does anyone here NOT celebrate x-mas in any way? - Page 2

peabody · 12-21-2007, 03:08 PM

and if you add presents to the equation!

Pretzel Logic · 12-21-2007, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by peabody

lol why

It's not his supposed birthdate. No one knows the date of his birth. It was just the date picked to signify his birth.

peabody · 12-21-2007, 03:12 PM

that's why i said supposed. merely thought to be such. not supported by evidence. assumed as true by many people.

did that not make sense?!

ravenguy2000 · 12-21-2007, 03:13 PM

i wish bluestar could come back just for this thread

Debaser · 12-21-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by peabody

that's why i said supposed. merely thought to be such. not supported by evidence. assumed as true by many people.

did that not make sense?!

That's exactly what I thought you meant. Pretzel, you dunce.

Rockin' Cherub · 12-21-2007, 03:38 PM

i didn't know giving and receiving gifts was this loosely attached to american culture

i don't know anybody who doesn't celebrate christmas with all that it entails

Pretzel Logic · 12-21-2007, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by peabody

that's why i said supposed. merely thought to be such. not supported by evidence. assumed as true by many people.

did that not make sense?!

It's not even thought to be supposed. It's just a random fucking day they picked. Get it?!?!

Rockin' Cherub · 12-21-2007, 03:48 PM

pretzel logic is right. as far as i know even the bible implies that jesus was born in summer

peabody · 12-21-2007, 03:52 PM

you guys obviously don't get the multiple usages of the word supposed.

i'm so bored at work.

we should have a word usage fight or something.

Pretzel Logic · 12-21-2007, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin' Cherub

pretzel logic is right. as far as i know even the bible implies that jesus was born in summer

Good. The Internet often causes a communication breakdown.

Debaser · 12-21-2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pretzel Logic

It's not even thought to be supposed. It's just a random fucking day they picked. Get it?!?!

Wasn't random at all. The December 25th was a very popular pagan holiday. They specifically chose that day, co-opting it. Pretzel, you dunce.

peabody · 12-21-2007, 03:56 PM

it's me and alex vs. pretzel and cherub.

we're gonna get creamed.

Debaser · 12-21-2007, 03:58 PM

Alex squared

Debaser · 12-21-2007, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pretzel Logic

Good. The Internet often causes a communication breakdown.

It often solves communication breakdowns, too. Pretzel, you dunce.

peabody · 12-21-2007, 03:59 PM

how's life my somewhat asian doppleganger?

Rockin' Cherub · 12-21-2007, 04:00 PM

debaser is of course right. holidays develop like all cultural phenomenons and are basically mashups of all kinds of influences. i thought pretzel logic's point was that no sane and intelligent person would claim that it is the actual day of his birth. nobody pretends that was true. unlike they do with the existence of god etc

Debaser · 12-21-2007, 04:00 PM

My life is pretty damn boring. I need a mid-life crisis or something to change things up.

Pretzel Logic · 12-21-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin' Cherub

i thought pretzel logic's point was that no sane and intelligent person would claim that it is the actual day of his birth. nobody pretends that was true.

That's what I meant. It's not exactly random like I said it was, but the New Testament never mentions a birth date of Jesus. The Church didn't base it off a pagan date, so I don't know why Debaser would bring that up.

peabody · 12-21-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin' Cherub

debaser is of course right. holidays develop like all cultural phenomenons and are basically mashups of all kinds of influences. i thought pretzel logic's point was that no sane and intelligent person would claim that it is the actual day of his birth. nobody pretends that was true. unlike they do with the existence of god etc

i think you'd be surprised how many middle america christians think december 25th is when jesus was born. and how 33 years later he was killed by the evil romans and floated up into cloud city.

jczeroman · 12-21-2007, 04:04 PM

I wouldn't but my wife makes me.

Rockin' Cherub · 12-21-2007, 04:04 PM

romans? you mean jews

Pretzel Logic · 12-21-2007, 04:05 PM

He was killed by the Romans technically.

peabody · 12-21-2007, 04:05 PM

no i mean romans.

jews were comlpicit. but romans were the rulers...

Debaser · 12-21-2007, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pretzel Logic

That's what I meant. It's not exactly random like I said it was, but the New Testament never mentions a birth date of Jesus. The Church didn't base it off a pagan date, so I don't know why Debaser would bring that up.

So its just a coincidence that they picked the same date of popular pagan winter festivals?

peabody · 12-21-2007, 04:06 PM

complicit.

i don't like the edit feature.

i own up to my mistakes!

Pretzel Logic · 12-21-2007, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Debaser

So its just a coincidence that they picked the same date of popular pagan winter festivals?

Yeah, why would the Catholic Church EVER associate the birth of the savior with paganism?

Debaser · 12-21-2007, 04:07 PM

Mel Gibson makes it quite clear that those damn dirty jews pretty much forced those poor romans to kill jesus.

Debaser · 12-21-2007, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pretzel Logic

Yeah, why would the Catholic Church EVER associate the birth of the savior with paganism?

They didn't associate it with paganism. They wanted to replace a pagan holiday with their own.

Pretzel Logic · 12-21-2007, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Debaser

They didn't associate it with paganism. They wanted to replace a pagan holiday with their own.

You're right. I forgot that fact.

peabody · 12-21-2007, 04:10 PM

is everyone burning their yule log to Thor next week?

i know i am

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12-21-2007, 03:08 PM	#31
peabody Minion of Satan Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,459	and if you add presents to the equation!

12-21-2007, 03:12 PM	#33
peabody Minion of Satan Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,459	that's why i said supposed. merely thought to be such. not supported by evidence. assumed as true by many people. did that not make sense?!

12-21-2007, 03:13 PM	#34
ravenguy2000 NO FATS Location: NO FEMS Posts: 29,008	i wish bluestar could come back just for this thread

12-21-2007, 03:38 PM	#36
Rockin' Cherub Braindead Location: the amazing year 400 million Posts: 18,192	i didn't know giving and receiving gifts was this loosely attached to american culture i don't know anybody who doesn't celebrate christmas with all that it entails

12-21-2007, 03:48 PM	#38
Rockin' Cherub Braindead Location: the amazing year 400 million Posts: 18,192	pretzel logic is right. as far as i know even the bible implies that jesus was born in summer

12-21-2007, 03:52 PM	#39
peabody Minion of Satan Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,459	you guys obviously don't get the multiple usages of the word supposed. i'm so bored at work. we should have a word usage fight or something.

12-21-2007, 03:56 PM	#42
peabody Minion of Satan Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,459	it's me and alex vs. pretzel and cherub. we're gonna get creamed.

12-21-2007, 03:58 PM	#43
Debaser ghost Location: @SactoMacto Posts: 12,201	Alex squared

12-21-2007, 03:59 PM	#45
peabody Minion of Satan Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,459	how's life my somewhat asian doppleganger?

12-21-2007, 04:00 PM	#46
Rockin' Cherub Braindead Location: the amazing year 400 million Posts: 18,192	debaser is of course right. holidays develop like all cultural phenomenons and are basically mashups of all kinds of influences. i thought pretzel logic's point was that no sane and intelligent person would claim that it is the actual day of his birth. nobody pretends that was true. unlike they do with the existence of god etc

12-21-2007, 04:04 PM	#50
jczeroman Socialphobic Location: In my house. Posts: 14,465	I wouldn't but my wife makes me.

12-21-2007, 04:05 PM	#52
Pretzel Logic Apocalyptic Poster Location: someone more...punk rock? Posts: 3,562	He was killed by the Romans technically.

12-21-2007, 04:06 PM	#55
peabody Minion of Satan Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,459	complicit. i don't like the edit feature. i own up to my mistakes!

12-21-2007, 04:07 PM	#57
Debaser ghost Location: @SactoMacto Posts: 12,201	Mel Gibson makes it quite clear that those damn dirty jews pretty much forced those poor romans to kill jesus.

12-21-2007, 04:10 PM	#60
peabody Minion of Satan Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,459	is everyone burning their yule log to Thor next week? i know i am