Universal Healthcare is Wonderful and Will Ensure Better Health care for everyone

[Trotskilicious]

i think maynard secretly loves genesis

[Order 66]

i help run a small business in conjunction with several other small businesses, and we're virtually unaffected by obamacare. but you don't see me pointing to that as evidence of anything

[Starla]

I mean what is the point in arguing about this with rbg? If I say the sky is blue, he'll say no... obama says it's white. So it will be white.

[Trotskilicious]

he's right though and eventually you'll capitulate

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Starla

Of course, they're all lying. It's not real.

Originally Posted by Starla

I mean what is the point in arguing about this with rbg? If I say the sky is blue, he'll say no... obama says it's white. So it will be white.

quite right, there is no point in arguing, because you are unable to address any points anyone brings up except when you can say well so and so said this with feeling ergo it must be indicative of the truth for millions and millions of people.

also you just really do. not. listen. after pages and pages of arguing about this over multiple threads, you still cannot stop challenging everything I say by trying to paint me as an obama zombie. which is exactly what keeps leading me back to my assumption that you see morality as bipolar with no grey room in between extremes. he voted for obama, he loves dead pakistanis! I'm not voting until I can support a candidate who won't kill anybody!

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

personal accounts are the least reliable kind of evidence and are the least likely to be useful in illuminating the big picture on issues, especially issues that affect multitudes of human beings and are very complex.

Originally Posted by Starla

Of course, they're all lying. It's not real.

this is my point, right here. As a decently educated person who at one time in her life must have had to write at least a few persuasive arguments, you should know what any freshman in ENG101 knows, that anecdotal evidence is the weakest way to support your stance.

and then instead of, I dunno, saying anything else, your rebuttal move is to hit me from the most extreme polar opposite you can, and try to make it seem like I said those who give personal accounts are all liars

edit: which is not even a real argument, it's a conscious twisting of the meaning of what I said

[Trotskilicious]

see he has outsmarted you in every department, he is the most clever of all. he's been to college. he went to greece.

[redbreegull]

I'm so glad we have you and futureboy here to be inane dickbags to people you don't like even when you know they are correct

but I mean go ahead and help support the burgeoning belief in American society that not knowing things is just as good as knowing them

[Starla]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

he's right though and eventually you'll capitulate

Just wait till Hillary what difference does it make Clinton runs.

[hnibos]

Originally Posted by Starla

All those people are just lying.

My friend sent me a text bitching about how she doesnt have insurance anymore. It was because the company she worked for was not willing to provide her the insurance she had before. NOW she has to pay 50 dollars more a month and she actually has better coverage now and can totally afford it. Here's some anecdotal evidence I'm sure you'll ignore because Obama and shape shifting lizards.

[Starla]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

see he has outsmarted you in every department, he is the most clever of all. he's been to college. he went to greece.

I thought he went to Africa. Didn't he tell you that going to Africa would cure your depression?

[hnibos]

With that said, it's still not good enough and drone attacks are still happening unfortunately and don't let that post make you think that I think Obama isn't less than stellar because he is but my opinion is the middle of middle grounds.

[redbreegull]

red herring away starla. same shit in every post.

[redbreegull]

hnibos are you drunk? I feel like I can almost understand what you are saying but not quite

[hnibos]

I fixed it.

[hnibos]

I think.

[Starla]

Originally Posted by hnibos

My friend sent me a text bitching about how she doesnt have insurance anymore. It was because the company she worked for was not willing to provide her the insurance she had before. NOW she has to pay 50 dollars more a month and she actually has better coverage now and can totally afford it. Here's some anecdotal evidence I'm sure you'll ignore because Obama and shape shifting lizards.

Well, I'm sorry. Personal accounts are not real. RBG says so.

[hnibos]

And yes.

[redbreegull]

Originally Posted by Starla

Well, I'm sorry. Personal accounts are not real. RBG says so.

seriously. same shit. in every fucking post. you can't possibly be serious. You wonder why so many people throw you in with the tea partiers and TOC so often when your views don't line up, it's because you either have no problem blatantly twisting the meaning behind what others say, or you honestly don't know you are doing it.

[Starla]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

red herring away starla. same shit in every post.

[hnibos]

Originally Posted by Starla

Well, I'm sorry. Personal accounts are not real. RBG says so.

My point is that personal accounts about the misery of Obamacare is fucking pointless because there are other people really benefiting from it and vice versa. Maybe there are more, I don't fucking know. We still don't have single payer, we're still bombing the shit out of other countries, we still have a war on drugs, but at least a mormon isn't leading the country. What kind I say, I'm an optimist.

[Starla]

Originally Posted by redbreegull

seriously. same shit. in every fucking post. you can't possibly be serious. You wonder why so many people throw you in with the tea partiers and TOC so often when your views don't line up, it's because you either have no problem blatantly twisting the meaning behind what others say, or you honestly don't know you are doing it.

I'm only repeating what you said.

[Starla]

Originally Posted by hnibos

My point is that personal accounts about the misery of Obamacare is fucking pointless because there are other people really benefiting from it and vice versa.

........

[redbreegull]

no you aren't, you're a fucking liar

edit: or you are not sane if you honestly believe you are repeating what I say

[Starla]

Get a hold of yourself. Jesus.

[hnibos]

Originally Posted by Starla

........

What are you trying to say?

[hnibos]

All I'm saying is the ends could justify the means.

[Starla]

Originally Posted by redbreegull View Post
personal accounts are the least reliable kind of evidence and are the least likely to be useful in illuminating the big picture on issues, especially issues that affect multitudes of human beings and are very complex.

[hnibos]

If there are more people benefiting from it than not, than fuck it, it's better than the status quo.

[Starla]

Are these personal accounts only valid, if they are positive ones?