"Stellar" is the perfect fusion of Machina-era and Adore-era SP

morespsoon · 09-17-2007, 09:09 AM

True. Too bad it's heartless but beyond that, "Stellar" is the perfect fusion of Machina-era and Adore-era SP.

Rockin' Cherub · 09-17-2007, 09:18 AM

that would be disco king

SpFission · 09-17-2007, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by morespsoon

True. Too bad it's heartless but beyond that, "Stellar" is the perfect fusion of Machina-era and Adore-era SP.

heartless?

you lost me.

morespsoon · 09-17-2007, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SpFission

heartless?

you lost me.

I don't think it's a word but "anti-emotion" comes to mind when think of "Stellar".

SpFission · 09-17-2007, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by morespsoon

I don't think it's a word but "anti-emotion" comes to mind when think of "Stellar".

I think you could make a case for Stellar being one of the few Zeitgeist songs with emotion.

BumbleBeeMouth · 09-17-2007, 09:39 AM

I dont think machina and adore can fusion without the adore sound being soiled. I understand where you are coming from. Its like machina tone in adore style.

morespsoon · 09-17-2007, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BumbleBeeMouth

I dont think machina and adore can fusion without the adore sound being soiled. I understand where you are coming from. Its like machina tone in adore style.

Exactly. Pretty cool, huh?

morespsoon · 09-17-2007, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SpFission

I think you could make a case for Stellar being one of the few Zeitgeist songs with emotion.

It has emotion but it's not engaging like most of Billy's songs. The emotion irritates me which is why I say it's "anti-emotion." The emotion is a put off rather than a plus. Billy is slipping in many ways.

BumbleBeeMouth · 09-17-2007, 09:50 AM

Not true, have you heard zeitgeist zeitgeist?

exactlythesame · 09-17-2007, 10:03 AM

it's more like the perfect fusion of corgan solo and pumpkins

arCHI · 09-17-2007, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by exactlythesame

it's more like the perfect fusion of corgan solo and pumpkins

This is what I was thinking too. It seems like the most natural progression from older work.

Machina>TFE>Stellar makes sense in my mind.

darthjul · 09-17-2007, 11:55 AM

Seems like a fair estimation of Zeitgeist era pumpkins to me.

MonteLDS · 09-17-2007, 11:57 AM

i am not sure how to vote yet because i have not listen to stellar since the 1st week it came out.
but as i listen to it now i am not sure what era you could compair it to. it sounds very machina II to me. like unfinished in a way. but the intro i guess that can seem kind of adore like.

*shrug*

sweetanthony · 09-17-2007, 01:12 PM

Stellar has nothing to do with anything "Adore" - Its a perfect mashup of a TFE song played by Pumpkins.

redbreegull · 09-17-2007, 01:12 PM

Yeah, Stellar is definately heavily utilizing the TFE sound. Neverlost is the other track that does this excessively so.

exactlythesame · 09-17-2007, 04:23 PM

yay people agree with me

Virex Kills · 09-17-2007, 04:28 PM

Stellar is unquestionably my favorite zeitgeist-era track.
And ya, as exactlythesame said...there's a strong TFE background, but with so many elements that remind me of SP's backcatalogue. It somehow reminds me of Home and Shame.

And heartless/anti-emotional? Barely...

smashingjj · 09-17-2007, 04:52 PM

Stellar just kind of sounds exactly if you'd mix the youthful enthusiasm of The Marked with the happyness of Zwan, added a bit of Starchildren experiment, a little bit TFE gayness and the redundancy of SP2. With a little Last Hard Men flavour to it, of course.

morespsoon · 09-18-2007, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by smashingjj

Stellar just kind of sounds exactly if you'd mix the youthful enthusiasm of The Marked with the happyness of Zwan, added a bit of Starchildren experiment, a little bit TFE gayness and the redundancy of SP2. With a little Last Hard Men flavour to it, of course.

No SP1 in the recipe? I think it's one of the most SP1ish songs in the Z-era.

Kahlo · 07:50 AM

I loved this at first, but now when I hear it it sounds slightly 'dead' as in Corgan hasn't invested himself in the song or something.

Anvil Hands · 09-18-2007, 10:03 AM

I just realised the other day this song has no vocal layering.

maybee thats why it's not on the album.

Thaniel Buckner · 09-18-2007, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sweetanthony

Stellar has nothing to do with anything "Adore" - Its a perfect mashup of a TFE song played by Pumpkins.

QFT

Corganist · 09-18-2007, 12:22 PM

It sounds nothing like Adore. It sounds even less like TFE. If Stellar is a fusion of anything, its one part Machina era and nine parts Zeitgeist era.

Mayfuck · 09-18-2007, 12:32 PM

corganist, can you upload 51 by kimaira

exactlythesame · 09-18-2007, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Corganist

It sounds nothing like Adore. It sounds even less like TFE. If Stellar is a fusion of anything, its one part Machina era and nine parts Zeitgeist era.

that guitar tone is straight out of TFE, complete with chorus, echo, and flanger

DoomsdayRocket · 09-18-2007, 05:27 PM

i thought the perfect fusion of machina style and adore style was
raindrops + sunshowers...

stellar sounds more like the future embrace/pumpkins to me... but surprisingly is a good song

morespsoon · 09-19-2007, 12:11 AM

"True" is winning! Why aren't the Stellar-truthers posting?

Gossamer · 09-19-2007, 12:20 AM

This song should have been on the album.

Definitely one of the best from this era, even though it does suffer from terribly strained sounding Billy vox.

ciGarski · 09-19-2007, 12:43 AM

satur9.

exactlythesame · 09-19-2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by morespsoon

"True" is winning! Why aren't the Stellar-truthers posting?

i already voted, sorry

i'm only one person

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09-17-2007, 09:09 AM	#1
morespsoon Ownz Posts: 613	"Stellar" is the perfect fusion of Machina-era and Adore-era SP True. Too bad it's heartless but beyond that, "Stellar" is the perfect fusion of Machina-era and Adore-era SP.

09-18-2007, 07:43 AM	#20
Kahlo Beffen separatist. Location: Lovephoria Posts: 16,390	I loved this at first, but now when I hear it it sounds slightly 'dead' as in Corgan hasn't invested himself in the song or something. Last edited by Kahlo : 09-18-2007 at 07:50 AM.

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09-17-2007, 09:18 AM	#2
Rockin' Cherub Braindead Location: the amazing year 400 million Posts: 18,207	that would be disco king

09-17-2007, 09:39 AM	#6
BumbleBeeMouth Apocalyptic Poster Location: assertive, tattooed and tough, dangerous, etc, Posts: 4,343	I dont think machina and adore can fusion without the adore sound being soiled. I understand where you are coming from. Its like machina tone in adore style.

09-17-2007, 09:50 AM	#9
BumbleBeeMouth Apocalyptic Poster Location: assertive, tattooed and tough, dangerous, etc, Posts: 4,343	Not true, have you heard zeitgeist zeitgeist?

09-17-2007, 10:03 AM	#10
exactlythesame Minion of Satan Location: I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes Posts: 7,686	it's more like the perfect fusion of corgan solo and pumpkins

09-17-2007, 11:55 AM	#12
darthjul Made of sunshine Posts: 175	Seems like a fair estimation of Zeitgeist era pumpkins to me.

09-17-2007, 11:57 AM	#13
MonteLDS sigh Posts: 8,822	i am not sure how to vote yet because i have not listen to stellar since the 1st week it came out. but as i listen to it now i am not sure what era you could compair it to. it sounds very machina II to me. like unfinished in a way. but the intro i guess that can seem kind of adore like. shrug

09-17-2007, 01:12 PM	#14
sweetanthony Ownz Location: under a rock, er, chicago Posts: 590	Stellar has nothing to do with anything "Adore" - Its a perfect mashup of a TFE song played by Pumpkins.

09-17-2007, 01:12 PM	#15
redbreegull Socialphobic Location: listen you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth Posts: 11,476	Yeah, Stellar is definately heavily utilizing the TFE sound. Neverlost is the other track that does this excessively so.

09-17-2007, 04:23 PM	#16
exactlythesame Minion of Satan Location: I thought what I'd do is I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes Posts: 7,686	yay people agree with me

09-17-2007, 04:28 PM	#17
Virex Kills Apocalyptic Poster Posts: 1,052	Stellar is unquestionably my favorite zeitgeist-era track. And ya, as exactlythesame said...there's a strong TFE background, but with so many elements that remind me of SP's backcatalogue. It somehow reminds me of Home and Shame. And heartless/anti-emotional? Barely...

09-17-2007, 04:52 PM	#18
smashingjj Immortal Location: the "Employee of the Month" parking spot Posts: 24,442	Stellar just kind of sounds exactly if you'd mix the youthful enthusiasm of The Marked with the happyness of Zwan, added a bit of Starchildren experiment, a little bit TFE gayness and the redundancy of SP2. With a little Last Hard Men flavour to it, of course.

09-18-2007, 10:03 AM	#21
Anvil Hands Ownz Location: somewhere Posts: 845	I just realised the other day this song has no vocal layering. maybee thats why it's not on the album.

09-18-2007, 12:22 PM	#23
Corganist Minion of Satan Location: Arkansas Posts: 7,226	It sounds nothing like Adore. It sounds even less like TFE. If Stellar is a fusion of anything, its one part Machina era and nine parts Zeitgeist era.

09-18-2007, 12:32 PM	#24
Mayfuck genderqueer millionaire Location: i'm from japan also hollywood Posts: 57,377	corganist, can you upload 51 by kimaira

09-18-2007, 05:27 PM	#26
DoomsdayRocket Demi-God Posts: 475	i thought the perfect fusion of machina style and adore style was raindrops + sunshowers... stellar sounds more like the future embrace/pumpkins to me... but surprisingly is a good song

09-19-2007, 12:11 AM	#27
morespsoon Ownz Posts: 613	"True" is winning! Why aren't the Stellar-truthers posting?

09-19-2007, 12:20 AM	#28
Gossamer Apocalyptic Poster Location: We got it like three quarters of the way in whilst on vacation last week. Minor success. Unfortunately she is leaving for England in a couple of days. Posts: 3,787	This song should have been on the album. Definitely one of the best from this era, even though it does suffer from terribly strained sounding Billy vox.

09-19-2007, 12:43 AM	#29
ciGarski is thinking of you Location: I can't control my shakes, how the hell did I get here? Posts: 14,083	satur9.