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Old 01-14-2008, 07:08 PM   #121
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I am fairly sure that in the United States Pearl Jam is a lot more popular than Radiohead.
this is what was the stupid statement i saw. michael jackson is more popular around the world than radiohead, im not arguing that.

 
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:09 PM   #122
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See I disagree with this part...I guess...but at least we agree on the really important things. Like them sucking.
how can you disagree?

Pearl Jam = 60 million album sales

Radiohead = 25 million album sales


not even half. this is fact. Pearl Jam are more popular than Radiohead

 
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:10 PM   #123
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Michael Jackson's sold over 100 million albums...in one album. That's a completely ludicrous comparison.

 
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:11 PM   #124
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goddamn this shit.

i am not comparing Michael Jackson to Pearl Jam. I am telling you that current popularity does not necessarily equate to higher ticket sales.

im done with this.

 
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:12 PM   #125
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how can you disagree?

Pearl Jam = 60 million album sales

Radiohead = 25 million album sales


not even half. this is fact. Pearl Jam are more popular than Radiohead
Well, how about the fact that they were popular in very different music eras? Pearl Jam hasn't cracked a million in like a decade. You can't compare album sales from one era to the next, that just doesn't work.

 
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:16 PM   #126
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goddamn this shit.

i am not comparing Michael Jackson to Pearl Jam. I am telling you that current popularity does not necessarily equate to higher ticket sales.

im done with this.
I hate Pearl Jam so I don't know why I'm even bothering with this either, but the point was that Michael Jackson and Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd are completely different animals than Pearl Jam. Their popularity wasn't confined to a few years in the sun, but rather had years and years and years of success, building massive and dedicated fan bases. Completely different. Pearl Jam is much more analogous to SP or Alice in Chains or Nirvana or whatever other alt-rock band of the 90's.

BAH I lost interest typing that last sentence and I'm done.

 
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:17 PM   #127
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yes, being popular in different eras. Thank you! you've just proven my point. CURRENT popularity vs HISTORICAL popularity.

if Michael Jackson announced a World Tour tomorrow, those shows would sell out in an instant.

 
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:18 PM   #128
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Not Michael Jackson again! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....ah whatever fuck it.

 
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:19 PM   #129
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selling 60 Million albums means that Pearl Jam are a pretty huge band. the Pumpkins sold around 19 million in the US alone, so lets say 25-30 million worldwide, ok? Thats HALF of Pearl Jams number.

 
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:20 PM   #130
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Not Michael Jackson again! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo....ah whatever fuck it.
you are really frustrating me with your inability to see my point.

 
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:30 PM   #131
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Yes, you're saying that Michael Jackson is not popular NOW. I agree, to an extent. Despite him not being popular NOW, he was popular THEN, so he still fills seats. However, I'm saying that Michael Jackson's level of popularity was so great that it blurs any NOW-THEN distinction. Pearl Jam has never reached a level where their popularity would span generations. They had their time, and now they play regular arena shows and enjoy middling album sales. Like the Smashing Pumpkins.

 
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:33 PM   #132
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but but but what about the jamily

 
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:34 PM   #133
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However, I'm saying that Michael Jackson's level of popularity was so great that it blurs any NOW-THEN distinction
i see what you are saying, but it "blurs" nothing.

my point stands, you can disagree all you like.

but Pearl Jam fucking suck

 
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:34 PM   #134
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Pearl Jam has never reached a level where their popularity would span generations.
this is because they suck. Despite selling 60 million records.

 
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:34 PM   #135
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Good, I agree, I'm never clicking on this thread again!

 
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Old 01-14-2008, 07:35 PM   #136
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see u at the next MJ show

 
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Old 01-14-2008, 08:52 PM   #137
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christ i fucking hate pearl jam fans

 
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Old 01-14-2008, 09:59 PM   #138
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christ i fucking hate pearl jam fans
Too bad there are more of 'em in the U.S. than Radiohead fans, eh?

 
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Old 01-14-2008, 10:07 PM   #139
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this thread sucks.

they need to just announce the actual dates/venues.

 
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Old 01-14-2008, 10:18 PM   #140
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Too bad there are more of 'em in the U.S. than Radiohead fans, eh?
good thing i support michael jackson

 
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Old 01-14-2008, 11:28 PM   #141
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victory is sweet

 
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Old 01-15-2008, 12:13 AM   #142
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Old 01-15-2008, 12:39 AM   #143
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One thing Radiohead has goin' for it that other bands mentioned in this thread, like SP & PJ don't, is the fact that their current material is being raved about by everyone, from music critics, RH's fans, and casual fans (the buzz of the internet release helped also). Aside from the talk of how much they all love the name-your-own-price deal that the band did, everyone that's heard this album is in agreement that it's great stuff. When a band's current album is touted so highly, it will only help them to sellout wherever they play. So unlike SP & PJ, whose recent albums were viewed as "Meh, okay" by most people or even slammed by longtime fans, :cough: Netphoria :cough:, those who are thinkin' about seeing RH will be just as eager to hear stuff from In Rainbows as the classic or rare songs, thus making 'em more willing to go to the show.

 
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Old 01-15-2008, 02:57 AM   #145
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everyone that's heard this album is in agreement that it's great stuff.
I'm not, I'm just not very vocal about it because it's so 'meh' for me.

I was asked if I wanted to go and see radiohead this year and I've skipped it because I'm not huge on the album and the last time I saw them I felt it was kinda laclustre.

 
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Old 01-15-2008, 03:01 AM   #146
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One thing Radiohead has goin' for it that other bands mentioned in this thread, like SP & PJ don't, is the fact that their current material is being raved about by everyone, from music critics, RH's fans, and casual fans (the buzz of the internet release helped also). Aside from the talk of how much they all love the name-your-own-price deal that the band did, everyone that's heard this album is in agreement that it's great stuff. When a band's current album is touted so highly, it will only help them to sellout wherever they play. So unlike SP & PJ, whose recent albums were viewed as "Meh, okay" by most people or even slammed by longtime fans, :cough: Netphoria :cough:, those who are thinkin' about seeing RH will be just as eager to hear stuff from In Rainbows as the classic or rare songs, thus making 'em more willing to go to the show.
Pearl Jam's latest record was pretty much acclaimed all over as the best thing they've done in a decade, I don't know where you get your info, but I remember pretty much everyone loving it. Except of course for the haters in this thread.

Edit: Not that it is as good as In Rainbows, but it certainly wasn't received as coolly as you imply.

 
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Old 01-15-2008, 04:36 AM   #147
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don't magazines say that over and over again about every PJ album that comes out?

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Old 01-16-2008, 02:59 AM   #148
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don't magazines say that over and over again about every PJ album that comes out?
I don't know, I just know the latest one got a fair amount of praise dumped onto it, and I also know it is quite popular amongst the fans too. Whereas something like Zeitgeist is pretty much agreed to be a mediocre effort.

 
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don't magazines say that over and over again about every PJ album that comes out?
yeah they do

 
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Old 01-31-2008, 08:58 AM   #150
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So is there any update on this yet, dates/venues?

 
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