well its a good thing people want to detonate radioactive bombs on the US

aah, sweet relief

Originally posted by So very sad about me:
aah, sweet relief

ain't life gonna suck when we hit 1000.

As a side note to Bush-bashing, I don't think his promotion of religious service provision is appropriate either.

Originally posted by kypper:
ain't life gonna suck when we hit 1000.

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Originally posted by So very sad about me:
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see your previous post.

originally posted by 13:

"Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind.

"And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar." - Julius Caesar

this sounds more like bin-Laden than Bush.

but if you want to regurgitate this to justify Religious Leftist crap for the sake of undermining nationalism and patriotism at all cost, you need to do better. The ACLU would like this effort though.

Originally posted by The Omega Concern:
originally posted by 13:

this sounds more like bin-Laden than Bush.

but if you want to regurgitate this to justify Religious Leftist crap for the sake of undermining nationalism and patriotism at all cost, you need to do better. The ACLU would like this effort though.

Umm, the term Religious Leftist is oxymoronic.

Originally posted by PkPhuoko:
Now I know you're gonna get into "America blah blah blah shouldnt need nukes as they shouldnt have that much power blah blah blah" yeah of course we shouldnt need them but until the planet earth is a utopia someone has to have the bigger penis.

You got it totally backwards. World peace cannot be achieved until WE make the first move on powering down our military. There's no reason why we need to spend 5 times what Russia spends on defense. We don't even need to spend half that. It's not that difficult to figure out.

The rest of the world looks up to us, and once we start making distinct cuts in armaments (which will start once Gore wins the Presidency, again), the rest of the world will look positively on that. Until then, we're just going to continue to look like bullies to the rest of the world, and we're going to continue to get attacked.

Originally posted by Gore is the President:
You got it totally backwards. World peace cannot be achieved until WE make the first move on powering down our military. There's no reason why we need to spend 5 times what Russia spends on defense. We don't even need to spend half that. It's not that difficult to figure out.

The rest of the world looks up to us, and once we start making distinct cuts in armaments (which will start once Gore wins the Presidency, again), the rest of the world will look positively on that. Until then, we're just going to continue to look like bullies to the rest of the world, and we're going to continue to get attacked.

I'm of two minds. I definately don't think that the nuclear list should be as high as it is http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/frown.gif

Religious Left aptly describes the enemies within our nation. Moreover, there's a well-defined Religious Right in this country...ying-yang, up-down, right-left. simple logic for the absolutist among us. Now, if you're a Nihilist, I can't help you. But a career in Sociology would be my advice.

Originally posted by The Omega Concern:
Religious Left aptly describes the enemies within our nation. Moreover, there's a well-defined Religious Right in this country...ying-yang, up-down, right-left. simple logic for the absolutist among us. Now, if you're a Nihilist, I can't help you. But a career in Sociology would be my advice.

I'm an atheist who witnessed bush side with the religious groups and governmentally funded them. Fuck you.

i think the Bilderberg's are behind it all!!!

Originally posted by *theory*:
i think the Bilderberg's are behind it all!!!

they're behind a fair bit, actually.

I wish I had an opinion on terrorism so that I could up my post count here

Originally posted by strange_one:
I wish I had an opinion on terrorism so that I could up my post count here

I think "up my post count" is all you did with that post.

Originally posted by kypper:
Canada blows.
Trust me on this.

yeah, but at least no one wishes to bomb them with radiation... you have to admit that i have a point.

welcome to page ten by the way.

jesus.

Somebody archive this baby.

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Originally posted by melancholia:
yeah, but at least no one wishes to bomb them with radiation... you have to admit that i have a point.

actually, we caught (this is confidential, I just know someone who has contacts in the CDN gov) people coming into Canada with a disassembled suitcase nuke. From USA.

Originally posted by BlueStar:
Somebody archive this baby.

you deserve a medal for what you did today..or large cash sums, or somehting to that extent

Originally posted by bittertrance:
large cash sums

Yes, cash is good.

Originally posted by bittertrance:
or somehting to that extent

Hmmmm...some sexual pleasure http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/tongue.gif




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Originally posted by PkPhuoko:
new zealand has little power in the worlds rotation. They have nothing to lose nor gain as far as their position in the world so of course they'll be anti nuke. They have no means to carry out successfull nuclear development and progress in a military stance and in the same light they have nothing to protect requiring nuclear power.

Now I know you're gonna get into "America blah blah blah shouldnt need nukes as they shouldnt have that much power blah blah blah" yeah of course we shouldnt need them but until the planet earth is a utopia someone has to have the bigger penis.

Not my personal opinion on the way life should be.... but a simple reality that can't just be switched off.

The problem with the US is not that you have and we have not. Or that we're weary of your power in a nuclear sense. It's a simple fact that through the 50s 60s and 70s NZ developed a strong environmental backbone. Personally I think the Nuclear issue is over blown and we should accept it but the majority (90% in the 80s) of people want NZ nuclear free. For better or for worse that is what the people here want NZ to be and the governments have a democratic responsibility to recognise that. The second biggest industry in NZ is tourism and most of that is Euopean, American and Asian people coming to NZ under the impression that this is a "clean, green place". Far from the truth but more so than most places and the nuclear free stance is more benfit to NZ in terms of $$$$ than it is a detriment in terms of lost opportunity.

The detriment to NZ is that we get the cold shoulder from the US in terms of military operations. Different goverments have different attitudes towards arms expenditure so we're always changing in that respect but NZ will probably never tollerate nuclear power.

I think in general people here don't take kindly to being bullied by US military pretentions. When we have trouble funding health and educations why should we be bullied into a billion dollar deal for f-16s that we don't really need. It goes back to the Rainbow Warrior bombing (terrorism if you like). Initiated by the French, known by US and British forces but ignored. It pretty much told NZ that having a "green" conscience is a reason to be bullied.

Originally posted by BlueStar:
Hmmmm...some sexual pleasure http://www.netphoria.org/wwwboard/tongue.gif

I'll send you a picture of Mayfuck's wang.

Originally posted by kypper:
actually, we caught (this is confidential, I just know someone who has contacts in the CDN gov) people coming into Canada with a disassembled suitcase nuke. From USA.

actually, i heard (from a real secret agent) that you're full of shit

Originally posted by Delta:
actually, i heard (from a real secret agent) that you're full of shit

I know two of em.
Big deal.

Originally posted by kypper:
I'll send you a picture of Mayfuck's wang.

I look forward to it.



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Originally posted by PkPhuoko:
america is a "democracy" (loose term yes i know) and of that you imply motives. You imply this and imply that and blah blah.

can't really play on words anymore slunk.... the world figured that game out with Clinton.

If President Bush isn't a representative of each and every American then the word "America" isn't either.

Originally posted by slunky_munky:

The problem with the US is not that you have and we have not. Or that we're weary of your power in a nuclear sense. It's a simple fact that through the 50s 60s and 70s NZ developed a strong environmental backbone. Personally I think the Nuclear issue is over blown and we should accept it but the majority (90% in the 80s) of people want NZ nuclear free. For better or for worse that is what the people here want NZ to be and the governments have a democratic responsibility to recognise that. The second biggest industry in NZ is tourism and most of that is Euopean, American and Asian people coming to NZ under the impression that this is a "clean, green place". Far from the truth but more so than most places and the nuclear free stance is more benfit to NZ in terms of $$$$ than it is a detriment in terms of lost opportunity.

The detriment to NZ is that we get the cold shoulder from the US in terms of military operations. Different goverments have different attitudes towards arms expenditure so we're always changing in that respect but NZ will probably never tollerate nuclear power.

I think in general people here don't take kindly to being bullied by US military pretentions. When we have trouble funding health and educations why should we be bullied into a billion dollar deal for f-16s that we don't really need. It goes back to the Rainbow Warrior bombing (terrorism if you like). Initiated by the French, known by US and British forces but ignored. It pretty much told NZ that having a "green" conscience is a reason to be bullied.

Well, New Zealand is peanuts in terms of anything but water territory, so USA and Britain don't care.

I respect the green conscience though.

the main mantra i hear from the extreme left is that the Taliban and the Bushy's were in cahoots with each other. Maybe not buddy-buddy type stuff but a mutually beneficial relationship that would allow an Oil pipeline through Afgahnistan.

disgusting if true. it appears so. the oil thing is tied to all this but that's really a seperate argument that includes alternate energy sources and global warming, etc.

But none of that means 9/11 is a conspiracy for malicious Gestappo-like tactics from Bush. Still doesnt. The attack on the WTC in '93 is prime evidence the muslim extremist sole intent is a Jihad against the infidels.

But the religious/extreme left in this country like to deal in illusions and never quite make it to the maturity of good philosophy.

Case in point: Michael Moore.

I mean, where would we be today (and how many may have lived) had the FBI not siphoned off the resources of 200 full-time FBI agents who spent the better part of the late '90s on the Clinton-Lewinsky case -- investigating the national security crisis of how to get a stain out of a blue dress! What if they had been doing their REAL job

Once again, as the Religious Left are want to do, they continue to blame everybody but Clinton for the Clinton-Lewinsky scandel. My hunch is that's because they are aware of their condition of Victimology as being largely superficial and thus have to create Bush/Republicans/Religious Right to excuse their failures in proper perception. Considering thier teachers are Stalin, Lenin, Engels, Marx, no wonder.

Moore goes on:

-- like investigating dip-shit flight training schools in Florida and Texas and SAVING PEOPLE'S LIVES?! What a waste of time!

the FBI, like all law enforcement agencies in this country the last 20 years or so, have had to operate under the counter-intuitive notion of racial profiling. A dogma used by the professional Victomologist teaching the soft sciences in colleges and universities all over America.

These people use the Constitution of the United States to undermine partriotism and nationalsim the way Al-Queda and the Taliban use Religion to justify their genocide against the infidels. All they really care about is anarchy and not much else.

There's your Religious Left.