so how about that NIE

Debaser · 12-04-2007, 03:58 PM

its just dominating all the news.

DeviousJ · 12-04-2007, 05:23 PM

And Bush is trying to play it down so he can push for action. Unprecedented!

Skradgee · 12-04-2007, 05:33 PM

"this doesn't change anything" blah blah blah blah blah

redbull · 12-04-2007, 05:37 PM

what exactly are we talking about

Debaser · 12-04-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DeviousJ

And Bush is trying to play it down so he can push for action. Unprecedented!

He both plays up the new report as proof of how improved the intelligence operation is because of the restructuring changes they've instituted and then play down what the report concludes. Amazing.

DeviousJ · 12-04-2007, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by redbull

what exactly are we talking about

The US intelligence report that says they don't believe Iran is intending to develop nuclear weapons, and that they ended their program years ago. Sound eerily familiar?

Debaser · 12-04-2007, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by redbull

what exactly are we talking about

New NIE (national intelligence report, the consensus of all 16 american spy agencies) just made public: "Iran halted their nuclear weapons work in 2003. "

Bush and other iran fear mongers: "so. the. fuck. what."

Right wing blogs, blind to irony: "you can't trust what the CIA says, they thought that Iraq had wmds and they were wrong!"

TicalFSU · 12-06-2007, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Debaser

Right wing blogs, blind to irony: "you can't trust what the CIA says, they thought that Iraq had wmds and they were wrong!"

That is the funny

part of it all.

Well, I believe it took the wind out of the American Neoconservative's sails. Remember though, that if Israel attacks Iran, we have pledged to support them. We aren't out of the woods yet; however, it is now highly unlikely an attack could be justified by anyone that isn't batshit crazy.

redbull · 12-06-2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TicalFSU

That is the funny

part of it all.

Well, I believe it took the wind out of the American Neoconservative's sails. Remember though, that if Israel attacks Iran, we have pledged to support them. We aren't out of the woods yet; however, it is now highly unlikely an attack could be justified by anyone that isn't batshit crazy.

i seem to recall israel being batshit crazy on occasion
could just be me though

TicalFSU · 12-06-2007, 06:08 PM

I wouldnt go as far as to say "israel" but yes, certain elements within it (ie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yigal_Amir)

Corganist · 12-06-2007, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Debaser

Right wing blogs, blind to irony: "you can't trust what the CIA says, they thought that Iraq had wmds and they were wrong!"

What's ironic about it? They're just heeding the wise words of George W. Bush.

"Fool me once, shame on....shame on you. Fool me, can't get fooled again."

Mayfuck · 12-06-2007, 08:07 PM

Yeah I'm not sure if it's too much a political victory for anyone. Basically, intelligence community has been saying:

Iraq is hiding WMDs!

Whoops they're not!

Sadam Hussein has ties to Al Qaeda!

Oh wait he doesn't!

Iran is developing nuclear weapons!

Iran is NOT developing nuclear weapons!

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12-04-2007, 05:23 PM	#2
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TicalFSU When I travel to the Sun Posts: 458	I wouldnt go as far as to say "israel" but yes, certain elements within it (ie http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yigal_Amir)

12-06-2007, 08:07 PM	#12
Mayfuck Banned Location: i'm from japan also hollywood Posts: 57,812	Yeah I'm not sure if it's too much a political victory for anyone. Basically, intelligence community has been saying: Iraq is hiding WMDs! Whoops they're not! Sadam Hussein has ties to Al Qaeda! Oh wait he doesn't! Iran is developing nuclear weapons! Iran is NOT developing nuclear weapons!