tipping delivery people - Page 7

KrazeeStacee · 10-14-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bardy

did you read her thread about high blood pressure?

I think that's why he thought it was funny...

Eulogy · 10-14-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by KrazeeStacee

And besides, I've heard that it's a common thing for delivery drivers to put known "bad tippers" on the bottom of the pile and deliver to the people who give good tips first. So fuck that. Like Glass's point about we're only tipping to ensure our food doesn't get fucked with. Fuck that.

oh, you've heard that it's common. obviously everyone does it.

drivers take shit as it comes. period. at least at my place.

wHATcOLOR · 10-14-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bardy

did you read her thread about high blood pressure?

some of it, yeah. that's why i made the connection

bardy · 10-14-2007, 01:33 PM

wegave this little mexican pizza delivery guy a huge tip last time we ordered pizza and hsi eyes got so huge, it was cute. I hope it made up for all you bad tippers

Eulogy · 10-14-2007, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KrazeeStacee

Right, so they're only working on the busy nights, and the nights when they get big party orders so they're guaranteed to get lots of tips for that night. So why am I supposed to have pity for him again? He's expected to do his job just like the rest of us, so if he has some integrity to do his job right then he should deserve a tip. What are you not getting about this Eulogy?

Fuck you, Hester just scored a touchdown so I gotta go watch the game. I'll be back later.

"big party orders" were not really a staple of my delivery experience. i'm not saying you should pity them. i'm saying you should do what is expected of the consumer in that situation.

KrazeeStacee · 10-14-2007, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy

when drives get back from a run, they grab what they can deliver in one trip and take it.

There you go, right there. What they can take in one trip. What determines what they can take in one trip? How much shit they can fit in their car? No...they're not going to take 20 orders because the last guy's probably gonna get a cold pizza.

...to the game. Be back later.

Eulogy · 10-14-2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bardy

wegave this little mexican pizza delivery guy a huge tip last time we ordered pizza and hsi eyes got so huge, it was cute. I hope it made up for all you bad tippers

honestly, one good tip could make my night sometimes. i don't think people get that an extra dollar isn't a big deal for them most likely, but it certainly adds up.

Eulogy · 10-14-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KrazeeStacee

There you go, right there. What they can take in one trip. What determines what they can take in one trip? How much shit they can fit in their car? No...they're not going to take 20 orders because the last guy's probably gonna get a cold pizza.

it depends on where the other drivers are, where the places are that need to be delivered to, and how long stuff has been ready to go. i love how you're talking about this like you have some vast wealth of knowledge, but in reality, you don't even have a basic understanding of how the job works.

bardy · 10-14-2007, 01:38 PM

dont insult intelligence, stick to the facts to win guys

pale_princess · 10-14-2007, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KrazeeStacee

If you have to support 3 kids why are you a delivery driver? Why not say, get a better job? I mean hell, anyone can find a better job than a delivery driver with more consistant and better pay. I'm not going to feel bad for people like that. If you decided to have not 1, not 2, but 3 kids to have to support...well you should've planned a little better beforehand and been in a better financial situation so that when someone stiffs you on a tip it doesn't mean your kids can't get new shoes this week.

whoa. i don't know about chicago, but in toronto, these are mostly dudes that are certified as, like, doctors and engineers in their home countries and move here and end up having to take the shittiest jobs. :-/

Eulogy · 10-14-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bardy

dont insult intelligence, stick to the facts to win guys

she doesn't have any facts. just her misguided assumptions.

KrazeeStacee · 10-14-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bardy

wegave this little mexican pizza delivery guy a huge tip last time we ordered pizza and hsi eyes got so huge, it was cute. I hope it made up for all you bad tippers

See, I still don't consider myself a bad tipper, I consider myself a fair tipper. One time we ate at Denny's and this woman put up with all our silliness and talking with us...she was just so nice and really enjoyed helping people. We ended up giving her a $20 tip and it was just three of us getting breakfasts. I don't even think the bill was much over $20. She stopped us going out the door and asked if we meant to do that and wanted to give it back...we told her how she deserved it because she just made our day. She thanked us over and over and it felt really good.

I'm not an asshole, I'm just not going to give someone an exceptional tip if I don't get exceptional service.

KrazeeStacee · 10-14-2007, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy

it depends on where the other drivers are, where the places are that need to be delivered to, and how long stuff has been ready to go. i love how you're talking about this like you have some vast wealth of knowledge, but in reality, you don't even have a basic understanding of how the job works.

It's not that hard. Most of my friends have worked in the food business and I've heard all the stories. I'm sure that doesn't qualify as a wealth of knowledge, but I'm not sitting here saying I have that. I'm saying if you have a job, do it. If you can't do it, find a way to fix it or find a better job for you. There's no exceptions, everyone is expected to do the job they're choosing to take on.

Fattening Ass · 10-14-2007, 02:34 PM

i dunno if this was covered, but dumb fuck delivery drivers can actually keep mileage counts and use it when doing their taxes.

Fattening Ass · 10-14-2007, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy

it's not their only job. it's a job they work on friday and saturday nights, sacrificing any free time they may have for themselves.

boo hoo

Elvis The Fat Years · 10-14-2007, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fattening Ass

dumb fuck delivery drivers

is this their offical job title?

Fattening Ass · 10-14-2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Elvis The Fat Years

is this their offical job title?

at some establishments it is !!

Eulogy · 10-14-2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KrazeeStacee

It's not that hard. Most of my friends have worked in the food business and I've heard all the stories. I'm sure that doesn't qualify as a wealth of knowledge, but I'm not sitting here saying I have that. I'm saying if you have a job, do it. If you can't do it, find a way to fix it or find a better job for you. There's no exceptions, everyone is expected to do the job they're choosing to take on.

you. are. missing. my. point. entirely. i know what is expected of me. and the people i delivered to knew that if i did what was expected, they should tip me. yes it is an absurd concept, but that is unfortunately how it works. you understand this, so i don't know why you keep telling me to quit if i don't like it. my only point is that if everyone were glassgowkiss, then i would be forced to quit, which seems kind of unfair.

Fattening Ass · 10-14-2007, 02:51 PM

i don't even have time to get into this, but what Eulogy "expects" is pretty absurd.

off to work.

Elvis The Fat Years · 10-14-2007, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy

i don't know why you keep telling me to quit if i don't like it.

exactly. why stop doing something you don't like.

stacy, enough with your crazy talk.

flavin · 10-14-2007, 03:09 PM

If no one tipped, then delivery people would almost surely quit, which would force places to raise their food prices or add a delivery fee to pay those people, so non-tippers wouldn't really be saving any money.

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Originally Posted by KrazeeStacee

I'm just not going to give someone an exceptional tip if I don't get exceptional service.

Just wondering, do you think this is impossible from a delivery person, because you don't have a conversation/etc with them? (Or because it's too short an interaction to tell?)

Eulogy · 10-14-2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Elvis The Fat Years

exactly. why stop doing something you don't like.

stacy, enough with your crazy talk.

please point to where i said i didn't like the job.

brendo_91 · 10-14-2007, 03:13 PM

yeah, generally here there's either a delivery fee or a minimum order... no tips expected, as the delivery guys are paid.

Elvis The Fat Years · 10-14-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Eulogy

please point to where i said i didn't like the job.

it's impolite to point.

Future Boy · 10-14-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by flavin

If no one tipped, then delivery people would almost surely quit, which would force places to raise their food prices or add a delivery fee to pay those people, so non-tippers wouldn't really be saving any money.

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Someone would always be there for those jobs, dont be an idiot.

brendo_91 · 10-14-2007, 03:31 PM

if there was no pay and no tips?

volunteer delivery drivers?

Future Boy · 10-14-2007, 03:33 PM

They only get paid in tips?

MADpeace · 10-14-2007, 03:38 PM

WOW. You don't read this shit for a weekend and look what happens!

Well, I started it, so maybe I'll wrap it up. Here's what I think based on all of your thoughts.

Eulogy is a terrible drunk with an anger problem, and I think you define a generation who seems to say less the more you speak.

As for tipping...it's just inherently difficult to gage a delivery person's service compared to a waiter's service. If a waiter is like the one at Denny's, funny and helpful, great big tip. If not, then small tip, if any (though I personally always tip). But a delivery person, who knows.

Honesty is something lacking in this industry. If these people only work off of tips, then maybe make that known to customers. OR, if delivery people are desparate about it, they can not yell at people at me for tipping them less than THEY expect, but they can complain to their bosses and tell them to inform customers, or add a delivery charge for them.

In the end, it's clear that guy was totally wrong at being upset with me. To answer some questions that were brought up...this place is about four blocks away but I was high and didn't feel like shlepping it, but it certainly didn't take up too much business for the driver.

Until the insitution "crumbles" (haha, ooooh eulogy), just tip based on service and your own previous beliefs. I agree with the sentiment that in other jobs I've done alot of shitty stuff that, in essense, cost me money for things like gas. Just don't take it out on the customers.

flavin · 10-14-2007, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Future Boy

Someone would always be there for those jobs, dont be an idiot.

What I meant was, if under those unreal circumstances where everyone stopped tipping, the current delivery people would be fed up with the decrease in wages and quit (like many in this thread are advising), then they would be replaced and the new workers would be paid through additional delivery fees, etc.

Hope that clarifies my point better, not trying to say that they would do away with their delivery business.

DeviousJ · 10-14-2007, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Future Boy

They only get paid in tips?

Eulogy says so

And I don't think I've ever ordered from a place that didn't add a delivery charge, or at least require a large minimum order for free delivery. If these drivers are just happy little volunteer elves who give their time and use of their car to the company for free, why is the company charging money for a service they're not providing?

10-14-2007, 02:51 PM	#199
Fattening Ass Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Planet Nintendu 64 Posts: 30,825	i don't even have time to get into this, but what Eulogy "expects" is pretty absurd. off to work. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-14-2007, 01:33 PM	#184
bardy Immortal Location: helllllloooooo!! Posts: 20,831	wegave this little mexican pizza delivery guy a huge tip last time we ordered pizza and hsi eyes got so huge, it was cute. I hope it made up for all you bad tippers

10-14-2007, 01:38 PM	#189
bardy Immortal Location: helllllloooooo!! Posts: 20,831	dont insult intelligence, stick to the facts to win guys

10-14-2007, 02:34 PM	#194
Fattening Ass Just Hook it to My Veins! Location: Planet Nintendu 64 Posts: 30,825	i dunno if this was covered, but dumb fuck delivery drivers can actually keep mileage counts and use it when doing their taxes.

10-14-2007, 03:13 PM	#203
brendo_91 Minion of Satan Location: ██████████ Posts: 6,479	yeah, generally here there's either a delivery fee or a minimum order... no tips expected, as the delivery guys are paid.

10-14-2007, 03:31 PM	#206
brendo_91 Minion of Satan Location: ██████████ Posts: 6,479	if there was no pay and no tips? volunteer delivery drivers?

10-14-2007, 03:33 PM	#207
Future Boy The Man of Tomorrow Posts: 26,972	They only get paid in tips?

10-14-2007, 03:38 PM	#208
MADpeace Ownz Location: oooooo I'm around... Posts: 923	WOW. You don't read this shit for a weekend and look what happens! Well, I started it, so maybe I'll wrap it up. Here's what I think based on all of your thoughts. Eulogy is a terrible drunk with an anger problem, and I think you define a generation who seems to say less the more you speak. As for tipping...it's just inherently difficult to gage a delivery person's service compared to a waiter's service. If a waiter is like the one at Denny's, funny and helpful, great big tip. If not, then small tip, if any (though I personally always tip). But a delivery person, who knows. Honesty is something lacking in this industry. If these people only work off of tips, then maybe make that known to customers. OR, if delivery people are desparate about it, they can not yell at people at me for tipping them less than THEY expect, but they can complain to their bosses and tell them to inform customers, or add a delivery charge for them. In the end, it's clear that guy was totally wrong at being upset with me. To answer some questions that were brought up...this place is about four blocks away but I was high and didn't feel like shlepping it, but it certainly didn't take up too much business for the driver. Until the insitution "crumbles" (haha, ooooh eulogy), just tip based on service and your own previous beliefs. I agree with the sentiment that in other jobs I've done alot of shitty stuff that, in essense, cost me money for things like gas. Just don't take it out on the customers.