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[duovamp]

Don't be such a rube.

[Debaser]

Originally Posted by Red Scarlet

2 million of those "rubes" stormed DC last weekend. that's twice as many people who showed up for the obama inaguration

i think it's safe to say that we're getting our country back

not 2 million.

try 75,000

[Future Boy]

they have a wikipedia entry, wtf

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Red Scarlet

2 million of those "rubes" stormed DC last weekend. that's twice as many people who showed up for the obama inaguration

i think it's safe to say that we're getting our country back

i'm trying so hard to overlook this person but goddamn it is hard when you know that people like this actually exist

[Trotskilicious]

dude they're getting their country back!

[duovamp]

These rubes are a clever bunch.

[Nimrod's Son]

[Eulogy]

wait.

wait wait. this guy espouses your views? holy fucking hell.

"we're not gonna allow the private sector to fix this for us."

he put up so many straw men i don't even know where to start.

[killtrocity]

Originally Posted by Red Scarlet

but i have to say it is extremely demeaning and offensive to assume that all my opinions are regurgitated from my husband. women can form sound opinions on their own. i'm going to guess that eulogy is unmarried or never had girlfriend and that's where his hostility towards women comes from

It's funny how you respond to a gender stereotype with another of your own

[Nimrod's Son]

... and so it begins.
Task force recommends fewer breast cancer screenings | Idaho News from KTVB.COM | Boise news, Idaho weather, sports, traffic & events | News

Task force recommends fewer breast cancer screenings


by KTVB
Posted on November 16, 2009 at 10:50 PM
Updated today at 10:57 PM


A federal task force came out with new recommendations Monday regarding breast cancer screenings. Their guidelines differ from what women have long been told.

It was previously recommended women start annual mammograms at age 40. Now the government says those women shouldn’t get a mammogram unless they’re at high risk. Instead, women should start mammograms when they turn 50 and get them every other year. Researchers rewriting the guidelines say any benefit from an early mammogram is outweighed by the unnecessary panic it can cause.

"That is, the likelihood of having a false positive test with all the attendant anxiety, the additional imaging tests, perhaps
even leading to biopsy that may have been unnecessary," Dr. Diana Petitti of the Preventive Services Task Force said.

The task force says women in their 40s typically have denser breasts, so false positives are more likely to appear in their mammograms. Researchers on the task force also found that self-breast exams don't reduce breast cancer death rates.
However, not everyone in the medical field agrees with the new guidelines. One of the major groups in disagreement is the American Cancer Society. Local health professionals and survivors KTVB talked to also question the recommendations.

They would rather women get screened and be anxious about the results than wait and find out when it's too late. Registered nurse Jill Winschell believes early detection is critical.

"Bottom line- we will catch cancers at a later stage and the survival will be poor," said Winschell.

She says tumors double in size every six months and if a woman waits to be screened, the cancer could spread and be harder to remove. Winschell says if done early, treatment is more comfortable for the patient.

"You have more options for surgical treatment and you have more options for chemotherapy and treatment. You're less likely to have to have chemotherapy," she said.
Cheryl Imlach of Boise says she's proof early detection saves lives. The 41-year-old was healthy and did not consider herself at risk. She found her own breast cancer by doing a self exam. She says if she had followed the recommendations and waited until she was 50, she probably would not be alive. Imlach worries the new breast cancer screening recommendations will undo public awareness. She hopes women will continue to think the same way as before: monthly breast self-exams and mammograms every year.

“You're your own advocate for your own healthcare,” said Imlach. "Women have a knack and an intuition of knowing when something is not right with their body," said Imlach.
Winschell says Idaho has a low rate of mammography screenings. She says contributing factors are women with no education, women who are low-income and the fact that much of Idaho is rural. For this reason, she says self-breast exams are a must.

Last year in Idaho, 180 people died of breast cancer. The disease is the third-leading cause of cancer deaths in the state behind lung and colorectal cancers.

[jczeroman]

Over here, Sadie and I were shocked at how the "medical science" in the UK dictates that suddenly many preventative tests and operations are either not necessary or not needed until much later then the US recommends.

[Future Boy]

were you really shocked

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

... and so it begins.

what begins, the shameless cost saving measures of the insurance industry who has bought and paid for every person in washington?




well duh

[Trotskilicious]

i mean i know you're trolling and everything but still

[Order 66]

this parallels almost identically to germany in the 1930s

[ryan patrick]

That article gives a stupid reason but in reality mammograms like xrays can contribute to causing cancer in some individuals so this is a smart move

in a few years age of breast cancer screening will probably be tailored to individuals based on genetic screens anyway

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

what begins, the shameless cost saving measures of the insurance industry who has bought and paid for every person in washington?




well duh

The government is poised to take over healthcare and they've set their "task forces" on finding out where they can save money at the expense of good health. This is just the first example.

[publius clodius]

rp you're some kind of biology student right

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

The government is poised to take over healthcare.

huh? do you live in an alternate reality where this is happening or are you just trolling

[ryan patrick]

yeah, ph.d. program in molecular biology

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

huh? do you live in an alternate reality where this is happening or are you just trolling

have you been in a coma for the past 6 months when the plan shifted from "fix the economy" to "forget the economy, let's take over healthcare"

[publius clodius]

Originally Posted by ryan patrick

yeah, ph.d. program in molecular biology

how would you evaluate job chances in the field

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

have you been in a coma for the past 6 months when the plan shifted from "fix the economy" to "forget the economy, let's take over healthcare"

...

[ryan patrick]

Originally Posted by publius clodius

how would you evaluate job chances in the field

I don't think much about it, the jobs are there. getting a professor position is hard but there are plenty of other options.

it'll be 3 more years before i have to think about what I'm going to do after I defend.

[jczeroman]

Originally Posted by Future Boy

were you really shocked

Not for the first few things, but the sum of all of them adds up very quickly.

[jczeroman]

Let me also take this time to note that I broke my finger in July and I still have not had a doctor properly look at it (I am currently scheduled by the government to have it seen at the end of this month). It has healed wrong and I still cannot play guitar right, and have bouts of pain whenever I move it too much.

BUT I HAVE ONLY PAID $968 WORTH OF NHS TAXES IN THAT TIME, SO I'M GETTING A KILLER DEAL.

[Nimrod's Son]

What were your options for going to a private doctor and paying to have it looked at?

[jczeroman]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

What were your options for going to a private doctor and paying to have it looked at?

I'd have to have private insurance - and after my bills, groceries and the extortionate taxes, I have about $35 left over a month to use on things - and that isn't quite enough for private care.

[Nimrod's Son]

No I meant for a one time visit, not insurance?

[talk show host]

The NHS is a gas