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Old 09-12-2002, 11:28 AM   #31
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here's a grolier encyclopedia article that basicaly says the same thing the amendment says but you people for some reason have an inability to trust primary documents

22ND AMENDMENT


The Twenty-Second Amendment (1951) to the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES limits the presidential tenure to two terms of office. It further states that if a VICE-PRESIDENT succeeds to the PRESIDENCY with two years or less of the former president's term remaining, then the new president may be elected for two more terms; otherwise, the new president may be elected for only one more term.

This amendment was proposed by a Republican CONGRESS in reaction to the four-term presidency of Franklin D. ROOSEVELT, who broke the two-term tradition begun by George WASHINGTON. It also reflected national concern with the prolonged domination of any one president in that office and the growth of executive power. Critics have felt that it weakens a second-term president and could present a hazard in a time of crisis.


 
Old 09-12-2002, 11:31 AM   #32
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'Because There's a 22nd Amendment'

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Political Points
Video: Clinton's Political Ads
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By LISA TOZZI
resident Bill Clinton brought down the house Thursday night at the White House Radio & Television Correspondents annual dinner, where he aired a series of Gore for President "commercials." The mock ads were replayed on Friday's Political Points.

The mock campaign spots featured video clips from the president's "A Place Called Hope" ad along with narration by Mr. Clinton that poked fun at his desire to remain in the spotlight. Two of the final slogans were "Al Gore: Because there's a 22nd Amendment," and "Too much like Clinton? Good for him. Good for us."

If that kind of endorsement isn't ringing enough for Mr. Gore, he can take satisfaction in the fact that he has picked up the coveted hairband/heavy-****l vote. Members of Twisted Sister, the 1980's heavy ****l band that fell under attack during Tipper Gore's controversial crusade to clean up pop music, are letting bygones be bygones.

"I'm sort of supporting Al Gore, which is bizarre," says lead singer Dee Snider, who testified at the infamous 1985 Senate hearings on whether record albums and CDs should carry warning labels. "I don't trust the guy as far as I can throw him. He's a conservative liberal, but I think he's going to chew up George W. (Bush) and spit him out. He's an old-school, dirty-fighting politician."

Political Points also continued its coverage of tight U.S. House and Senate races Friday, focusing on Michigan's 8th District. Guest Dianne Byrum, the Democratic candidate running against Republican Mike Rogers (a guest on the March 31st Webcast), talked about her campaign to succeed incumbent Congresswoman Debbie Stabenow.

The race is considered key in the Democrats' effort to regain control of the U.S. House of Representatives.

Political Points is a live Webcast from ABCNews.com and The New York Times on the Web.


 
Old 09-12-2002, 02:21 PM   #33
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....can't.....let......this.......go...

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I <3 Clinton!

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I was an intern... towards the end of the Clinton administration
who came first? joey or bill?

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Old 09-12-2002, 02:37 PM   #34
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ick. i'm glad i missed it.

 
Old 09-12-2002, 04:00 PM   #35
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I wouldn't expect Letterman to be like Bill O'Reilly in that format, nor should he have been, but his gushing over Clinton is symptomatic of being enthralled by a great poet. He doesnt have to make sense, as long as it feels good going down.

The man is brilliant. This is what makes him dangerous and an outright demagogue. I'll just assume y'all Clinton Coolade drinkers will disagree with me on that, the two-term limit is there largely so that a populace doesnt get too enthralled with a charismatic leader.

Being masterful at rhetoric doesnt make a man a great (or even good) president, despite how the media frames Clinton as such. He was better for them (and comedians) then the country and his own party for that matter.

That's what makes me laugh about it all. He left his own party in shambles, but hey, he's still trying to work on his legacy and this Letterman appearance is proof of that.



 
Old 09-12-2002, 04:01 PM   #36
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Old 09-13-2002, 05:21 PM   #37
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I'm not a fan of all of Clinton's policies, but he is such an intelligent guy. I mean can you even imagine seeing our current president discussing foreign policy the way Clinton did on Letterman? Or any other policy, for that matter.

 
Old 09-13-2002, 05:24 PM   #38
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apparently clinton has one of the highest presidential iqs ever. i forget where i heard that. maybe i'm making it up. if i'm not making it up i should be able to remember oh. jimmy carter is the winnar i think but maybe i'm making that up too.

 
Old 09-13-2002, 05:27 PM   #39
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Clinton is the man!

Damn that two term limit policy!

 
Old 09-13-2002, 05:30 PM   #40
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if not for that two limit term policy we'd have a 90-something-year-old ex-movie star with alzheimers as our president right now.

come to think about it what we have isn't much worse.

 
Old 09-13-2002, 05:47 PM   #41
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I mean can you even imagine seeing our current president discussing foreign policy the way Clinton did on Letterman? Or any other policy, for that matter.
god thatd be good. id pay to see that. clinton handled himself so well, i cant imagine bush tackling one of those questions. hed throw around big words and hope noone notices



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Old 09-13-2002, 06:13 PM   #42
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if not for that two limit term policy we'd have a 90-something-year-old ex-movie star with alzheimers as our president right now.

come to think about it what we have isn't much worse.
That made me laugh my ass off.

 
Old 09-14-2002, 09:06 PM   #43
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http://www.bmstahoe.com/J/Libertarian/duh.jpg

 
Old 09-14-2002, 09:44 PM   #44
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Shut the fuck up, Elisa.
now that was uncalled for. all i know is that there was a president pre-1900 that was elected, was off for a term, and was then re-elected. I guess that was amended with the Roosevelt amendment but christ it's an honest mistake.


 
Old 09-14-2002, 09:57 PM   #45
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Originally posted by Mayfuck:
Shut the fuck up, Elisa.
now that was uncalled for. all i know is that there was a president pre-1900 that was elected, was off for a term, and was then re-elected. I guess that was amended with the Roosevelt amendment but christ it's an honest mistake.


well i know teddy roosevelt RAN after he left office...i'll try to find out if there was someone else who actually was elected . but there haven't been any presidents who have served more than 2 terms besides fdr. george washington started that tradition and it was held for 250 years.

 
Old 09-14-2002, 09:59 PM   #46
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yeah. teddy roosevelt served twice, took a break, ran again, and wasn't elected.

 
Old 09-14-2002, 10:00 PM   #47
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Originally posted by Samsa:

well i know teddy roosevelt RAN after he left office...i'll try to find out if there was someone else who actually was elected . but there haven't been any presidents who have served more than 2 terms besides fdr. george washington started that tradition and it was held for 250 years.
shit that's what i'm thinking of. he was total a two term president, but i think it was like 2.5 because he was vp, that guy died, and he served another. then he went away and came back. but i can't remember and i don't have my notes form that class anymore



 
Old 09-14-2002, 10:01 PM   #48
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grover cleveland!

4 Mar 1885 - 4 Mar 1889 Grover Cleveland (1st time) Dem (b. 1837 - d. 1908)
4 Mar 1889 - 4 Mar 1893 Benjamin Harrison Rep (b. 1833 - d. 1901)
4 Mar 1893 - 4 Mar 1897 Grover Cleveland (2nd time) Dem (s.a.)

 
Old 09-14-2002, 10:02 PM   #49
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ding ding ding jackpot. still he wasn't a 2+ term.

 
Old 09-14-2002, 10:02 PM   #50
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I believe it was Garfield who served two non consecutive terms.

 
Old 09-14-2002, 10:03 PM   #51
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I believe it was Garfield who served two non consecutive terms.
4 Mar 1881 - 19 Sep 1881 James A. Garfield Rep (b. 1831 - d. 1881)


ASSSASSINATION4U?

 
Old 09-14-2002, 10:05 PM   #52
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4 Mar 1881 - 19 Sep 1881 James A. Garfield Rep (b. 1831 - d. 1881)


ASSSASSINATION4U?
Actually, he died of some sort of illness, now that I remember.

What about taft?


 
Old 09-14-2002, 10:06 PM   #53
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ding ding ding jackpot. still he wasn't a 2+ term.
ding ding ding jackpot for what? if you were referring to your post above cleveland isn't your guy. he was elected both times (to my knowledge).

 
Old 09-14-2002, 10:06 PM   #54
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Grover Cleveland
(person) by Mike626 (4 d) (print) ? 1 C! Wed Aug 15 2001 at 00:28:44


Introduction
Grover Cleveland (March 18, 1837-June 24, 1908) was the 22nd and 24th President of the United States, and the only president to be elected to two non-consecutive terms from 1885-1889 and again in 1893-1897. During his time in office he was known for attempting to take a bipartisan view, and not waiver to the political pressures of his party. As a result, he offended nearly every political group, as well as several influential private interests. In sharp contrast to most politicos, he is remembered for the steadfast nature of his integrity, as opposed to any specific achievement during his tenure as President.



 
Old 09-14-2002, 10:07 PM   #55
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Oh yes, other replies before mine.

I'm a smart'un.

 
Old 09-14-2002, 10:10 PM   #56
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well i know teddy roosevelt RAN after he left office...i'll try to find out if there was someone else who actually was elected . but there haven't been any presidents who have served more than 2 terms besides fdr. george washington started that tradition and it was held for 250 years.
shit that's what i'm thinking of. he was total a two term president, but i think it was like 2.5 because he was vp, that guy died, and he served another. then he went away and came back. but i can't remember and i don't have my notes form that class anymore

well teddy roosevelt became president when mckinley died, then served another term, then ran like a term later and as mentioned before lost. so no he wasn't a 2.5 term president..and...calvin coolidge was a 1.5 term president (harding died and..

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?...&node_id=40196

well here. you look for yourself.

 
Old 09-14-2002, 10:13 PM   #57
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4 Mar 1881 - 19 Sep 1881 James A. Garfield Rep (b. 1831 - d. 1881)


ASSSASSINATION4U?
Actually, he died of some sort of illness, now that I remember.

What about taft?

garfield was assassinated. it is a funny story but i forget exactly oh. some mentally ill bureaucrat i think.

william henry harrison died of pneumonia he contracted from a rainy day at inauguration or something..

harding also died of pneumonia or something.

taft served a single term and didn't get a cold or get shot or anything.

 
Old 09-14-2002, 11:13 PM   #58
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The story of Garfield's assassination:

Garfield was assassinated by a man named Charles Guiteau. Both were Republicans, but Guiteau was a member of what was then known as the Stalwart faction of Republicans: the most conservative part of the party, opposing civil service reform, favoring patronage and protective tariffs.

Garfield was a Republican, but a more moderate Half-Breed in favor of some civil service reform, more leniency towards the South, etc.

Guiteau is supposed to have killed him for that reason, and for the fact that Garfield's vice president, Chester Arthur, was a Stalwart. Guiteau thought under the system of patronage the government had at the time that he would be considered a hero for putting a Stalwart in office and thus would receive a lucrative governmental position.

 
Old 09-14-2002, 11:42 PM   #59
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well aren't you just a little human textbook.

 
Old 09-15-2002, 12:12 AM   #60
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Nah, I piece-mealed it from a bunch of websites. I haven't studied history since junior year of high school ... the story rings a bell now, but I didn't remember it off the top of my head.

Or the short version: no, iz yuo.

 
 


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