Week 8: Netphoria NCAA Top 25 football predictions - Page 7

Trotskilicious · 10-19-2007, 03:11 PM

Texas is enormous and it has a 50k enrollment.

what planet are you on where FORTY THOUSAND people is a "small" college? i mean notre dame is under 12k man. jesus christ.

Eulogy · 10-19-2007, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

Texas is enormous and it has a 50k enrollment.

what planet are you on where FORTY THOUSAND people is a "small" college? i mean notre dame is under 12k man. jesus christ.

um, did i word that weird?

i thought it was small. and then last night i learned it had 40,000. wtf man? i was disappointed to learn that it was big.

Trotskilicious · 10-19-2007, 03:17 PM

ooooh ok i didn't think you were that dumb

i think it's the third largest school in florida. seems like it's just like my alma mater, just accept anyone and even if they flunk out after a year or two you still get the money to build your football team or in UTSA's case line their pockets and build fancy buidlings for the administration and graduate programs.

jczeroman · 10-19-2007, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy

well putting this whole debate aside, i'm wondering why you and trots think the SEC isn't as good.

last year you had Florida and LSU....and....no one else that was all that great, really. right? SC and Kentucky are so much better. Florida and LSU are still great. Auburn is better, I believe.

i mean i'll listen to why you think it's worse, but i don't see it.

Auburn was definitely better last year and SC might have been as well.

Florida is worse as well.

But, really it's not a matter of thinking the SEC isn't "as good" but that there is a lot more parity in general, and also the Pac-10 has really risen up. It's just part of the cyclical nature in CFB.

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...and what on-field results place the pac10 ahead of the SEC?

If I were to break it down (again, this is totally subjective), I would do it like this:

Offensively the Pac-10 has had a lot of good offenses this year - I mean, just dominating. Sometimes this can be chalked up to poor defenses, but their defenses have looked at least average if not a bit better - and the offenses are still just potent. The SEC has also had a good year offensively, but no where near what the pac-10 has. They can move the ball, but the athleticism shown in big-plays and those "wow-type" moments are really lacking. They definitely churn it out, but it's not the poetry and perfection in skill that has been shown out west.

On defense, I've already mentioned the pac-10's improvement - games aren't 47 to 34 anymore. The SEC has had phenomenal defense in the past, but this year they have looked... average. Still very good, but much slower and less athletic than year's past. A good showpiece game for the Pac-10 on this offense/defense argument was Cal/Oregon - if you didn't watch it, then find a torrent. You look at the firepower and lack of mistakes on both sides of the ball, low penalties (which is a miracle with he tightwad refs in the pac-10) and just pure effort and skill all around.

I think the SEC has far better coaching this year, however, far better. In fact, with (and I will say this even though it might be sacrilege) the inferior individual athletes that the SEC has this year, the coaches have done a tremendous job. There are still a few dumb mistakes going on, and some bungled execution, but SEC coaches are head and shoulders above the rest of CFB.

Corganist · 10-19-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jczeroman

I think the SEC has far better coaching this year, however, far better. In fact, with (and I will say this even though it might be sacrilege) the inferior individual athletes that the SEC has this year, the coaches have done a tremendous job. There are still a few dumb mistakes going on, and some bungled execution, but SEC coaches are head and shoulders above the rest of CFB.

Maybe if you don't include Houston Nutt. I can't think of too many people in the nation doing a worse job than he is.

Trotskilicious · 10-19-2007, 03:34 PM

hey jczeroman, are there torrents of games that are just snap to snap without all the bs inbetween? i love the NFL network's rebroadcasting of games minute to minute without any of the play clock standing around shit.

Trotskilicious · 10-19-2007, 03:47 PM

by the way guys i just heard that mizzou has the 100th ranked passing defense.

Trotskilicious · 10-20-2007, 11:21 AM

not that it matters since i'm the only one who picked that game but Ohio State is totally gonna beat Michigan State but I'm pretty sure that MSU will give them a fight.

jczeroman · 11:34 AM

he's an example of that defense improvement I was talking about:

sppunk · 10-20-2007, 03:31 PM

The Ol' Ball Coach got his ass kicked by Vandy.

Fuck yes. In other news, Texas is really bad and Oklahoma is struggling with Iowa State. Ouch.

Trotskilicious · 10-20-2007, 03:34 PM

Iowa State probably threw that last game since the head coach of ISU was the Texas d. coordinator last year.

And I told you Vandy was better than 5.

Trotskilicious · 10-20-2007, 03:35 PM

whoops interception in the endzone. of course that happened to vandy and they still won but Oklahoma is far better than South Stupid Carolina.

sppunk · 10-20-2007, 03:51 PM

Ohio State and BC both lose next week, so LSU and Oklahoma will be 1 and 2 like they should be all along.

Things tend to always work out in NCAA football (unless you're an Auburn fan).

Trotskilicious · 10-20-2007, 03:55 PM

well they are the best teams, obviously not everyone can be perfect every single week.

silent_brian13 · 10-20-2007, 05:46 PM

i should have never let trots sway my mind on the ucla game.

TuralyonW3 · 10-20-2007, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sppunk

The Ol' Ball Coach got his ass kicked by Vandy.

Fuck yes. In other news, Texas is really bad and Oklahoma is struggling with Iowa State. Ouch.

I told you guys 2-3 weeks ago this Oklahoma team didn't deserve they're ranking, and you guys were jizzing all over them. Texas blew out this Iowa State team in Iowa by like 50 points, while Oklahoma just limped over them 17-7.

TuralyonW3 · 10-20-2007, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sppunk

Ohio State and BC both lose next week, so LSU and Oklahoma will be 1 and 2 like they should be all along.

Things tend to always work out in NCAA football (unless you're an Auburn fan).

You're full of shit, Oklahoma is porous and inconsistent. Maybe they'll be number 2, but not "like they should be all along," that's for sure.

Kanan Road · 10-20-2007, 09:33 PM

who was that man coaching on the sideline today? was that karl fuckin dorrell?

Verner, with the pick, TO THE HOUSEEE

bja1288 · 10-20-2007, 09:46 PM

did they just play the starz riff on the way to a commercial break for the u of i game? lmao

silent_brian13 · 10-20-2007, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

they didn't lose to one of the worst teams in football last year, either.

they did this year, get real. California is not going to lose back to back games.

now there's some intuition.

i am shamed though.

sppunk · 10-21-2007, 12:37 AM

OK, the ending to that LSU-Auburn game was off the wall.

LSU nearly fucked themselves out of a title.

silent_brian13 · 10-21-2007, 12:39 AM

SEC games need to occupy the primetime spot every week.

they have all been great games. i didn't know who to root for either.

Corganist · 10-21-2007, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sppunk

OK, the ending to that LSU-Auburn game was off the wall.

LSU nearly fucked themselves out of a title.

Les Miles is either the smartest coach in the entire country, or he's trying to vie with Houston Nutt to be the undisputed absolute dumbest.

That took some balls.

Trotskilicious · 10-21-2007, 01:02 AM

ok we get it you hate houston nutt

i'm just about to give up trying to pick winners this season is getting really annoying. how do you lose to notre fucking dame and then beat california? huh? what the fuck? how is the 100th rated passing defense going to lock texas tech down to ten points? what's the fucking point anymore? this season is so retarded i kind of hope USF is national champions because this shit is a joke from top to bottom.

jczeroman · 10-21-2007, 01:51 AM

It's sad that probably none of you saw the Oregon/UW game tonight. Wow... maybe this is the duck kool-aid talking - but I have never seen an offense like this, even in the Joey years. 465 rushing yards is just plain nuts. No turnovers (1 end of half heave to the endzone shouldn't cost them) and a defense that kept a great QB like Locker in check at his own stadium.

I'm just beyond belief right now at the consistency I've seen from these guys all year. Oregon doesn't fumble the ball into the back of the endzone against Cal and this team is #1 and in their own tier. However, just like LSU (who doesn't look as dominant anymore) and OU - they made their 1 mistake out of 100 at the wrong time.

Eulogy · 10-21-2007, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jczeroman

It's sad that probably none of you saw the Oregon/UW game tonight. Wow... maybe this is the duck kool-aid talking - but I have never seen an offense like this, even in the Joey years. 465 rushing yards is just plain nuts. No turnovers (1 end of half heave to the endzone shouldn't cost them) and a defense that kept a great QB like Locker in check at his own stadium.

I'm just beyond belief right now at the consistency I've seen from these guys all year. Oregon doesn't fumble the ball into the back of the endzone against Cal and this team is #1 and in their own tier. However, just like LSU (who doesn't look as dominant anymore) and OU - they made their 1 mistake out of 100 at the wrong time.

Cal losing to that shitty UCLA squad doesn't help your case though.

Eulogy · 10-21-2007, 01:58 AM

at least LSU gets a week off before heading to 'Bama. what a brutal 4-game stretch.

benjamin619 · 10-21-2007, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy

Cal losing to that shitty UCLA squad doesn't help your case though.

That was a ridiculous post. Take issue with Oregon's ability, their injuries, or with their play against California, but do not attempt to judge Oregon based on California. If this season has shown anything -- it's that transitivity doesn't exist to the point of judging X upon how Y played Z.

Oregon has played seven games of their own, doubtless better examples of their ability than another team's play. Maybe watching the game, or the highlights, or just reading a summary and checking the stats would be wise, because interrupting an honest commentary with "But California sucked today" is too simple.

TuralyonW3 · 10-21-2007, 05:12 AM

say whatever ya'll want but oregon really shouldn't have lost to cal

Eulogy · 10-21-2007, 01:03 PM

blahblah i admittedly haven't seen much of oregon. i was impressed by the way they hung with Cal, until Cal was exposed as being pretty mediocre. Maybe they're a top-3 team, but i'm not putting them ahead of LSU or....

hm. that's really all i got off the top of my head. maybe they should be #2 at this point. the assertion that Oklahoma is better doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

10-20-2007, 11:22 AM	#189
jczeroman Socialphobic Location: In my house. Posts: 14,465	he's an example of that defense improvement I was talking about: Last edited by jczeroman : 10-20-2007 at 11:34 AM.

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10-19-2007, 03:11 PM	#181
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	Texas is enormous and it has a 50k enrollment. what planet are you on where FORTY THOUSAND people is a "small" college? i mean notre dame is under 12k man. jesus christ.

10-19-2007, 03:17 PM	#183
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	ooooh ok i didn't think you were that dumb i think it's the third largest school in florida. seems like it's just like my alma mater, just accept anyone and even if they flunk out after a year or two you still get the money to build your football team or in UTSA's case line their pockets and build fancy buidlings for the administration and graduate programs.

10-19-2007, 03:34 PM	#186
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	hey jczeroman, are there torrents of games that are just snap to snap without all the bs inbetween? i love the NFL network's rebroadcasting of games minute to minute without any of the play clock standing around shit.

10-19-2007, 03:47 PM	#187
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	by the way guys i just heard that mizzou has the 100th ranked passing defense.

10-20-2007, 11:21 AM	#188
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	not that it matters since i'm the only one who picked that game but Ohio State is totally gonna beat Michigan State but I'm pretty sure that MSU will give them a fight.

10-20-2007, 03:31 PM	#190
sppunk Netphoria's George Will Location: Fenway Park Posts: 37,125	The Ol' Ball Coach got his ass kicked by Vandy. Fuck yes. In other news, Texas is really bad and Oklahoma is struggling with Iowa State. Ouch.

10-20-2007, 03:34 PM	#191
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	Iowa State probably threw that last game since the head coach of ISU was the Texas d. coordinator last year. And I told you Vandy was better than 5.

10-20-2007, 03:35 PM	#192
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	whoops interception in the endzone. of course that happened to vandy and they still won but Oklahoma is far better than South Stupid Carolina.

10-20-2007, 03:51 PM	#193
sppunk Netphoria's George Will Location: Fenway Park Posts: 37,125	Ohio State and BC both lose next week, so LSU and Oklahoma will be 1 and 2 like they should be all along. Things tend to always work out in NCAA football (unless you're an Auburn fan).

10-20-2007, 03:55 PM	#194
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	well they are the best teams, obviously not everyone can be perfect every single week.

10-20-2007, 05:46 PM	#195
silent_brian13 Apocalyptic Poster Location: san diego Posts: 1,435	i should have never let trots sway my mind on the ucla game.

10-20-2007, 09:33 PM	#198
Kanan Road Apocalyptic Poster Location: Cloud Number Nine Posts: 1,569	who was that man coaching on the sideline today? was that karl fuckin dorrell? Verner, with the pick, TO THE HOUSEEE

10-20-2007, 09:46 PM	#199
bja1288 Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 2,206	did they just play the starz riff on the way to a commercial break for the u of i game? lmao

10-21-2007, 12:37 AM	#201
sppunk Netphoria's George Will Location: Fenway Park Posts: 37,125	OK, the ending to that LSU-Auburn game was off the wall. LSU nearly fucked themselves out of a title.

10-21-2007, 12:39 AM	#202
silent_brian13 Apocalyptic Poster Location: san diego Posts: 1,435	SEC games need to occupy the primetime spot every week. they have all been great games. i didn't know who to root for either.

10-21-2007, 01:02 AM	#204
Trotskilicious Banned Location: I believe in the transcendental qualities of friendship. Posts: 39,602	ok we get it you hate houston nutt i'm just about to give up trying to pick winners this season is getting really annoying. how do you lose to notre fucking dame and then beat california? huh? what the fuck? how is the 100th rated passing defense going to lock texas tech down to ten points? what's the fucking point anymore? this season is so retarded i kind of hope USF is national champions because this shit is a joke from top to bottom.

10-21-2007, 01:51 AM	#205
jczeroman Socialphobic Location: In my house. Posts: 14,465	It's sad that probably none of you saw the Oregon/UW game tonight. Wow... maybe this is the duck kool-aid talking - but I have never seen an offense like this, even in the Joey years. 465 rushing yards is just plain nuts. No turnovers (1 end of half heave to the endzone shouldn't cost them) and a defense that kept a great QB like Locker in check at his own stadium. I'm just beyond belief right now at the consistency I've seen from these guys all year. Oregon doesn't fumble the ball into the back of the endzone against Cal and this team is #1 and in their own tier. However, just like LSU (who doesn't look as dominant anymore) and OU - they made their 1 mistake out of 100 at the wrong time.

10-21-2007, 01:58 AM	#207
Eulogy huh Posts: 62,362	at least LSU gets a week off before heading to 'Bama. what a brutal 4-game stretch.

10-21-2007, 05:12 AM	#209
TuralyonW3 Immortal Posts: 25,567	say whatever ya'll want but oregon really shouldn't have lost to cal

10-21-2007, 01:03 PM	#210
Eulogy huh Posts: 62,362	blahblah i admittedly haven't seen much of oregon. i was impressed by the way they hung with Cal, until Cal was exposed as being pretty mediocre. Maybe they're a top-3 team, but i'm not putting them ahead of LSU or.... hm. that's really all i got off the top of my head. maybe they should be #2 at this point. the assertion that Oklahoma is better doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.