ROGER CLEMENS IN THE MITCHELL REPORT!!!

[sppunk]

It's all a hoax that doesn't matter - this is not a conspiracy and George Mitchell won't (and I pray this is the truth) hide Red Sox players.

[sppunk]

The official list from earlier (http://thesteroidera.blogspot.com/20...-baseball.html)

Admitted Users
Ken Caminiti
Barry Bonds
Bobby Estalella
Jason Giambi
Jeremy Giambi
Armando Rios
Benito Santiago
Gary Sheffield
Jose Canseco
Tom House
Wally Joyner
Jim Leyritz
Paxton Crawford
Jason Grimsley
David Segui
John Rocker
Paul Byrd
Total: 17

Implicated Players
Mark McGwire
Manny Alexander
Chuck Finley
Marvin Bernard
Randy Velarde
Wilson Alvarez
Bret Boone
Ozzie Canseco
Juan Gonzalez
Dave Martinez
Ivan Rodriguez
Tony Saunders
Miguel Tejada
Lenny Dykstra
Dave Hollins
Roger Clemens
Andy Pettitte
Brian Roberts
Jay Gibbons
Gary Matthews Jr.
Jerry Hairston Jr.
David Bell
Darren Holmes
Rick Ankiel
Troy Glaus
Scott Schoeneweis
Matt Williams
Jose Guillen
Ismael Valdez
Total: 29

MLB Positive Tests
Alex Sanchez
Jorge Piedra
Agustin Montero
Jamal Strong
Juan Rincon
Rafael Betancourt
Rafael Palmeiro
Ryan Franklin
Mike Morse
Carlos Almanzar
Felix Heredia
Matt Lawton
Yusaku Iriki
Guillermo Mota
Juan Salas
Dan Serafini
Total: 16

Non-MLB Positive Tests
Terrmel Sledge
Derek Turnbow
Total: 2

Details at the above link.

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by sppunk

It's all a hoax that doesn't matter - this is not a conspiracy and George Mitchell won't (and I pray this is the truth) hide Red Sox players.

I find it very possible he didn't follow up leads in regards to players on the team that pays his salary.

[sppunk]

Glad Pujols isn't on the list.

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by sppunk

The official list from earlier (http://thesteroidera.blogspot.com/20...-baseball.html)

Admitted Users
Ken Caminiti
Barry Bonds
Bobby Estalella
Jason Giambi
Jeremy Giambi
Armando Rios
Benito Santiago
Gary Sheffield
Jose Canseco
Tom House
Wally Joyner
Jim Leyritz
Paxton Crawford
Jason Grimsley
David Segui
John Rocker
Paul Byrd
Total: 17

Implicated Players
Mark McGwire
Manny Alexander
Chuck Finley
Marvin Bernard
Randy Velarde
Wilson Alvarez
Bret Boone
Ozzie Canseco
Juan Gonzalez
Dave Martinez
Ivan Rodriguez
Tony Saunders
Miguel Tejada
Lenny Dykstra
Dave Hollins
Roger Clemens
Andy Pettitte
Brian Roberts
Jay Gibbons
Gary Matthews Jr.
Jerry Hairston Jr.
David Bell
Darren Holmes
Rick Ankiel
Troy Glaus
Scott Schoeneweis
Matt Williams
Jose Guillen
Ismael Valdez
Total: 29

MLB Positive Tests
Alex Sanchez
Jorge Piedra
Agustin Montero
Jamal Strong
Juan Rincon
Rafael Betancourt
Rafael Palmeiro
Ryan Franklin
Mike Morse
Carlos Almanzar
Felix Heredia
Matt Lawton
Yusaku Iriki
Guillermo Mota
Juan Salas
Dan Serafini
Total: 16

Non-MLB Positive Tests
Terrmel Sledge
Derek Turnbow
Total: 2

Details at the above link.

Seriously.. are you fucking high? Read what you just linked to... it's on BLOGSPOT and was posted in August of 2006...

[sppunk]

... you might want to read the complete post. I'm trying to find all the "leaked" names in the past to compare what expectations actually led to.

[monkeyfritters]

i hope this ends baseball forever. fuck old men, rednecks, little boys, italians, fathers, grandfathers, those bitches from a league of their own, kevin kostner, james earl jones... all of them can go to hell.

if you dope him they will cum

[sppunk]

Here's the report: http://files.mlb.com/mitchrpt.pdf

[sppunk]

aww Jack Cust!

[sppunk]

Wow that report is nuts. Clemens' info is interesting to read, as is the fact Theo questioned Gagne last offseason about steroid usage.

When the Boston Red Sox were considering acquiring Gagné, a Red Sox official
made specific inquiries about Gagné’s possible use of steroids. In a November 1, 2006 email to
a Red Sox scout, general manager Theo Epstein asked, “Have you done any digging on Gagne?
I know the Dodgers think he was a steroid guy. Maybe so. What do you hear on his
medical?”425 The scout, Mark Delpiano, responded,

Some digging on Gagne and steroids IS the issue. Has had a
checkered medical past throughout career including minor leagues.
Lacks the poise and commitment to stay healthy, maintain body
and re invent self. What made him a tenacious closer was the max
effort plus stuff . . . Mentality without the plus weapons and
without steroid help probably creates a large risk in bounce back
durability and ability to throw average while allowing the changeup
to play as it once did . . . Personally, durability (or lack of) will
follow Gagne . . .426

In order to provide Gagné with information about these allegations and to give
him an opportunity to respond, I asked him to meet with me; he declined.

[jenniferkate]

NOT RON VILLONE!

[sppunk]

Here's the Clemens info:

Roger Clemens is a pitcher who, from 1984 to 2007, played for four teams in
Major League Baseball, the Boston Red Sox (13 seasons), Toronto Blue Jays (2 seasons),
New York Yankees (6 seasons), and Houston Astros (3 seasons). He has won more than
350 games, seven Cy Young Awards, and was the American League Most Valuable Player in
1986. He was named to All-Star teams eleven times.

During the Radomski investigation, federal law enforcement officials identified
Brian McNamee as one of Radomski’s customers and a possible sub-distributor. McNamee,
through his attorney, entered into a written agreement with the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the
Northern District of California. The agreement provides that McNamee will cooperate with the
U.S. Attorney’s Office. No truthful statements can be used against McNamee in any federal
prosecution by that Office; if, however, he should be untruthful in any statements made pursuant
to that agreement, he may be charged with criminal violations, including making false
statements, which is a felony.

As part of his cooperation with the U.S. Attorney’s Office, and at its request,
McNamee agreed to three interviews by me and my staff, one in person and two by telephone.
McNamee’s personal lawyer participated in the interviews. Also participating were federal
prosecutors and agents from the F.B.I. and the Internal Revenue Service. On each occasion,
McNamee was advised that he could face criminal charges if he made any false statements
during these interviews, which were deemed by the prosecutors to be subject to his written
agreement with the U.S. Attorney’s Office.

McNamee attended St. John’s University in New York from 1985 to 1989,
majoring in athletic administration. At St. John’s, he played baseball. From 1990 to May 1993,
he was a New York City police officer.

In 1993, McNamee met Tim McCleary, the assistant general manager of the
New York Yankees, who also had attended St. John’s. McCleary hired McNamee as a bullpen
catcher and batting practice pitcher for the New York Yankees. In 1995, McNamee was released
from his duties after Joe Torre was named the new Yankees manager. From 1995 to 1998,
McNamee trained “Olympic caliber athletes” outside of baseball.
In 1995, McCleary was hired as the assistant general manager for the Toronto
Blue Jays. In 1998, that club hired McNamee as its strength and conditioning coach, and he
served in that position from 1998 to 2000.

Roger Clemens signed with Toronto in 1997, after spending the first thirteen
years of his career with the Red Sox. After McNamee began working for the Blue Jays in 1998,
he and Clemens both lived at the Toronto SkyDome (there is a hotel attached to the stadium).
McNamee and Clemens became close professionally while in Toronto, but they were not close
socially or personally.

Jose Canseco was playing for the Blue Jays in 1998. On or about June 8-10,
1998, the Toronto Blue Jays played an away series with the Florida Marlins. McNamee attended
a lunch party that Canseco hosted at his home in Miami. McNamee stated that, during this
luncheon, he observed Clemens, Canseco, and another person he did not know meeting inside
Canseco’s house, although McNamee did not personally attend that meeting. Canseco told
members of my investigative staff that he had numerous conversations with Clemens about the
benefits of Deca-Durabolin and Winstrol and how to “cycle” and “stack” steroids. Canseco has
made similar statements publicly.

Toward the end of the road trip which included the Marlins series, or shortly after
the Blue Jays returned home to Toronto, Clemens approached McNamee and, for the first time,
brought up the subject of using steroids. Clemens said that he was not able to inject himself, and
he asked for McNamee’s help.

Later that summer, Clemens asked McNamee to inject him with Winstrol, which
Clemens supplied. McNamee knew the substance was Winstrol because the vials Clemens gave
him were so labeled. McNamee injected Clemens approximately four times in the buttocks over
a several-week period with needles that Clemens provided. Each incident took place in
Clemens’s apartment at the SkyDome. McNamee never asked Clemens where he obtained the
steroids.

During the 1998 season (around the time of the injections), Clemens showed
McNamee a white bottle of Anadrol-50.386 Clemens told McNamee he was not using it but
wanted to know more about it. McNamee told Clemens not to use it. McNamee said he took the
bottle and gave it to Canseco.387 McNamee does not know where Clemens obtained the
Anadrol-50.

According to McNamee, from the time that McNamee injected Clemens with
Winstrol through the end of the 1998 season, Clemens’s performance showed remarkable
improvement. During this period of improved performance, Clemens told McNamee that the
steroids “had a pretty good effect” on him. McNamee said that Clemens also was training harder
and dieting better during this time.

In 1999, Clemens was traded to the New York Yankees. McNamee remained
under contract with the Blue Jays for the 1999 season. In 2000, the Yankees hired McNamee as
the assistant strength and conditioning coach under Jeff Mangold. According to McNamee, the
Yankees hired him because Clemens persuaded them to do so. In this capacity, McNamee
worked with all of the Yankees players. McNamee was paid both by the Yankees and by
Clemens personally. Clemens hired McNamee to train him during portions of several weeks in
the off-season. McNamee also trained Clemens personally for one to two weeks during spring
training and a few times during the season. McNamee served as the Yankees’ assistant strength
and conditioning coach through the 2001 season.

McNamee first learned about Kirk Radomski through David Segui during the
2000 season. Also that season, McNamee obtained Radomski’s telephone number from Jason
Grimsley. McNamee wanted to buy a Lexus, and Radomski had a connection with a Lexus
dealer. Radomski recalled that Grimsley was a frequent customer for performance enhancing
substances, and he produced nine checks written by Grimsley to Radomski during 2001 and
2002 and fourteen checks in total.

According to McNamee, during the middle of the 2000 season Clemens made it
clear that he was ready to use steroids again. During the latter part of the regular season,
McNamee injected Clemens in the buttocks four to six times with testosterone from a bottle
labeled either Sustanon 250 or Deca-Durabolin that McNamee had obtained from Radomski.
McNamee stated that during this same time period he also injected Clemens four
to six times with human growth hormone he received from Radomski, after explaining to
Clemens the potential benefits and risks of use. McNamee believed that it was probably his idea
that Clemens try human growth hormone. Radomski instructed McNamee how to inject human
growth hormone. On each occasion, McNamee administered the injections at Clemens’s
apartment in New York City.

McNamee said that he and Clemens did not have any conversations regarding
performance enhancing substances from late 2000 until August 2001. McNamee did, however,
train Clemens and Andy Pettitte during the off-season at their homes in Houston. Clemens often
invited other major league players who lived in the Houston area to train with him.
According to McNamee, Clemens advised him in August 2001 that he was again
ready to use steroids. Shortly thereafter, McNamee injected Clemens with Sustanon or Deca-
Durabolin on four to five occasions at Clemens’s apartment. According to McNamee, he again
obtained these drugs from Kirk Radomski. McNamee concluded from Clemens’s statements and
conduct that Clemens did not like using human growth hormone (Clemens told him that he did
not like the “bellybutton shot”). To McNamee’s knowledge, Clemens did not use human growth
hormone in 2001.

McNamee was not retained by the Yankees after the 2001 season. After that
season, Clemens never again asked McNamee to inject him with performance enhancing
substances, and McNamee had no further discussions with Clemens about such substances.
McNamee stated that Clemens did not tell him why he stopped asking him to administer
performance enhancing substances, and McNamee has no knowledge about whether Clemens
used performance enhancing substances after 2001.

During the years that McNamee stated he facilitated Clemens’s use of steroids
and human growth hormone, McNamee’s discussions with Clemens about use of these drugs
were limited. McNamee assumed that Clemens used performance enhancing substances during
the second half of the season so that he would not tire, but they did not discuss this directly. It
was Clemens who made the decision when he would use anabolic steroids or human growth
hormone. McNamee stated that he tried to educate Clemens about these substances; he “gave
him as much information as possible.”

Clemens continued to train with McNamee after he was dismissed by the
Yankees, according to both McNamee and press reports. In October 2006, after the Los Angeles
Times reported that the names of Clemens and McNamee were among those that had been
redacted from an affidavit in support of a search warrant for the residence of Jason Grimsley as
allegedly involved with the illegal use of performance enhancing substances, Clemens was
reported to have said: “I’ll continue to use Mac [McNamee]to train me. He’s one of a kind.”390
McNamee was quoted in a December 10, 2006 news article on steroids as
reportedly having said: “I never, ever gave Clemens or Pettitte steroids. They never asked me
for steroids. The only thing they asked me for were vitamins.”391 McNamee told us that he was
accurately quoted but that he did not tell the truth to the reporter who interviewed him. He
explained that he was trying to protect his reputation.

On May 15, 2007, the New York Daily News reported that Clemens had cut ties
to McNamee.392 McNamee denied that and told us that he trained Clemens after the article was
published. He added that Clemens now has a home in the New York area, and McNamee
personally installed a gym there.

McNamee stated that he has no ill will toward Clemens and “was always ahead
[financially] with Roger.” McNamee received money for expenses from Clemens’s business
representatives. They paid McNamee for training Clemens, and for his expenses. From time to
time Clemens also gave McNamee “extra money.” Clemens never gave money to McNamee
specifically to buy performance enhancing substances.

Kirk Radomski recalled meeting McNamee through David Segui. Radomski
confirmed that he supplied McNamee with human growth hormone and anabolic steroids from
2000 to 2004. Although McNamee never told Radomski the performance enhancing substances
obtained were for anything other than McNamee’s personal use, Radomski concluded that
McNamee was distributing the substances to others based on the amounts he purchased and the
timing of the purchases.

Radomski knew McNamee was acting as personal trainer for Roger Clemens,
Andy Pettitte, and Chuck Knoblauch (among others), and he suspected McNamee was giving the
performance enhancing substances to some of his clients. Occasionally, McNamee
acknowledged good performances by Knoblauch or Clemens by “dropping hints,” such as
“[h]e’s on the program now.” McNamee never explicitly told Radomski that either Clemens or
Pettitte was using steroids or human growth hormone. According to Radomski, however,
McNamee asked Radomski what types of substances Radomski was providing to pitchers.

Radomski delivered the substances to McNamee personally. Radomski recalled
numerous performance enhancing substance transactions with McNamee. Radomski also
sometimes trained some of McNamee’s non-professional athlete clients.
Radomski produced four checks from McNamee that were deposited into
Radomski’s checking account and drawn on McNamee’s checking account.393 All the checks
were dated in 2003 and 2004, after McNamee said that he supplied Clemens, Pettitte, and
Knoblauch. McNamee said these purchases were for non-baseball clients.
McNamee’s name, with an address and telephone number, is listed in the address
book seized from Radomski’s residence by federal agents. Radomski’s telephone records show
twelve calls to McNamee’s telephone number from May through August 2004. Radomski was
unable to obtain telephone records dating back to the time when, according to McNamee,
McNamee was injecting Clemens.

Clemens appears to be one of the two people associated with baseball – Andy
Pettitte is the other – who have remained loyal to McNamee after he left the Yankees.394
Clemens has remained a source of income for McNamee up to and including 2007.
Prior to my interviews of McNamee he was interviewed by federal officials on
several occasions, during each of which they informed McNamee that he risked criminal
prosecution if he was not truthful. I was advised by those officials that on each occasion he told
them about the performance enhancing substance use of Clemens, Andy Pettitte, and Chuck
Knoblauch (Pettitte and Knoblauch are discussed below).

In order to provide Clemens with information about these allegations and to give
him an opportunity to respond, I asked him to meet with me; he declined.

[sppunk]

The cancelled checks in this are nice. Mo Vaugh, Tejada, etc.

Mitchell appears to have done a thorough job with this report.

[sppunk]

Mitchell: Some players warned ahead of time about drug tests.

Selig's crying somewhere to himself.

[Esty]

So, does this mess up Clemens hall chances?

I think not, but he will not be first ballot.

[Sepiae]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

I find it very possible he didn't follow up leads in regards to players on the team that pays his salary.

Yeah, probably. I'm frankly surprised not to see Nixon or Embree.

[Nate the Grate]

Very impressive report. From just a quick scan, the names named are all backed up by pretty strong evidence, rather than hearsay.

That people are questioning Mitchell's bias in this investigation is pretty laughable. In fact, he addresses the issue in the report.

It's also pretty laughable that sppunk posted that quite-obviously bullshit "leak".

[hnibos]

i guess dan duquette was right when he said that clemens was in the twilight of his career.

[Nate the Grate]

He was misquoted when he said that, ya know.

[jenniferkate]

this is awesome: Radomski said that he did not sell Vaughn steroids because Vaughn was “afraid of the big needles.”

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by sppunk

Wow that report is nuts. Clemens' info is interesting to read, as is the fact Theo questioned Gagne last offseason about steroid usage.

lol, no meaningful red sox named and theo the dilligent anti-steroid hero is praised!

also the clemens stuff is great "Roger Clemens began taking steroids in spring of 1997, his first season outside of a Red Sox uniform."

Nobody finds this suspect. Nobody.

[hnibos]

Originally Posted by Nate the Grate

He was misquoted when he said that, ya know.

how so?

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by Nate the Grate

Very impressive report. From just a quick scan, the names named are all backed up by pretty strong evidence, rather than hearsay.

That people are questioning Mitchell's bias in this investigation is pretty laughable. In fact, he addresses the issue in the report.

It's also pretty laughable that sppunk posted that quite-obviously bullshit "leak".

I knew it was fake once it had Varitek's name on it

[sppunk]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

lol, no meaningful red sox named and theo the dilligent anti-steroid hero is praised!

also the clemens stuff is great "Roger Clemens began taking steroids in spring of 1997, his first season outside of a Red Sox uniform."

It's a tough day for a Yankee fan, huh.

[hnibos]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

lol, no meaningful red sox named and theo the dilligent anti-steroid hero is praised!

also the clemens stuff is great "Roger Clemens began taking steroids in spring of 1997, his first season outside of a Red Sox uniform."

yea this report had much more to do with protecting the red sox reputation than actually trying to clean the sport

[hnibos]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

I knew it was fake once it had Varitek's name on it

yea, even you know what a classy player he is.

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by hnibos

yea this report had much more to do with protecting the red sox reputation than actually trying to clean the sport

You think I'm the only one saying this, and the only one who's been saying all along that there's no way Mitchell releases that list with any Red Sox on it?

I guess Boston is just the one clean team and that's just a big coincidence, huh?

[Nimrod's Son]

Originally Posted by hnibos

yea, even you know what a classy player he is.

He's not classy at all, he's one of the biggest pussies I've ever seen on a baseball diamond

That's besides the point though, the point is that he a Red Sox

[hnibos]

Originally Posted by Nimrod's Son

You think I'm the only one saying this, and the only one who's been saying all along that there's no way Mitchell releases that list with any Red Sox on it?

I guess Boston is just the one clean team and that's just a big coincidence, huh?

wasnt the first thing mitchell said during the press conference that all 30 clubs have had players who used steroids?

only yankee fans are probably saying this.

[sppunk]

Nevermind the fact there are two members of the 2007 World Championship team on this list and all ...

It's daming to Clemens and, to a lesser degree, Pettitte. No one else gets hammered too badly. Clemens is in worse spots now than Bonds. Interesting no mention of Sosa.