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12-23-2007, 04:50 PM | #1 |
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The Divine Invasion
It's already been mentioned that Mellon Collie was inspired partly by VALIS by Philip K. Dick (INCREDIBLE book, if you were wondering...), and just today I started reading The Divine Invasion, the sequel to VALIS. For those who don't know, it's basically about a woman who unwillingly becomes pregnant with God... sorta. There are mentions of Job here and there (obviously... seems pretty fitting), and this line caught my attention:
"I am a diseased rat in a kind of cage." Um. I just realized that this topic doesn't leave much room for discussion. I just thought it was interesting, is all. I think I like The Divine Invasion more than VALIS, so you guys should read them both. They're pretty quick reads anyway. conclusion: Billy steals his lyrics from sci-fi books. |
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12-23-2007, 05:05 PM | #2 |
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Yea.. I forget what interview it was but the interviewer mentions his lyrics referencing a certain book( a different one than the one you mention here).. and he gets all defensive about it..
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12-23-2007, 05:19 PM | #3 |
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rats have commonly been kept in cages for hundreds of years, probably ever since that plague thing.
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12-23-2007, 05:21 PM | #4 |
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tcm's always out to ruin my fun. I still underlined the line and wrote "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" next to it. It's a library book, so I probably just turned 9287489237 Philip K. Dick fans on to the Smashing Pumpkins. You're welcome, Billy.
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12-23-2007, 05:26 PM | #5 | |
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12-23-2007, 05:26 PM | #6 | |
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12-23-2007, 05:27 PM | #7 | |
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12-23-2007, 05:31 PM | #8 |
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that's actually what we're doing in PE right now. I OWN at that game. Seriously... I've been undefeated for like... weeks.
It's uncanny that you would suggest it... creep. |
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12-23-2007, 05:35 PM | #9 |
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yeah see.. who's the predator now!
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12-23-2007, 05:39 PM | #10 |
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that's just my luck, just my luck.
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12-23-2007, 06:19 PM | #11 |
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Why was he compared to Ellie Wiesel?
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12-23-2007, 06:32 PM | #12 |
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Elie. and it was your basic Internet troll.
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12-23-2007, 08:15 PM | #13 | |
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and i adore, i think i'm going to check out the books you mentioned above. |
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12-23-2007, 08:15 PM | #14 |
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i got into that whole EW thing for a while when it was being talked about on listessa. There were similarities for sure, particularly with reference to zero.
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12-23-2007, 08:23 PM | #15 | |
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Also, do read themmm! I can't stop (well, obviously I can since I'm here, but you know what I mean...) I love the way he writes |
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12-23-2007, 08:30 PM | #16 |
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we had different gym classes we could pick from.
there was "team sports" which was flag football, soccer, and other jock stuff. i did not take that. there was "weight room" which was full of meatheads, and i didn't take that either. there was "lifetime sports" which was floor hockey, golf, tennis, bowling- WHICH I ALWAYS TOOK! it was the best. all the non jock orchestra nerd stoner kids took it. there was also "project adventure" which i took sometimes too- we had a rock climbing wall in one of our gyms. that was awesome. but i'm always looking for books to read, but with the holidays i haven't had as much time to read. i have 2 books in cue to read! |
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12-23-2007, 08:33 PM | #17 |
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We're going bowling next term Fun stuff. I hated PE in middle school because I didn't have any friends (see: "Soma" post in Song a Day thread... ahhahahahaha PATHETIC!) But now I love it
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12-24-2007, 02:15 AM | #18 | |
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12-24-2007, 02:23 AM | #19 |
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Those aren't wiesel quotes in the original post
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12-24-2007, 02:26 AM | #20 |
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He's not talking about the original post in this thread. He's talking about the original post that he posted a link to.
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12-24-2007, 02:28 AM | #21 |
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doesn't anybody 'get' hyperlinks anymore?
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12-24-2007, 03:08 AM | #22 |
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Ahh I see..my mistake.
"BC> I think that music is headed towards a more hyper-poppy sound (ala Puffy) where people take old catchy things and combine them with new sounds and textures, hooks with sound collages." Ya think... "Listessa> Was MCIS influenced by the writing of Elie Wiesel? BC> (I) never even heard of him nor read any of his work. (I) was deeply insulted by the accusation of lyrical plagiarism. Anyone who knows me knows i would never be that lame. A guitar riff, maybe, but not words. There are only 12 notes, but a million words." There is a another interview, the one I was talking about, where the interviewer was very condescending..and kept inffering that "Listessa> Any final words for Listessa members? BC> I have read many discouraging things in regard to the lack of a future that my band has, or how we shouldn't change, or we used to be better. For those that live in the past, well you always have your c.d.'s there to keep you warm, or hopefully you saw a memorable show with the original lineup that you can dream back to. I know that i get sentimental sometimes for old days and times, but those days have passed. The band is not 20 anymore. We have seen a lot. We have been through a lot, and we can only pass our experiences through our music in a way that is in harmony with the people we are today, not yesterday. We wish everyone could be happy and satisfied but alas, it is not human nature. We never set out to be anything but ourselves. I would hope that our success could be viewed with pride and satisfaction, not as a sign that something has been ruined. For those of you that have been there from the start, well to you I can offer only gratitude. For those of you that have found us along the way, try to connect the dots and see everything in context. " It is very unfortunate that he has to repeat himself 9 years later! |
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12-24-2007, 03:33 AM | #23 | |
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"I have read many discouraging things in regard to the lack of a future
that my band has, or how we shouldn't change, or we used to be better. For those that live in the past, well you always have your c.d.'s there to keep you warm, or hopefully you saw a memorable show with the original lineup that you can dream back to. I know that i get sentimental sometimes for old days and times, but those days have passed. The band is not 20 anymore. We have seen a lot. We have been through a lot, and we can only pass our experiences through our music in a way that is in harmony with the people we are today, not yesterday. We wish everyone could be happy and satisfied but alas, it is not human nature. We never set out to be anything but ourselves. I would hope that our success could be viewed with pride and satisfaction, not as a sign that something has been ruined. For those of you that have been there from the start, well to you I can offer only gratitude. For those of you that have found us along the way, try to connect the dots and see everything in context." Quote:
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12-24-2007, 03:36 AM | #24 |
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i know
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12-24-2007, 04:18 AM | #25 | |
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12-24-2007, 05:47 AM | #26 |
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i saw a guy wearing a zero t-shirt when i went grocery shopping this evening. true story
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12-24-2007, 06:40 AM | #27 | |
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12-24-2007, 07:02 AM | #28 |
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Yeah I remember reading that book.
As well as the diseased rat in the cgae line, I distinctly remember a line in that book where it says Baby you're the greatest thing I got in a good way I suppose, Baby let's rock! |
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12-24-2007, 07:28 AM | #29 | |
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pretty much no one; too busy watching the tila tequila show and bobbing their heads to tarantula |
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12-24-2007, 12:01 PM | #30 |
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yeah that is totally happening. wake up, Mariner!
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