ROGER CLEMENS IN THE MITCHELL REPORT!!! - Page 3

hnibos · 12-13-2007, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

He's not classy at all, he's one of the biggest pussies I've ever seen on a baseball diamond

That's besides the point though, the point is that he a Red Sox

i hope you dont actually support a-rod then.

Nate the Grate · 12-13-2007, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

He's not classy at all, he's one of the biggest pussies I've ever seen on a baseball diamond

That's besides the point though, the point is that he a Red Sox

Ah, the wonderful logic of a Yankees fan.

What's with this "no prominent Red Sox" shit? Mo Vaughn and Roger Clemens not prominent enough for ya? Just because the report doesn't indicate that Clemens used before 1997 doesn't mean he didn't, it just means Mitchell didn't have the evidence. Also, two members of the defending World Champions isn't exactly a good thing.

Yeesh, take off the pinstriped colored glasses.

hnibos · 12-13-2007, 04:41 PM

if anything, this makes theo look kind of bad, trading for a player he already suspected of steroid use.

Nimrod's Son · 12-13-2007, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate the Grate

Mo Vaughn and Roger Clemens not prominent enough for ya? Just because the report doesn't indicate that Clemens used before 1997 doesn't mean he didn't, it just means Mitchell didn't have the evidence. Also, two members of the defending World Champions isn't exactly a good thing.

Mo Vaughn started as an Angel. Roger started as a Blue Jay.

Are you fucking kidding me? And then the puff piece on St. Theo checking on Gagne? I love how there's a Red Sox official conducting the investigation and when no (meaningful) Red Sox come up, these three Sox fans accuse everyone else of being biased.

Who was mentioned, Gagne? The guy they got for 1/2 a season, sucked it up and now is a member of the Brewers? Yeah what a surprise Mitchell didn't defend him or Brendan Donnelly.

jenniferkate · 12-13-2007, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

lol, no meaningful red sox named and theo the dilligent anti-steroid hero is praised!

i don't like the conflict of interest either but all the no meaningful sox being named could mean is that there was no larry bigbie equivalent around the organization to rat on anyone. and i don't think theo comes off particularly well -- he inquires about the steroid histories of gagne and donnelly, is told that they probably juice, and trades for them anyway.

Nimrod's Son · 12-13-2007, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sppunk

It's a tough day for a Yankee fan, huh.

Giambi wasn't a secret and Pettitte was said to have used hGH to rehab from an injury once in 2001.

sppunk · 12-13-2007, 04:56 PM

Since when is an adviser to a team who isn't full time an official?

Your logic is so flawed in that last post I can't even wrap my head around it ... you believe Mitchell sat on this report to match Gagne leaving the Sox. lol

This all couldn't have happened to a better motherfucker in Roger Clemens, though.

Nimrod's Son · 12-13-2007, 04:58 PM

Also can we all just admit that a report about PEDs in MLB doesn't even mention Barry Bonds? Whose testimony already leaked? Who is currently under indictment?

I am willing to fully believe that if Mitchell can't even get any evidence on Bonds then he could have easily turned the other way on, say, Curt Schilling and Manny Ramirez.

Nimrod's Son · 12-13-2007, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jenniferkate

i don't like the conflict of interest either but all the no meaningful sox being named could mean is that there was no larry bigbie equivalent around the organization to rat on anyone.

Or he didn't look for one.

sppunk · 12-13-2007, 05:00 PM

Uh, it has pages dedicated to Bonds, dude.

Nimrod's Son · 12-13-2007, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sppunk

Since when is an adviser to a team who isn't full time an official?

http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/team/fr...e.jsp?c_id=bos

	Front Office Directory
http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/images/trans.gif	Officers
http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/images/trans.gif	John W. Henry	Principal Owner
http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/images/trans.gif	Thomas C. Werner	Chairman
http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/images/trans.gif	David Ginsberg	Vice Chairman
http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/images/trans.gif	Phillip H. Morse	Vice Chairman
http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/images/trans.gif	Larry Lucchino	President/Chief Executive Officer
http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/images/trans.gif	George J. Mitchell	Director

So they mention a part-time advisor #6 right behind Larry Lucchino

Nimrod's Son · 12-13-2007, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sppunk

Uh, it has pages dedicated to Bonds, dude.

Oh it mentions the name Bonds, but really.. there's not much there. Have you read the actual report?

sppunk · 12-13-2007, 05:01 PM

The Red Sox refer to advisers to their board as directors; he has no stake in ownership, voting rights in organizational matters or any direct association with the office of the general manager.

sppunk · 12-13-2007, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

Oh it mentions the name Bonds, but really.. there's not much there. Have you read the actual report?

Pretty much, yeah. We can thank the ice storm today for my boredom in doing so.

hnibos · 12-13-2007, 05:05 PM

again, if anything, this makes theo look bad. how the hell you see this as praising theo baffles me.

Nimrod's Son · 12-13-2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hnibos

again, if anything, this makes theo look bad. how the hell you see this as praising theo baffles me.

Theo checked. Theo asked. Theo investigated. Theo CARED, damnit!

sppunk · 12-13-2007, 05:07 PM

Yeah, Epstein looks very bad in this report. Very, very bad.

sppunk · 12-13-2007, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

Theo checked. Theo asked. Theo investigated. Theo CARED, damnit!

... then he ignored what everyone said and traded for the fuckup. You must be employed by ESPN - you're both spinning badly.

jenniferkate · 12-13-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

Or he didn't look for one.

it is interesting that no one interviewed paxton crawford.

Nate the Grate · 12-13-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jenniferkate

it is interesting that no one interviewed paxton crawford.

What?

hnibos · 12-13-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sppunk

Yeah, Epstein looks very bad in this report. Very, very bad.

idk if youre being sarcastic or not, im sure he was doing what every other gm was doing the past few years.

jenniferkate · 12-13-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate the Grate

What?

http://www.boston.com/sports/basebal...d_comes_1.html

also i just saw he declined their interview request. my bad.

Esty · 12-13-2007, 06:05 PM

How the hell is it possible that baseball threads always become Yankees vs. Boston. I mean, come on guys.

I'm actually kinda pissed that few players were named. I was expecting a ton of white sox players. Specifcally, Konerko, Dye, Rowand.

Anyones favorite players get outed? Just curious. I mean actual favorites, not just some loser who plays/played on your club.

I wasn't a giant fan of Clemens, but I did respect him at times. That shit with Piazza being the only thing I hated him for. I don't think he deserves hall of fame induction based on when he started, and how it has helped him since, but he'll be in. Eventually, they will let him in.

Sepiae · 12-13-2007, 06:18 PM

I've always hated Clemens (even when he was with Boston) but it's hard for me to enjoy something like this. I'd rather hate him because he's a prick, not because he used steroids.

I was pretty sad to see Brian Roberts named. He is one of my close friends' favorite players and seemed pretty much on the straight and narrow. I wonder if his nutjob dad pressured him into it.

Eulogy · 12-13-2007, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sepiae

I've always hated Clemens (even when he was with Boston) but it's hard for me to enjoy something like this. I'd rather hate him because he's a prick, not because he used steroids.

I was pretty sad to see Brian Roberts named. He is one of my close friends' favorite players and seemed pretty much on the straight and narrow. I wonder if his nutjob dad pressured him into it.

i briefly watched ESPN today and one bit I saw made the Roberts info seem incredibly flimsy. so i'd wait a little while before getting upset about him. and can't Clemens beign a prick go hand in hand with him asking a dude to stick needles in his butt?

Debaser · 12-13-2007, 06:33 PM

Seeing F.P. Santangelo's name (and check) on the report piqued my interest. He's part of a 3-man sports talk morning radio show here in sacramento everyday. I've caught him on the radio countless times during my morning commute. I didn't catch the show this morning and apparently he took the day off today anyways. I wonder if he's going to be on tomorrow to face the public.

Revenant · 12-13-2007, 06:35 PM

Now that the Rocket is out of the running there can be no question that Greg Maddux is the best pitcher of his generation.

hnibos · 12-13-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Esty

How the hell is it possible that baseball threads always become Yankees vs. Boston. I mean, come on guys.

I'm actually kinda pissed that few players were named. I was expecting a ton of white sox players. Specifcally, Konerko, Dye, Rowand.

Anyones favorite players get outed? Just curious. I mean actual favorites, not just some loser who plays/played on your club.

I wasn't a giant fan of Clemens, but I did respect him at times. That shit with Piazza being the only thing I hated him for. I don't think he deserves hall of fame induction based on when he started, and how it has helped him since, but he'll be in. Eventually, they will let him in.

its funny you say that, last night me and my bro were like, defintely konerko, dye and rowand, specifically, the latter two, they had incredible seasons out of nowhere.

hnibos · 12-13-2007, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Revenant

Now that the Rocket is out of the running there can be no question that Greg Maddux is the best pitcher of his generation.

probably, but at their best, pedro martinez has no equal.

Trotskilicious · 12-13-2007, 06:54 PM

i can't believe this thread has red sox/yankees rivalry shit in it

actually i can since every fucking baseball thread on this board has nimrod trolling sox fans but fuck can't you stinking yanks see how tiresome you are

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12-13-2007, 04:41 PM	#63
hnibos Braindead Location: I was just reading, right? Posts: 15,020	if anything, this makes theo look kind of bad, trading for a player he already suspected of steroid use.

12-13-2007, 04:56 PM	#67
sppunk Netphoria's George Will Location: Fenway Park Posts: 37,125	Since when is an adviser to a team who isn't full time an official? Your logic is so flawed in that last post I can't even wrap my head around it ... you believe Mitchell sat on this report to match Gagne leaving the Sox. lol This all couldn't have happened to a better motherfucker in Roger Clemens, though.

12-13-2007, 04:58 PM	#68
Nimrod's Son Master of Karate and Friendship Location: in your butt Posts: 72,943	Also can we all just admit that a report about PEDs in MLB doesn't even mention Barry Bonds? Whose testimony already leaked? Who is currently under indictment? I am willing to fully believe that if Mitchell can't even get any evidence on Bonds then he could have easily turned the other way on, say, Curt Schilling and Manny Ramirez.

12-13-2007, 05:00 PM	#70
sppunk Netphoria's George Will Location: Fenway Park Posts: 37,125	Uh, it has pages dedicated to Bonds, dude.

12-13-2007, 05:01 PM	#73
sppunk Netphoria's George Will Location: Fenway Park Posts: 37,125	The Red Sox refer to advisers to their board as directors; he has no stake in ownership, voting rights in organizational matters or any direct association with the office of the general manager.

12-13-2007, 05:05 PM	#75
hnibos Braindead Location: I was just reading, right? Posts: 15,020	again, if anything, this makes theo look bad. how the hell you see this as praising theo baffles me.

12-13-2007, 05:07 PM	#77
sppunk Netphoria's George Will Location: Fenway Park Posts: 37,125	Yeah, Epstein looks very bad in this report. Very, very bad.

12-13-2007, 06:05 PM	#83
Esty Netphorian of the Decade Location: Waiting in line for his geranium kiss Posts: 15,478	How the hell is it possible that baseball threads always become Yankees vs. Boston. I mean, come on guys. I'm actually kinda pissed that few players were named. I was expecting a ton of white sox players. Specifcally, Konerko, Dye, Rowand. Anyones favorite players get outed? Just curious. I mean actual favorites, not just some loser who plays/played on your club. I wasn't a giant fan of Clemens, but I did respect him at times. That shit with Piazza being the only thing I hated him for. I don't think he deserves hall of fame induction based on when he started, and how it has helped him since, but he'll be in. Eventually, they will let him in.

12-13-2007, 06:18 PM	#84
Sepiae is a modern day sex camel Location: Boston, baby Posts: 7,662	I've always hated Clemens (even when he was with Boston) but it's hard for me to enjoy something like this. I'd rather hate him because he's a prick, not because he used steroids. I was pretty sad to see Brian Roberts named. He is one of my close friends' favorite players and seemed pretty much on the straight and narrow. I wonder if his nutjob dad pressured him into it.

12-13-2007, 06:33 PM	#86
Debaser ghost Location: @SactoMacto Posts: 12,201	Seeing F.P. Santangelo's name (and check) on the report piqued my interest. He's part of a 3-man sports talk morning radio show here in sacramento everyday. I've caught him on the radio countless times during my morning commute. I didn't catch the show this morning and apparently he took the day off today anyways. I wonder if he's going to be on tomorrow to face the public.

12-13-2007, 06:35 PM	#87
Revenant Pledge Location: St.Paul Mn Posts: 157	Now that the Rocket is out of the running there can be no question that Greg Maddux is the best pitcher of his generation.

12-13-2007, 06:54 PM	#90
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	i can't believe this thread has red sox/yankees rivalry shit in it actually i can since every fucking baseball thread on this board has nimrod trolling sox fans but fuck can't you stinking yanks see how tiresome you are