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Old 07-20-2002, 08:19 PM   #91
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[b]Let's look at this scientifically. If you perform an experiment three hundred times, and every time it ends the same way, it's fair that you can come to a near certain conclusion.
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So you think communism fell each time in the same way ?

If we draw the scientific approach, think of genetic science and cloning and things like that. Imagine making clones and the first 300 attempts fail for varying difficulties (as they do in reality). Does that mean the results are conclusive ? No, it means it doesn't work yet. Pure and simple. If you have a result you want to aim for you work at it until you can no longer find a way to reach it.

Now with communism that point of failure is rarely the exhaustion of the system itself, which you yourself have admitted, so in terms of scientific experiments, no conclusion can be made.

The problem is you think it's rotten from the core, which it may be, and so the absence of evidence (in the conclusive sense) is irrelevant. But then you're taking this stance from a viewpoint of a system that you support and you beleive to be successful.

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Communism is only attractive to the lowest class of people. The people that want everything taken care of for them. People that don't want to work for themselves. Successful people aren't supporters of communism. Quit being so red.
communists don't want to work !! where did you hear that ? If we're throwing around accusations why not say capitalists are only interested in greed.

I think your perception of "communism" and the people who want it (which you think I'm one despite statements to the contrary) is seen through a very tinted lense.


And what makes you think I'm red anyway ? Are you frightened or something ? Last elections I voted for ACT. You don't know who they are but they're about as pro-buisness, anti-benefit as you can get, complete anti-liberals. They could provide me with the best system had they gained any power.

I'm just unwilling to discredit something based on no evidence.


 
Old 07-20-2002, 08:20 PM   #92
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Here are 49:
I guess I should have left that sentence out.


 
Old 07-20-2002, 08:28 PM   #93
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2. Bullshit.

Adopted in several stages since the early 1980s, the reforms imposed by Belgrade's creditors wreaked economic and political havoc leading to disintegration of the industrial sector and the piece-meal dismantling of the Yugoslav Welfare State. Despite Belgrade's political non-alignment and extensive trading relations with the US and the European Community, the Reagan administration had targeted the Yugoslav economy in a "Secret Sensitive" 1984 National Security Decision Directive (NSDD 133) entitled "United States Policy towards Yugoslavia". A censored version of this document declassified in 1990 largely conformed to a previous National Security Decision Directive (54) on Eastern Europe issued in 1982. Its objectives included "expanded efforts to promote a `quiet revolution' to overthrow Communist governments and parties"... while reintegrating the countries of Eastern Europe into the orbit of the World market.



Following the decisive victory in Croatia of the rightist Democratic Union in May 1990 under the leadership of Franjo Tudjman, the separation of Croatia received the formal assent of the German Foreign Minister Mr. Hans Dietrich Genscher who was in almost daily contact with his Croatian counterpart in Zagreb. Germany not only favoured secession, it was also "forcing the pace of international diplomacy" and pressuring its Western allies to grant recognition to Slovenia and Croatia.


- Prof Michel Chossudovsky, University of Ottawa.

Find me something to sway my opinion on the matter. You obviously know something else since you regard it as bullshit.

 
Old 07-20-2002, 08:30 PM   #94
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Let's look at this scientifically. If you perform an experiment three hundred times, and every time it ends the same way, it's fair that you can come to a near certain conclusion.

Communism is only attractive to the lowest class of people. The people that want everything taken care of for them. People that don't want to work for themselves. Successful people aren't supporters of communism. Quit being so red.
You would have made much more sense if you had worded this as: "people who place a high priority on security, and people who want to work as part of a team, as part of a nation, instead of working for themselves."

And if successful people allegedly don't support communism, then why would the mentally handicapped Republican party launch all of these investigations into finding Hollywood celebs who were Communists?

 
Old 07-20-2002, 08:34 PM   #95
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Well to be fair, it's more like performing an experiment 300 times, and having someone run into the lab each time and knock over all the test tubes.
you should wash your mouth out with soap you commy scum.

 
Old 07-20-2002, 08:56 PM   #96
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And if successful people allegedly don't support communism, then why would the mentally handicapped Republican party launch all of these investigations into finding Hollywood celebs who were Communists?
The red scare, chump. It wasn't logical, or even really planned out well. People didn't want to fall into the great evil that they thought communism was.

 
 


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