Week 8: Netphoria NCAA Top 25 football predictions

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by jczeroman

Tier 4:
Mississippi State, Arkansas

Tier 5:
Mississippi, Vanderbilt

Vandy is more tier 4 than Mississippi State, bud.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

oh it does. it's my hobby i guess. i mean i recruit for six teams, and I play matchups of teams week to week that I don't even recruit for, you can kind of indirectly help teams by winning big games. Baylor is a powerhouse just because of this. I sim the whole regular season on Madden and then play all the playoff games and do all the teams drafting and rosters and trades. Yes, the NFL offseason takes about 30 hours to do.

I have no life, and once I get a career going this will probably fall by the wayside or with my spare time I just won't do anything productive.

it sounds really interesting. i mean, i wish i had that kind of time to just jerk around by myself. i used to hate being alone under any circumstances but now i find myself kind of liking it sometimes. maybe that's just because i get maybe an hour a day at the most now.

[Eulogy]

and arkansas is not worse than vanderbilt, jc. sheesh.

[Nimrod's Son]

WEEK 8 GAMES
No. 2 South Florida at Rutgers
No. 4 LSU vs. No. 17 Auburn
No. 5 Oklahoma at Iowa State
No. 6 South Carolina vs. Vanderbilt
No. 7 Kentucky vs. No. 15 Florida
No. 9 West Virginia vs. Mississippi State
No. 10 Oregon at Washington
No. 12 California at UCLA
No. 13 Kansas at Colorado
No. 14 USC at Notre Dame
No. 16 Missouri vs. No. 24 Texas Tech
No. 19 Virginia at Maryland
No. 21 Tennessee at Alabama
No. 22 Texas at Baylor
No. 23 Cincinnati at Pittsburgh
No. 25 Michigan at Illinois

[omegadown3]

My picks:

Rutgers
LSU
Oklahoma
South Carolina
Florida
Mississippi State
Oregon
Cal
Kansas
USC
Missouri
Virginia
Alabama
Texas
Cincinnati
Michigan

[jczeroman]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

by your logic, the pac-10 has no tier 1.

You've said a lot of dumb things Eulogy and this is by far the worst. The Pac-10 has two to four teams capable of this depending on who you talk to.

[jczeroman]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

and arkansas is not worse than vanderbilt, jc. sheesh.

Please show me where I say this.

[jczeroman]

Originally Posted by Corganist

Oh come on. Arkansas doesn't deserve to be lumped in with that group. Houston Nutt hasn't dragged down the team that far yet (despite his very best efforts to do so). Arkansas is still a solid middle tier SEC team even despite their underachieving thus far. They're a lot closer to Alabama and Auburn than they are to MSU and Vanderbilt.

Auburn and Arkansas are both well overrated in general. You take McFadden's name out (not his ability just the Heisman buzz there) and they are down in tier four. That is probably too objective an analysis for SEC diehards though.

[Trotskilicious]

defend the "objective" statement that Mississippi State > Vanderbilt.

[Trotskilicious]

because i agree with you about most of that but Mississippi State is total crap and Vanderbilt nearly knocked off Georgia.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by jczeroman

Please show me where I say this.

i misread trots's quote of you.

but anyway. the way USC is looking, they're out of the title picture for all intents and purposes. Cal and Oregon are the only two teams that would stand a realistic chance against the top two tiers of the SEC.

and nothing i've said is as dumb as you saying that the Pac10 is the best conference in the country.

[Trotskilicious]

nah that's not dumb. stop jacking off to the sec. Cal, Oregon, and USC are all tier 1 and shit that's better than most conferences. South Carolina is not a legitimate title contender.

you told me the big 12 was shitty a week ago, too.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

nah that's not dumb. stop jacking off to the sec. Cal, Oregon, and USC are all tier 1 and shit that's better than most conferences. South Carolina is not a legitimate title contender.

you told me the big 12 was shitty a week ago, too.

Ok

USC/Cal/Oregon vs. LSU/Kentucky/Florida (why you refuse to ******* SC is beyond me, but we'll do it anyway). who wins that one?

Auburn/South Carolina vs. Arizona St. --no other Pac10 team is on this level.

Alabama/Tennessee vs. UCLA/Washington

everyone else is pretty much just shitty. so please explain to me how the Pac10 comes out on top here. i seriously do not understand it.

[Eulogy]

...I didn't even realize Washington was 2-4. i thought they were decent for some reason.

[Trotskilicious]

that's because you're a little asshole

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

that's because you're a little asshole

why does that make me an asshole? if you can look at those divisions and either tell me they're wrong or tell the Pac10 stacks up better, then fine. but i don't think you would.

[Trotskilicious]

what's with the other USC bandwagon by the way? they were tier 3 last year you can't make a two tier jump without beating a tier 1. You know once S Car beats Florida or LSU i'll entertain the idea that they are teir 1 but they're still 3 right now.

kentucky is not 1, they are 2.

[Eulogy]

...and i'm not letting you pick fights with me anymore either. just to let you know before you get going.

[Trotskilicious]

i can't really say since i haven't watched either conference this year since i am your resident big xii expert

however, it feels like the SEC is kind of weak this year compared to last.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

what's with the other USC bandwagon by the way? they were tier 3 last year you can't make a two tier jump without beating a tier 1. You know once S Car beats Florida or LSU i'll entertain the idea that they are teir 1 but they're still 3 right now.

kentucky is not 1, they are 2.

South Carolina's body of work is more impressive than Southern California's, is it not? Southern Cal's best win is against....who? Nebraska? then they lose to Stanford and have to come from behind against Arizona? a team that appears to be even worse than they were supposed to be? i put kentucky in "tier 1" on the basis that southern cal was also being considered in tier 1. if you're removing kentucky, you have to remove southern cal. forget the pre-season hype and recent history, because USC hasn't done anything impressive this year.

I still have hope for Cal and Oregon because at times they have looked truly awesome.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

...and i'm not letting you pick fights with me anymore either. just to let you know before you get going.

i'm not picking fights

you are a little asshole. come on just accept it.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

however, it feels like the SEC is kind of weak this year compared to last.

i think you and jczeroman are the only two people on the planet who would say this.

Alabama, South Carolina, and Kentucky are all loads better than they were a year ago. Arkansas is playing as shitty as it did in spots last year. Florida is still very good, Auburn is solid, and LSU is the best team in the country. LSU, Kentucky, SC, and Florida could all be legit top-ten teams at the end of the year.

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

i'm not picking fights

you are a little asshole. come on just accept it.

i'm really not though. promise.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Eulogy

South Carolina's body of work is more impressive than Southern California's, is it not? Southern Cal's best win is against....who? Nebraska? then they lose to Stanford and have to come from behind against Arizona? a team that appears to be even worse than they were supposed to be? i put kentucky in "tier 1" on the basis that southern cal was also being considered in tier 1. if you're removing kentucky, you have to remove southern cal. forget the pre-season hype and recent history, because USC hasn't done anything impressive this year.

I still have hope for Cal and Oregon because at times they have looked truly awesome.

who cares who USC has beaten thus far they're

THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA TROJANS

[Eulogy]

Originally Posted by Trotskilicious

who cares who USC has beaten thus far they're

THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA TROJANS

see i hope this is sarcasm. it's not just that they haven't beaten anyone. it's that they've looked totally pedestrian beating Idaho, Washington St., and Arizone. while losing to Stanford.

[Corganist]

Originally Posted by jczeroman

Auburn and Arkansas are both well overrated in general. You take McFadden's name out (not his ability just the Heisman buzz there) and they are down in tier four.

That's ridiculous. I'm willing to accept that Auburn is a Tier 3 team like you say, but I don't see how Arkansas losing by low single digits to Tier 3 Alabama and Auburn, and letting Tier 1 Kentucky off the hook late suddenly puts them on the level of Vanderbilt and Mississippi State. There's a wide chasm between the middle of the the SEC and the bottom, and Arkansas right in there with the Auburn, Bama, and Georgia crowd, not the Vandy, Ole Miss, MSU crowd.

Any other coach in the country other than Nutt would have Arkansas at least 5-1 and sitting pretty in Tier 2 right now. Arkansas was not overrated, they've just been undercoached. But they haven't been coached down to Mississippi State levels by any stretch of the imagination. If you're gonna be objective, fine, but there's nothing objective about the way you're pushing down teams (and not just Arkansas) below their rightful ranking in order to make the SEC look weak.

[Trotskilicious]

no way i bet they beat either cal or oregon this year they're being lazy because they think they're soooooooooooo great.

[Trotskilicious]

Originally Posted by Corganist

That's ridiculous. I'm willing to accept that Auburn is a Tier 3 team like you say, but I don't see how Arkansas losing by low single digits to Tier 3 Alabama and Auburn, and letting Tier 1 Kentucky off the hook late suddenly puts them on the level of Vanderbilt and Mississippi State.

tier 4 is defined as " teams that play other, higher tiered teams fairly close but don't have the talent/discipline to get over the hump."

if they won even one of those games they'd be 3.

[Eulogy]

let's check those super-subjective computers

1. South Florida
2. LSU
3. South Carolina
4. Kentucky
5. OSU/ASU
7. BC
8. VT/KU
10. WVU

i mean those aren't perfect by any stretch of the imagination....but yeah. something to think about.

[Trotskilicious]

GAY!

USC isn't on that list because they got upset by Stanford.

Michigan is still a good team even though they got beat by App State.