sober and watched how other people are when they're sober and the other people are high it might hit them like a ton of bricks that it's fucking boring and it is a serious problem if you're making yourself stoned on a daily basis. It's not even good to be drinking on a daily basis, even if you're just getting "buzzed." or whatever. You need, want, require the "glow" and that's a pretty sad existence.

you have a drug problem and cannot function as you'd like to when you smoke. plenty of people can smoke every day without running into the problems you ran into. you're taking your circumstances and issues and problems and shoveling them onto everyone else.

you probably won't read this, but whatever.

[Fattening Ass]

Nah stacee has a problem if she has to smoke a bong load before bed every night

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

plenty of people can smoke every day without running into the problems you ran into. .

wrong.

you are advocating daily, habitual narcotic use. Anyone in the medical profession will tell you that this is not healthy. ANYONE. Do you know how dumb you sound?

There are far more long-term effects of habitual drug use that you're not even considering because you're on this "different strokes for different folks" crap when it's utter bullshit.

[Trotskilicious]

I mean do you really think someone can smoke weed every day for 10, 20 years and not be fucked in the head and stuck in deadendsville? I mean seriously.

[KrazeeStacee]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

No it's because you're arguing that I should keep smoking weed because it's good for Jamacian babies. And I have no respect at all for you considering how often you complain about being poor but you're not strong enough to put the joint down for more than 15 minutes to see what life is like outside of the hazy bubble.

Get lost.

Aw I hurt your feelings.